Informative article on Burrow’s discontent with the Bengals org

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

As much as I respect what Burrow can do with the right support, I never feared the Bengals long term. Mike Brown would find a way to make their window brief. 

Burrow is strange for a great QB. Usually a top QB elevates the talent around him, but Burrow really needs two #1 WRs to be successful. For example, the Bengals are 6-4 with Higgins but 1-4 without him. The only game that the Bengals won without Higgins was against the Raiders. Chase has played every game. So, just having the best WR in the league is not enough for him. He needs #1 and another top 10 guy to do anything. 

[dma0034]

I wonder how long before Burrow requests a trade. If I'm Chase I don't sign. I play out the inevitable franchise tag and get out of there. 

 

Both are having possible career best years and they aren't going to make the playoffs and have no realistic chance at winning a Superbowl with Lamar, Allen and Mahomes having better teams every year.

[K-9]

7 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Yes and no. They put a bubble over a turf field. It was a pure Ralph Wilson move. 

The Bills were among the first teams in the league to have an indoor practice facility when it opened in the mid 90s. A steel supported structure 12 stories high with a fixed, steel girded roof. Nowhere near a bubble. 

[Augie]

6 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Burrow is strange for a great QB. Usually a top QB elevates the talent around him, but Burrow really needs two #1 WRs to be successful. For example, the Bengals are 6-4 with Higgins but 1-4 without him. The only game that the Bengals won without Higgins was against the Raiders. Chase has played every game. So, just having the best WR in the league is not enough for him. He needs #1 and another top 10 guy to do anything. 

 

….and some guys up front to block for him. Josh being the monster he is covers up a lot of faults. 

[Low Positive]

Just now, K-9 said:

The Bills were among the first teams in the league to have an indoor practice facility when it opened in the mid 90s. A steel supported structure 12 stories high with a fixed, steel girded roof. Nowhere near a bubble. 

I stand corrected on that, but Mike Brown is still alone in his cheapness.

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

….and some guys up front to block for him. Josh being the monster he is covers up a lot of faults. 

Great QBs are supposed to do that. Mahomes won a SB with JuJu and MVS as his two best receivers. Brady made Edelman into a star. Joe Burrow can't win a game without both of his all-pro receivers. 

[The Jokeman]

3 hours ago, BearNorth said:

Reading this, why didn't Burrow pull a page out of Elway, Jimbo, or Eli's book.  He was the hottest QB coming out of college, he probably could have used that to go somewhere other than Cinci, with the worst financials in the league.

He played in Ohio during highschool and of course started at Ohio State so maybe thought he could pull a LeBron James.

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

He played in Ohio during highschool and of course started at Ohio State so maybe thought he could pull a LeBron James.

 

Interesting. In the NBA the player is at the top of the food chain. In the NFL you can’t get over a terrible owner.  

[3rdand12]

3 hours ago, BearNorth said:

it would mean saying bye bye to Groot tho.

Espeneza ?

Beane finds money

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

I get why Burrow is going to get frustrated at an organization that can’t/won’t do things his fellow elite QB’s orgs can/will do. 
 

However, if he’s going to get mad they won’t pay Higgins AND Chase, when Allen, Mahomes and Lamar don’t have anyone on the level of either of those two, is a bit much.  
 

Especially when he’s seen the Chiefs trade Tyreek and the Bills trade Diggs. 

This is a good point if all true

Little late to call a mulligan Joe . Just own it. work harder

20 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Oh boy, sounds like Santa didn’t bring you a new ashtray. 

LOLd  thank you

Love House btw

20 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Burrow is strange for a great QB. Usually a top QB elevates the talent around him, but Burrow really needs two #1 WRs to be successful. For example, the Bengals are 6-4 with Higgins but 1-4 without him. The only game that the Bengals won without Higgins was against the Raiders. Chase has played every game. So, just having the best WR in the league is not enough for him. He needs #1 and another top 10 guy to do anything. 

Dont they have a for real RB too ?
 Glory hole guy in Burrow ?

[14774]

54 minutes ago, 97bills said:

Exactly, and I never understood why players like Calvin Johnson , berry sanders , and many more players, always keep signing with franchises they knew were going no where. I guess money over winning. 

If BUF fails to ever get over the hump, how would you feel about JA if he left? 

[biggerdaddynj]

If Burrow really cares, put his money where his mouth is and restructure his deal to give them room to take care of Chase and re-sign Higgins and make other moves (not a novel idea).  That said, I know nothing about the current fiscal state of the Bengals (other than that the Brown family’s DNA seems to include a historic dominant “frugality” gene).

Edited December 28, 2024 by biggerdaddynj

[That's No Moon]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

The Bills were among the first teams in the league to have an indoor practice facility when it opened in the mid 90s. A steel supported structure 12 stories high with a fixed, steel girded roof. Nowhere near a bubble. 

They had a bubble before that. They got it shortly after Chuck Knox left for Seattle, partly because we didn't have an indoor practice facility.

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

This was entirely predictable. It is the result of having a cash poor owner by the standards of the modern NFL. 

 

It happened to Palmer, it happened to Dalton, no idea why people thought it wouldn't happen to Burrow just because he was the best of those three. They don't pay people to stay and they don't restructure contracts each year to create space to strengthen a roster in a window. 

 

It is who the Bengals are.

It’s why Burrow has had a far higher cap hit than Josh the last two years despite signing his contract later. Poor owner

[K-9]

27 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

They had a bubble before that. They got it shortly after Chuck Knox left for Seattle, partly because we didn't have an indoor practice facility.

We were also among the very first teams to have a bubble as well. Back then, nobody had steel framed indoor practice facilities. 

[DCofNC]

They really need to force a sale of that club.  Way too much talent being wasted without funds to back it/promote it.  Let the Browns collect their 5 Billion and move on.

Edited December 28, 2024 by DCofNC

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, Billl said:

It’s not even a consideration for someone who wants to build a competitive team.  They’re valued at over $5 billion, and valuations are increasing by double digits annually.  That’s virtually an unlimited source of equity to tap into.  

 

Which makes zero difference to him being cash poor. He could borrow against the value of an asset... sure. But he'd have to do that because he doesn't have the cash to just write that cheque otherwise. 

[SoMAn]

Semi-related….

is it just me, or does Burrow give anyone else the impression of being an egomaniacal D-bag? 
Can’t put my finger on exactly why, but I really dislike him and glad we have Josh. 

[dave mcbride]

10 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

Semi-related….

is it just me, or does Burrow give anyone else the impression of being an egomaniacal D-bag? 
Can’t put my finger on exactly why, but I really dislike him and glad we have Josh. 

I don’t see that. I do believe he is unbelievably good and of the same caliber as Allen. His season this year is the equal of Allen’s.

[T master]

He's been a good player for a long time & after he won last night he walked around doing what looked to be what Manzeil use to do with the money thing .

 

He's a primma donna NFL QB and he seems to be very ego'd out and very high on him self . I'm so glad we have Josh and if he was that way i'd want him gone but he's no where near that thank god ...

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

17 hours ago, 97bills said:

Exactly, and I never understood why players like Calvin Johnson , berry sanders , and many more players, always keep signing with franchises they knew were going no where. I guess money over winning. 

 

Let's hope Josh doesn't see the light after another divisional round home exit. 

17 hours ago, Low Positive said:

Yes and no. They put a bubble over a turf field. It was a pure Ralph Wilson move. 

 

Yikes! That is terrible. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

One thing about Burrow is the guy takes a lot of sacks. Too his credit he still finds a way to overcome most of those sacks. But I bring the sacks up because they are not all on the offensive line which is a suggestion so many like to make. Burrow has a little Russel Wilson in him in the sense that both will be high percentage sack takers their entire careers despite having mobility to move around. Between the two QB's they have 18 combined seasons all with sack percentages greater than 6%. Mahomes is being sacked the most of his career this year and still has a percentage just below 6% on the season.