McDermott cost us #1 seed

[Beck Water]

6 hours ago, 5ths the charm said:

Lmao no bye possible

 

Think he’s referring to a pseudo-bye where we rest many of the starters ‘cuz the win or loss has no seeding impact.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Anyone have the list handy of all the players who are currently on the roster that were on the roster when McD and Allen made playoffs in 2019? 

[machine gun kelly]

3 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Anyone have the list handy of all the players who are currently on the roster that were on the roster when McD and Allen made playoffs in 2019? 

 

EU, I’m not sure how far back it goes, but Spotrac has some records of past rosters.  There are probably other sites to find it.

[Roundybout]

15 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Anyone have the list handy of all the players who are currently on the roster that were on the roster when McD and Allen made playoffs in 2019? 

Jordan Phillips 

 

Reid Ferguson 

 

Micah Hyde kind of counts 

 

Knox? 

 

Matt Milano 

 

Taron Johnson 

 

Think that’s it 

 

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Jordan Phillips 

 

Reid Ferguson 

 

Micah Hyde kind of counts 

 

Knox? 

 

Matt Milano 

 

Taron Johnson 

 

Think that’s it 

 

 

Dawkins too

 

16 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

 

EU, I’m not sure how far back it goes, but Spotrac has some records of past rosters.  There are probably other sites to find it.

My point here is that McD has entirely overturned this roster and been a perennial contender and ppl are still not happy (plus he did it with Tyrod and the inherited roster, too!)

Edited December 30, 2024 by EmotionallyUnstable

[BCAS Baritone]

23 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

No, best finish was 14-2 and 13-3 with Jags and Titans unless someone prior to NFL merger. 

I think there was a season where 2 NFL West teams both finished 11-1-2.  It was before the merger

[T master]

22 hours ago, T.E. said:

He has the most talented football player ever on his team and they still chronically underachieve. I know that some Bills fans are so traumatized by the drought that they're thrilled to just win a wild card game every year, but some of us would actually like to see them win the Super Bowl at some point, and we aren't thrilled with the career of the best player in franchise history being wasted.

 

So then you would rather be 🤔 like the Bills use to be changing coaches every 3 years and more than likely ending up like the Rex Ryan Bills because the new coach comes in and changes things to fit them and not go to the play offs at all to have a chance at a SB .

 

Even with Josh it's a 50/50 shot bringing in a new coach, and if your so hell bent on firing McD after all of the division championships and winning seasons EVERY YEAR,  then in your "EXPERT NFL opinion" who would you bring in that you could guarantee that your new choice as coach would bring a Lombardi to Buffalo ?

 

Every commentator, coach, and other TRUE NFL people say McD should be applauded for what he has done since he and Beane have come to Buffalo especially this year with all of the injuries except YOU the fan & other here .

 

Your like the high maintenance wife that you can't make happy no matter what you give her it's NEVER good enough ... 

 

Besides how good were the 90's teams ? And how many trophies do the Bills have in the case . Like Tasker always says no matter how good you are you have to play better on that day than the team your playing against and if you don't you won't win ...

Edited December 30, 2024 by T master

[T.E.]

5 minutes ago, T master said:

 

So then you would rather be 🤔 like the Bills use to be changing coaches every 3 years and more than likely ending up like the Rex Ryan Bills because the new coach comes in and changes things to fit them and not go to the play offs at all to have a chance at a SB .

 

Even with Josh it's a 50/50 shot bringing in a new coach, and if your so hell bent on firing McD after all of the division championships and winning seasons EVERY YEAR,  then in your "EXPERT NFL opinion" who would you bring in that you could guarantee that your new choice as coach would bring a Lombardi to Buffalo ?

 

Every commentator, coach, and other TRUE NFL people say McD should be applauded for what he has done since he and Beane have come to Buffalo especially this year with all of the injuries except YOU the fan & other here .

 

Your like the high maintenance wife that you can't make happy no matter what you give her it's NEVER good enough ... 

 

Besides how good were the 90's teams ? And how many trophies do the Bills have in the case . Like Tasker always says no matter how good you are you have to play better on that day than the team your playing against and if you don't you won't win ...

A lot of words to say that you're content to just win the AFC East and make the playoffs. Again, some people understand that the goal is to win the Super Bowl. If you have a defensive-minded coach whose defense is a major weak point, what does he actually bring to the table? Now combine that with a history of bad game and clock management. Taking a team with Josh Allen to the playoffs honestly isn't a huge accomplishment.

[T master]

6 minutes ago, T.E. said:

A lot of words to say that you're content to just win the AFC East and make the playoffs. Again, some people understand that the goal is to win the Super Bowl. If you have a defensive-minded coach whose defense is a major weak point, what does he actually bring to the table? Now combine that with a history of bad game and clock management. Taking a team with Josh Allen to the playoffs honestly isn't a huge accomplishment.

 

ALL OF US Including me would love to see the Bills win a SB I may have been a fan longer than you have been alive depending on your age ?

 

That being said when you are successful despite your short comings (In business) you build from year to year on your successes you don't change the entire course just because !!

 

Then you all seem to forget in the grand scheme of things McD is still relatively a young HC and seems to learn from his previous mistakes and takes it into the following season .

 

So you would rather have him take everything he's learned while HERE to another team and quite possibly win a SB for that team than continue here with a much better chance of him winning one here ?

 

Now if Beane & the Pegs think he's not cutting it then i would go with that because that is their profession but you are JUST a FAN nothing more than a arm chair Coach or QB so for them or me to put my faith in you in any way and pull the plug on a coach that wins every single year . 

 

I have to say sorry but I'M OUT !! I'll take my chances with a winner rather than bet on someone else ...

[skibum]

Yeah, and the Bills also won a few close games that maybe if the opposing coach hadn't screwed up, they would have lost.

 

It's a moot point; there is no way they were going 16-1. And they didn't, so Moving on. 

[Blackbeard]

12 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Dawkins too

 

My point here is that McD has entirely overturned this roster and been a perennial contender and ppl are still not happy (plus he did it with Tyrod and the inherited roster, too!)

No matter what you say or whatever McD stat you post, some fans will want him gone until he wins a Super Bowl yearly.

 

We have a FANTASTIC coach, and most either don't see it, or don't appreciate it.  All they can see is a handful of hindsight playcalls, in the heat of the moment.  

 

Most need 100% perfection out of our head coach.  Super bowls yearly.

[Da webster guy]

On 12/28/2024 at 6:13 PM, Jamone said:

The two massive coaching blunders this year cost us the 1 seed. Going for 3 straight passes and leaving enough time for Houston to get the ball back and kick a game winning field goal and choosing to accept the penalty on Los Angeles instead of 4th and 7 which would have no doubt resulted in a field goal. Just terrible. The gauntlet of how the playoffs look like they are going to play out is tragic. If we see the ravens,  which is more than likely, I unfortunately see us getting bounced in the divisional round. Hopefully chargers or Pittsburgh can beat them in the wildcard…

McD was miked up and told Brady AFTER the 1st play on that last Houston drive "we oughta be going for the 1st down here"    So at least he said something, albeit a play too late.  There was still time for Brady to run it (they had a FIVE man box, playing prevent and Cook was on the field).  I agree it was bad coaching strategy but Brady ignored Sean and tried two more pass plays.   That certainly cost us OT and maybe the game, in which case Denver Chiefs would be a helluva game to watch this weekend.   

If you watch the OC's during the game they're frantically worried about getting the next play in on time and the right personnel on the field, its hard to work macro game strategy into it.   Brady isn't good at it, like most OC's I think they rely on the HC to say things like Sean said.

[Simon]

On 12/29/2024 at 10:24 AM, DrBob806 said:

He got rid of Todd Haley because he wasn't a "yes man" to Tomlin, and the offense has been iffy at best. 

 

Tell your brother in law that he got rid of Todd Haley because he's a drunk and a sociopathic sack of crap who only ended up in the NFL as a result of nepotism.

The same Todd Haley who lasted less than a year in the USFL, is currently out of work and will never coach in the NFL again.

[Bob in STL]

On 12/28/2024 at 5:13 PM, Jamone said:

The two massive coaching blunders this year cost us the 1 seed. Going for 3 straight passes and leaving enough time for Houston to get the ball back and kick a game winning field goal and choosing to accept the penalty on Los Angeles instead of 4th and 7 which would have no doubt resulted in a field goal. Just terrible. The gauntlet of how the playoffs look like they are going to play out is tragic. If we see the ravens,  which is more than likely, I unfortunately see us getting bounced in the divisional round. Hopefully chargers or Pittsburgh can beat them in the wildcard…

[Utah John]

On 12/28/2024 at 5:13 PM, Jamone said:

The two massive coaching blunders this year cost us the 1 seed. Going for 3 straight passes and leaving enough time for Houston to get the ball back and kick a game winning field goal and choosing to accept the penalty on Los Angeles instead of 4th and 7 which would have no doubt resulted in a field goal. Just terrible. The gauntlet of how the playoffs look like they are going to play out is tragic. If we see the ravens,  which is more than likely, I unfortunately see us getting bounced in the divisional round. Hopefully chargers or Pittsburgh can beat them in the wildcard…

McD cost us two games and had nothing whatsoever to do with the thirteen wins.  OK, sure.  Or, maybe McD and Babich patched up a defense gutted by departures and turned it into a credible, if flawed, unit. Maybe McD's organizational skills and leadership provided the support the team needed while it spent September figuring out what it was good at.  

 

Even supposing the Bills did get the 1 seed, they would still need to beat two good teams to get to the SB.  As it is, they'll play whoever falls to the 7 seed, and then have to face -- guess what, two good teams to get to the SB.

[Utah John]

2 hours ago, T.E. said:

A lot of words to say that you're content to just win the AFC East and make the playoffs. Again, some people understand that the goal is to win the Super Bowl. If you have a defensive-minded coach whose defense is a major weak point, what does he actually bring to the table? Now combine that with a history of bad game and clock management. Taking a team with Josh Allen to the playoffs honestly isn't a huge accomplishment.

I think saying McD is "a defensive-minded coach whose defense is a major weak point" is putting the most negative spin possible on what the Bills have done so far this year.  It's accurate to say he's a defensive-minded coach, but what he did was take a shell of a formerly good defense that had been shredded by age, FA, and injuries, and rebuild it with new players into a credible if flawed unit.  What does he bring to the table?  Well, obviously, 13 wins so far and a defense that finds ways to win most of the time, while the offense almost always wins.  It's an impressive achievement and a tribute to his skill.

[Utah John]

22 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Houston game was Allen’s fault

Yep.  This was the turning point in the season.  Allen played like crap, completing 9 or 30 passes (THIRTY PERCENT) when short passes were wide open all game.  I have no idea what he thought he was doing.  After that, dangerous Josh turned into smart and dangerous Josh, the player I hope we'll see for a decade to come.

[Utah John]

Last year the Bills got the 2 seed by beating Miami in the last game of the season.  If they had lost that game, they would have missed the playoffs entirely.  (They would have been 10-7 instead of 11-6, with Miami winning the division and three other teams beating out the Bills for the WC slots.)  That was with last year's defense that was very strong, losing to KC in the playoffs only after massive injuries on the defense.

 

This year the Bills, ho-hum, got the 2 seed again.  How boring, how lack of progress, we're doomed, fire McD, etc.  Well, no.  They won the division with five games to go and kept on rolling.  They challenged the Chiefs for the 1 seed all season long, at least after mid-October, and it was only through a series of miracles (for KC) that the Chiefs lost only the one game.  Even with the patched-up defense that has trouble stopping the run, they are a much better team this year.

[JGMcD2]

4 minutes ago, Utah John said:

Last year the Bills got the 2 seed by beating Miami in the last game of the season.  If they had lost that game, they would have missed the playoffs entirely.  (They would have been 10-7 instead of 11-6, with Miami winning the division and three other teams beating out the Bills for the WC slots.)  That was with last year's defense that was very strong, losing to KC in the playoffs only after massive injuries on the defense.

 

This year the Bills, ho-hum, got the 2 seed again.  How boring, how lack of progress, we're doomed, fire McD, etc.  Well, no.  They won the division with five games to go and kept on rolling.  They challenged the Chiefs for the 1 seed all season long, at least after mid-October, and it was only through a series of miracles (for KC) that the Chiefs lost only the one game.  Even with the patched-up defense that has trouble stopping the run, they are a much better team this year.

Actually, things went in their favor earlier that day that clinched Buffalo a playoff spot (Jaguars lost to Titans). If Buffalo had lost, they would have been the 7 Seed going to Miami in the Wild Card Round. 

[Danger Mouse]

What McD doesn’t get enough credit for is the culture

 

its an outstanding culture. Allen has been able to flourish. The egos are all working together. New players feel at home immediately

 

That is surely the hardest thing for a HC to create. 
 

I think he’s an incredible coach and I basically want to have his little Christian, wrestling loving babies