McDermott cost us #1 seed

[T.E.]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

That team would have won with Dungy. They won despite Gruden, not because of him (and the Raiders were complete idiots for not changing anything prior to playing their former coach).

 

You are more likely to get Rex Ryan type results imo, which is to say very disappointing. We can do MUCH WORSE than McD, but everybody thinks replacing him will be a piece of cake. You want to waste some of Josh’s prime? Get a new coach and new schemes, then go looking for players who are suited for those schemes, then cross your fingers and hold your breath hoping the next guy works out better than what we already have in the first few years. 

 

 

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This entire post is complete conjecture. The Bucs never won it all with Dungy and DID win with Gruden.

 

Rex Ryan type results? The same Rex Ryan who took a team QB'd by Mark Sanchez to two AFC Championship games? McDermott won't ever do that with Josh Freakin' Allen!

[Augie]

Just now, T.E. said:

This entire post is complete conjecture. The Bucs never won it all with Dungy and DID win with Gruden.

 

Rex Ryan type results? The same Rex Ryan who took a team QB'd by Mark Sanchez to two AFC Championship games? McDermott won't ever do that with Josh Freakin' Allen!

 

Sure, let’s praise Rex Ryan. I’ve seen that mess, and it tells me all I need to know. Do you think Rex Ryan is a better coach than McD because he made the AFCCG? Please answer me that. 

 

 

[BillsMontreal]

35 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Ah yes, the old conservative coach trope. Even though he goes for it on 4th down more than almost any coach, the team averages over 30 points a game, etc. Do you actually watch the games?

I watched Bills games since the end of the 80's and he is a conservative HC. No doupt about it and it is so obvious...Your answer make me feel like i am in a cult.

 

Then, i have absolutely nothing against him and i'm not in the board of Fire Mcdermott. Not at this point with what he accomplished. 

I think he is the first one to want to improve and yes, i saw some gutsy agressive calls this year. More than the others years. And, because he is conservative, he needed more guts than some coachs to make those calls. He did it and i credit him.

 

But, let be serious: we can be a huge fan and being outside of a cult and in the real world: As a fan, i hope we gonna win it all with Mcdermott.but this team under Allen could win a lot of games also with a lot of NFL coachs.

 

 

At the end, we will win or lose by our offense. Going on a 4 and short is a no brainer with our offense but i give credits to Mcdermott: He learns to make that calls and, hopefully, he could let our offense win the game even in a big game.

 

I hope it's the way we will play in playoffs and our defense will help when this offense will need it.

[Thurman#1]

17 hours ago, Jamone said:

The two massive coaching blunders this year cost us the 1 seed. Going for 3 straight passes and leaving enough time for Houston to get the ball back and kick a game winning field goal and choosing to accept the penalty on Los Angeles instead of 4th and 7 which would have no doubt resulted in a field goal. Just terrible. The gauntlet of how the playoffs look like they are going to play out is tragic. If we see the ravens,  which is more than likely, I unfortunately see us getting bounced in the divisional round. Hopefully chargers or Pittsburgh can beat them in the wildcard…

 

 

First, those might have been blunders. Or might not. Hard to know what would have happened if they'd done something different.

 

But let's say they are blunders, 100%, for argument's sake. 

 

Did he have some good calls in the rest of the game? Was everyone else on our team perfect?

 

You can pick two or three plays out of a loss and blame it on virtually anyone. There'll be drops, there'll be plays Allen missed his guy or went to the wrong guy, missed tackles, a fumble ... it goes on and on.

 

Blaming it all on McDermott with that little causation just speaks to not liking the guy.

 

There are legit arguments against some of his decisions. But there are also terrific calls, and folks on your side don't mention those.

 

 

Oh, and I think we've got a really good shot at beating the Ravens. Particularly at home. I'm with you in that I'd rather see any team other than KC and then the Ravens. But we can beat any team this year. Also we could lose, particularly to KC, the Ravens and maybe the Bengals if Burrow is on a heater.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Thurman#1

[without a drought]

Good stuff.

 

 

 

 

Wait, nevermind... wrong thread.

[Thurman#1]

6 minutes ago, BillsMontreal said:

I watched Bills games since the end of the 80's and he is a conservative HC. No doupt about it and it is so obvious...Your answer make me feel like i am in a cult.

 

Then, i have absolutely nothing against him and i'm not in the board of Fire Mcdermott. Not at this point with what he accomplished. 

I think he is the first one to want to improve and yes, i saw some gutsy agressive calls this year. More than the others years. And, because he is conservative, he needed more guts than some coachs to make those calls. He did it and i credit him.

 

But, let be serious: we can be a huge fan and being outside of a cult and in the real world: As a fan, i hope we gonna win it all with Mcdermott.but this team under Allen could win a lot of games also with a lot of NFL coachs.

 

 

At the end, we will win or lose by our offense. Going on a 4 and short is a no brainer with our offense but i give credits to Mcdermott: He learns to make that calls and, hopefully, he could let our offense win the game even in a big game.

 

I hope it's the way we will play in playoffs and our defense will help when this offense will need it.

 

 

He really isn't conservative, dude. The stats speak to that, he's statistically top ten most aggressive at going for 1sts on 4th down for instance.

 

He certainly was conservative his first couple of years. But he's changed.

 

 

Edited December 29, 2024 by Thurman#1

[BillsMontreal]

2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

He really isn't conservative, dude. The stats speak to that, he's statistically top ten most aggressive at going for 1sts on 4th down for instance.

 

He certainly was conservative his first couple of years. But he's changed.

Hope you're right, man. I  hope he's changes at this point. 

 

We'll have our answers in a couple of weeks. Be sure i will be the first one to say i were wrong. Have fun.

[gonzo1105]

I haven't read through 6 pages but come on. The Chiefs are 14-1. Their only loss was to the Bills. We were smoked by Baltimore so you can't even say that one but I guess the gist is we would have beaten the Rams/Texans if it wasn't for McDermott which I find ridiculous.

2 minutes ago, BillsMontreal said:

Hope you're right, man. I  hope he's changes at this point. 

 

We'll have our answers in a couple of weeks. Be sure i will be the first one to say i were wrong. Have fun.

 

I would like to see how aggressive he is in the playoffs vs the regular season. He is very aggressive in the regular season but I always feels like he pulls back in the playoffs(Hamlin Fake Punt notwithstanding)

[Chaos]

McDermott has put himself in a postition to have a chance to win it all this year.   If he succeeds his tenure in Buffalo will probably be the lenght of George Halas.

If he does not succeed, I will probably asking people if Dan Reeves was a good coach, and the logical answer is yes.  And the followup question:  was Dan Reeves as good as Michael Shannahan, and the logical answer is no.  If we don't get to the Super Bowl this year, is it time to look for our Michael Shannahan, or do simply not take such a chance. 

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

The rest of the NFL cost the Bills the one seed. It seems the Bills are the only team that can consistently beat the Chiefs these last four seasons (4wins 2 losses). We all thought the Rams loss cost the Bills the one seed. Turns out that game didn't even matter in the chase for the one seed because the rest of the league is so bad against the Chiefs. 

The rest of the NFL didn’t lose to Houston and Baltimore. Bills did. That’s what cost them the #1 seed. Every year it’s a loss here and there that leaves them short of the #1 seed.

[Ya Digg?]

3 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

The rest of the NFL didn’t lose to Houston and Baltimore. Bills did. That’s what cost them the #1 seed. Every year it’s a loss here and there that leaves them short of the #1 seed.

Just think about what you’re saying here. I would’ve taken LITERALLY the first ever 16-1 regular season in the history of the NFL to get the 1 seed and there are 6 pages of people crushing McDermott for it. People need to get a grip 

[ProcessTruster]

18 hours ago, Jamone said:

The two massive coaching blunders this year cost us the 1 seed. Going for 3 straight passes and leaving enough time for Houston to get the ball back and kick a game winning field goal and choosing to accept the penalty on Los Angeles instead of 4th and 7 which would have no doubt resulted in a field goal. Just terrible. The gauntlet of how the playoffs look like they are going to play out is tragic. If we see the ravens,  which is more than likely, I unfortunately see us getting bounced in the divisional round. Hopefully chargers or Pittsburgh can beat them in the wildcard…

oh shut up

[90sBills]

10 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Just think about what you’re saying here. I would’ve taken LITERALLY the first ever 16-1 regular season in the history of the NFL to get the 1 seed and there are 6 pages of people crushing McDermott for it. People need to get a grip 

I’m not blaming McD. My response was directed at blaming the rest of the NFL for Bills not getting the #1 seed.

 

McD has done a great job this season to get the team in position. As the not getting the #1 seed…sometimes you gotta tip your cap to the other guy.

[Bad Things]

18 hours ago, Jamone said:

The two massive coaching blunders this year cost us the 1 seed. Going for 3 straight passes and leaving enough time for Houston to get the ball back and kick a game winning field goal and choosing to accept the penalty on Los Angeles instead of 4th and 7 which would have no doubt resulted in a field goal. Just terrible. The gauntlet of how the playoffs look like they are going to play out is tragic. If we see the ravens,  which is more than likely, I unfortunately see us getting bounced in the divisional round. Hopefully chargers or Pittsburgh can beat them in the wildcard…

You sound like a really positive person. Good for you!

[T.E.]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

Sure, let’s praise Rex Ryan. I’ve seen that mess, and it tells me all I need to know. Do you think Rex Ryan is a better coach than McD because he made the AFCCG? Please answer me that. 

 

 

Rex Ryan went .500 with Tyrod Taylor at QB and Sean McDermott has had multiple years with the best QB in the league where we essentially needed to win out the entire last month to make the playoffs. Again, he was more successful with Mark Sanchez than McDermott has been with Josh Allen.

[dma0034]

33 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

The rest of the NFL didn’t lose to Houston and Baltimore. Bills did. That’s what cost them the #1 seed. Every year it’s a loss here and there that leaves them short of the #1 seed.

 

 

I mean those are two division winners. Bills got the Ravens when they were at their most desperate. The Bills got the Texans when they were at 100%. Allen had his worst two game stint in a long long time.

 

 

Now: you can probably convince everyone that McDermott didn't do enough with dark magic. I mean Andy Reid is out there making the Raiders snap balls early, Broncos to not block on FGs, Falcons to not run up the middle, Likely having big feet. If McDermott fully embraced dark magic then the Texans kicker misses that FG and Nacua and Kupp drop some of those passes

[Billzgobowlin]

How dare McDermott only get us to 12-3.

[90sBills]

6 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

 

 

I mean those are two division winners. Bills got the Ravens when they were at their most desperate. The Bills got the Texans when they were at 100%. Allen had his worst two game stint in a long long time.

 

 

Now: you can probably convince everyone that McDermott didn't do enough with dark magic. I mean Andy Reid is out there making the Raiders snap balls early, Broncos to not block on FGs, Falcons to not run up the middle, Likely having big feet. If McDermott fully embraced dark magic then the Texans kicker misses that FG and Nacua and Kupp drop some of those passes

Yeah wins are not given in the NFL. The other teams are out there to win too. I’m not blaming McD. Getting to the #2 seed again is a great accomplishment. My response was directed at blaming others for not getting the #1 seed. Sometimes the other teams do a better job than you and it’s ok. Seedings don’t determined championships. 

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, T.E. said:

Rex Ryan went .500 with Tyrod Taylor at QB and Sean McDermott has had multiple years with the best QB in the league where we essentially needed to win out the entire last month to make the playoffs. Again, he was more successful with Mark Sanchez than McDermott has been with Josh Allen.

 

Who do you think is a better HC, Rex Ryan or McD?  A simple question calls for a simple answer. 

 

Somehow this has gotten personal with how a lot of people feel about McD. I don’t understand that. He’s certainly not perfect (who is?), but he gets zero credit for what he’s accomplished with some people. They often seem angry with him. It’s not ALL Josh.  Replacing McD would be a serious gamble and I don’t see it as worth the risk. That’s just my opinion, but I think most of the rational world agrees with me. How long would he be unemployed? Only as long as it took him to weigh the options and pick the best situation because he’d be a top candidate for any opening.

 

Have a nice game day.  

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

51 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

The rest of the NFL didn’t lose to Houston and Baltimore. Bills did. That’s what cost them the #1 seed. Every year it’s a loss here and there that leaves them short of the #1 seed.

???

 

Plenty of teams lost to Baltimore and Houston. Literally nobody else could beat the Chiefs. And only one other team beat the Lions.