asyranok Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) Just wanted to rub it in the faces of the Josh Allen doubters. I told you Ravens fans know an elite QB in the making when they see one. You might think seeing tons of good QB's on your team for decades is the best way to identify a future all star. But the real litmus test for being able to spot a pro QB is having the worst (or most disappointing and underperforming) QB's in the nfl playing for you for most of your life as a fan. Makes it all so much clearer when you see someone good who just needs some time. I'll make sure to come back and rub it in your faces more after he wins you a superbowl. Edited 16 hours ago by asyranok 9 1 1 3 4 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Is he better than Lamar is the real question 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Don't know about their fans but their front office/scouting since Ozzie has been pretty darn good. I was amazed that the second best QB in Josh's draft almost fell out of the first round. Ravens are a well managed organization. 1 2 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Just now, Aussie Joe said: Is he better than Lamar is the real question Yes. There is a demarcation between the two but both are gold jacket QBs. Ozzie is going to get in the Hof as a GM imo 1 2 Quote
Heavy Kevi Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 18 minutes ago, asyranok said: Just wanted to rub it in the faces of the Josh Allen doubters. I told you Ravens fans know an elite QB in the making when they see one. You might think seeing tons of good QB's on your team for decades is the best way to identify a future all star. But the real litmus test for being able to spot a pro QB is having the worst (or most disappointing and underperforming) QB's in the nfl playing for you for most of your life as a fan. Makes it all so much clearer when you see someone good who just needs some time. I'll make sure to come back and rub it in your faces more after he wins you a superbowl. Weird flex but why not🤷🏻♂️ 1 2 Quote
zow2 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago There's a lot of receipts being saved about Allen. 2 Quote
Steptide Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Man last season all I saw was "Tua is just as good as Allen" all over Twitter and social media. Now it's all about Lamar vs Allen. I could not careless. I do not give a shiz who wins mvp. Give me a freaking superbowl a million times 6 3 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Steptide said: Man last season all I saw was "Tua is just as good as Allen" all over Twitter and social media. Now it's all about Lamar vs Allen. I could not careless. I do not give a shiz who wins mvp. Give me a freaking superbowl a million times every year they do this- allen v lamar, allen v mahomes, allen v whoever its because he's the best and it's not particularly difficult to see 2 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: every year they do this- allen v lamar, allen v mahomes, allen v whoever its because he's the best and it's not particularly difficult to see I can't say he's the best until he beats mahomes in the playoffs and wins the Superbowl. That's how it's always been Quote
Rico Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Josh is scary, Lamar is pesky. Good thing for them, Derrick Henry is also scary. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 17 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: every year they do this- allen v lamar, allen v mahomes, allen v whoever its because he's the best and it's not particularly difficult to see They match Josh Allen up every year with a different elite qb which simply justifies his foundational greatest. The one thing that annoys me the most regarding the Lamer/ Allen argument is Jackson's abysmal playoff performances. I think we as fans obviously would love to see Buffalo get their first QB MVP. But the true objective I'm sure for JA17 is the Lombardi. Quote
Dr.Sack Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Only thing that matters: Lamar 2-4. 1-1 WC, 1-2 DIV, 0-1 AFCG Allen 5-5. 4-1 WC, 1-3 DIV, 0-1 AFCG Mahomes 15-3. 2-0 WC, 6-0 DIV, 4-2 AFCG, 3-1 SB 2 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Steptide said: Man last season all I saw was "Tua is just as good as Allen" all over Twitter and social media. Now it's all about Lamar vs Allen. I could not careless. I do not give a shiz who wins mvp. Give me a freaking superbowl a million times IMO, with the Bills vulnerability on D, Josh will need to be Superman for a month for the Bills to win the SB this particular year. He can do it, but can he hold up for a month doing it. Hope so. Next year all the Diggs, Miller, etc monsterous salary cap baggage goes away and Beane will be able to do in FA much of what he wanted to do for this season. This season has already been a success in my book. Getting past Ravens, Chiefs, Lions on consecutive weeks? Hard to see that happening. Hope I am wrong. Quote
GolfandBills Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago I’m tired of people bashing the other QB over who’s had the better season. Media doesn’t help it either. Both Lamar and Josh are deserving of the award but unfortunately it only goes to 1 person. Of course i want it to be Josh but if Lamar wins it he’s very deserving of it. The “he has Henry” argument is ridiculous. Allen has Cook who’s having a great year ass well. 1 1 1 Quote
buffblue Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: I’m tired of people bashing the other QB over who’s had the better season. Media doesn’t help it either. Both Lamar and Josh are deserving of the award but unfortunately it only goes to 1 person. Of course i want it to be Josh but if Lamar wins it he’s very deserving of it. The “he has Henry” argument is ridiculous. Allen has Cook who’s having a great year ass well. Cook is nowhere the near the level of Henry though, and he has barely half the rushing yardage. To act like they're similarly impactful players is ridiculous imo 1 Quote
asyranok Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago 26 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: They match Josh Allen up every year with a different elite qb which simply justifies his foundational greatest. The one thing that annoys me the most regarding the Lamer/ Allen argument is Jackson's abysmal playoff performances. I think we as fans obviously would love to see Buffalo get their first QB MVP. But the true objective I'm sure for JA17 is the Lombardi. I'd push back on that. Lamar has not been abysmal in the playoffs. The Ravens have been. Every time he's been in the playoffs, I've felt like he was the only one making ANY attempt to win. The rest of the team around him just... chokes. Don't get me wrong, most of his playoff performances are on the "worst of his games" list, but he is always the only one in those games getting anything done. And then his team lets him down and he gets the lionshare of the blame for it for some reason. 1 Quote
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