Next week’s Pats game - interesting

[dave mcbride]

The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.

Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?

 

[FireChans]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.

Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?

 

Why would Daboll let himself get fired so the Giants get a better pick?

 

Selfish? lol.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I feel like this is pretty immaterial as the Giants need a QB and the Pats don't.

[Ya Digg?]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.

Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?

 

This is why you would be never allowed anywhere near an NFL field. At no point does a coach and players ever want to lose a game

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.

Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?

 

 

In fairness I put it partly on Mara who allegedly told him 2 weeks ago he was coaching for his job. That's a stupid thing to tell your coach. Lie. Tell him he's safe and you are going to let him choose his QB. Don't give him a legit reason to screw you.

 

Pats don't need a QB. But getting the one would land them a windfall of picks even for one of these two guys because the Giants and Raiders especially will want one. Jets might too. They should tank next week.

[DCofNC]

2 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

I feel like this is pretty immaterial as the Giants need a QB and the Pats don't.

True, BUT just the fact they don’t own the #1 pick means somebody can jump you.  Look at what happened when Carolina went up over the Texans most recently.  It didn’t work, but it gave them the pick of the 1st QB off the board.

[Doc Brown]

Thanks Colts.

[dave mcbride]

5 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

I feel like this is pretty immaterial as the Giants need a QB and the Pats don't.

Bad teams without a QB (and there are plenty) will ALWAYS be willing to trade up for the number one pick. 

[NoSaint]

6 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

I feel like this is pretty immaterial as the Giants need a QB and the Pats don't.

don’t think the pats trade that pick for a boatload to someone that does? Maybe even the giants?

[BarleyNY]

1 minute ago, DCofNC said:

True, BUT just the fact they don’t own the #1 pick means somebody can jump you.  Look at what happened when Carolina went up over the Texans most recently.  It didn’t work, but it gave them the pick of the 1st QB off the board.

Was just thinking that NE will get a nice haul for that #1 overall pick if they hang on to it. The next four teams picking will likely be ones that need a QB. 

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

In fairness I put it partly on Mara who allegedly told him 2 weeks ago he was coaching for his job. That's a stupid thing to tell your coach. Lie. Tell him he's safe and you are going to let him choose his QB. Don't give him a legit reason to screw you.

 

Pats don't need a QB. But getting the one would land them a windfall of picks even for one of these two guys because the Giants and Raiders especially will want one. Jets might too. They should tank next week.

He could also “not lie.”

 

Mara could tell Daboll he’s safe, don’t win more games and screw us don’t worry, and MEAN IT. 

[Sojourner]

LET THEM WIN LOL

[djp14150]

Bills let them win they might move out of thst spot.

[Process]

I think our backups might beat them, which would be unfortunate. Don't let last week fool you, that's a really, really bad football team. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

13 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.

Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?

 

 

Yes he should have went out and coached to lose!  Brilliant idea!!

[Chaos]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

He could also “not lie.”

 

Mara could tell Daboll he’s safe, don’t win more games and screw us don’t worry, and MEAN IT. 

Giants would be sanctioned significantly if something like that came to light. 

[UKBillFan]

3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Yes he should have went out and coached to lose!  Brilliant idea!!

 

Feels like that's what he's been doing across the rest of the year.

[benderbender]

The highlight of preseason Hard Knocks was Joe Schoen's daughter telling him to draft JJ McCarthy and his son telling him to trade for Jayden Daniels. 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Giants would be sanctioned significantly if something like that came to light. 

you don’t think tanking has been happening for years?

 

furthermore, do you think the NFL has any interest in proving it?

All you do is tell the coach, “don’t worry so much about wins and losses, this is a development year, play the young kids, your job is safe,” and the message will be received. 

Edited December 29, 2024 by FireChans

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

True but to create a post stating the coach should be fired for winning the game is rather stupid regardless of the ramifications.  Even if the coach is trying to lose, the players want to win as some (like the coach) have no idea if they will even be playing in the NFL ever again.