BADOLBILZ Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM 4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: LMAO...I don't know if there is anyone who talks more out of their a** than you. It’s wild to me that you can have so much confidence in your BS to where you won't even know the facts but yet still try and argue things you don’t know with people who do know. But since you asked so nicely for me to again dunk on another one of your bad takes and ridiculous false accusations, I am happy to oblige. First: What I said: "Not only does he have more drops than people realize, but his career pattern is a few big games that make up like 40% of his season totals, then the rest are meh to invisible games." - Note: You of course left the part out I said about the drops...because...well...even you can't spin that. And the point (which you also didn’t quote) was that Amari was a good midseason acquisition, but resigning him should only be done on a cost friendly deal, if he wants lead WR1 type money then no, too many drops and inconsistency for a guy like that who is also on the wrong side of 30. 2023 - 15 games: 5 big games. They made up 58% of his season totals. In the other 10 games he averaged 51 yards per game, including SIX under 40 yards. 2022 - 17 games: 5 good to big games. They made up 48% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 50 yards per game, including EIGHT games under 60 yards, 6 of which were under 40 yards. 2021 - 15 games: 2 big games. They made up 30% of his season totals. In the other 13 games he averaged 46 ypg, including NINE under 60 yards, 5 of which were under 40 yards. 2020 - 16 games: 4 good to big games. They made up 42% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 53 ypg, including SIX under 60 yards. 2019 - 16 games: 4 good to big games. They made up 49% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 50 ypg, including FIVE games under 50 yards. 2018 - 15 games: 4 big games. They made up 64% of his season totals. In the other 11 games he averaged 33 ypg, including EIGHT under 40 yards 2017 - 14 games: 2 big games. They made up 48% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 30 ypg, including NINE under 50 yards, 8 of which were under 40 yards. 2016 - 16 games: 4 big games. They made up 50% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 48 yards per game, including NINE under 60 yards, 7 of which were under 50 yards. 2015 - 15 games: 5 good to big games. They made up 57% of his season totals. In the other 10 games he averaged 10 games he averaged 46 ypg, including EIGHT under 50 yards. Cooper has 153 career games: He has under 50 yards 69 times (45% of his career games) - 54 of those games were under 40 yards (35% of his career games) - 42 of those games were under 30 yards. (28% of his career games) Hopefully you weren't too full from the holidays after having to eat another plate of humble pie here because I would hate for you to get a tummy ache sport Happy new year Ok so NOW you are saying that in just ONE season(2017) 40% of his production came in a few(3) games. Like I thought..........hyperbole that wouldn't hold up to actual statistical analysis. Amari Cooper isn't an elite WR1. He is a good WR1 who specializes in making big plays downfield. That's why he has a career 14.2 yards per reception and is second all-time with four 200 yard games. If you need a guy to soak up targets, he's not the guy. But the Bills don't need that. They need a legit threat to put up 6 when isolated against CB1. That's him. 2 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM 3 minutes ago, MDH said: If your point is actually career why not let that season’s numbers stand as an outlier instead of manipulating them? I did not in any way manipulate them. What did I state? I said he has some big games that make his season totals look better than his season really is where those handful of bigger games make up like 40% of his season totals. Which they do (often quite a bit more than 40% of his season totals) in pretty much every season of his career. You then respond saying he has a 200+ yard game and that manipulates the numbers. I mean that is exactly what I stated, VERBATIM my point. I said in his other games that are NOT his bigger games he averaged just 50 yards per game. Which again is factual. I did NOT say all 10 of his games were “bad”. I said that this was his average over those NON BIG GAMES in 2023 and every one of his seasons. I then additionally highlighted how many of those were “bad” by stating he had X number of games under X number of yards in each season. NONE of his games were ignored or not counted. A 89 yard game in a loss with no TDs on a 55% catch rate is NOT a big game. It’s a aight game at best. The separation was big games vs everything else. IMO, your mistake is associating every non big game as me claiming it was a “bad” game…but that was your assumption, no where did I state that. And in his best season (2023) he still averaged just 51 ypg in his non 5 big games and had 6 of those ten be under 40 yards. If 6 were under 40, then of course 4 of them had to be high enough to get his 10 game average back to 51. And if you took the time to properly understand my post and then checked each year after, you would see every other year of his 10 year career is worse than 2023. Every single game he has played was 100% accounted for in the 10 seasons I laid out. And to be clear, I’m not anti Cooper, I broke it down to counter the nonsense someone else posted. Unfortunately you just repeated the same mistake he made. The difference though is I am sure your post was more about legitimately misunderstanding my post. Quote
MDH Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: LMAO...I don't know if there is anyone who talks more out of their a** than you. It’s wild to me that you can have so much confidence in your BS to where you won't even know the facts but yet still try and argue things you don’t know with people who do know. But since you asked so nicely for me to again dunk on another one of your bad takes and ridiculous false accusations, I am happy to oblige. First: What I said: "Not only does he have more drops than people realize, but his career pattern is a few big games that make up like 40% of his season totals, then the rest are meh to invisible games." - Note: You of course left the part out I said about the drops...because...well...even you can't spin that. And the point (which you also didn’t quote) was that Amari was a good midseason acquisition, but resigning him should only be done on a cost friendly deal, if he wants lead WR1 type money then no, too many drops and inconsistency for a guy like that who is also on the wrong side of 30. 2023 - 15 games: 5 big games. They made up 58% of his season totals. In the other 10 games he averaged 51 yards per game, including SIX under 40 yards. 2022 - 17 games: 5 good to big games. They made up 48% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 50 yards per game, including EIGHT games under 60 yards, 6 of which were under 40 yards. 2021 - 15 games: 2 big games. They made up 30% of his season totals. In the other 13 games he averaged 46 ypg, including NINE under 60 yards, 5 of which were under 40 yards. 2020 - 16 games: 4 good to big games. They made up 42% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 53 ypg, including SIX under 60 yards. 2019 - 16 games: 4 good to big games. They made up 49% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 50 ypg, including FIVE games under 50 yards. 2018 - 15 games: 4 big games. They made up 64% of his season totals. In the other 11 games he averaged 33 ypg, including EIGHT under 40 yards 2017 - 14 games: 2 big games. They made up 48% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 30 ypg, including NINE under 50 yards, 8 of which were under 40 yards. 2016 - 16 games: 4 big games. They made up 50% of his season totals. In the other 12 games he averaged 48 yards per game, including NINE under 60 yards, 7 of which were under 50 yards. 2015 - 15 games: 5 good to big games. They made up 57% of his season totals. In the other 10 games he averaged 10 games he averaged 46 ypg, including EIGHT under 50 yards. Cooper has 153 career games: He has under 50 yards 69 times (45% of his career games) - 54 of those games were under 40 yards (35% of his career games) - 42 of those games were under 30 yards. (28% of his career games) Hopefully you weren't too full from the holidays after having to eat another plate of humble pie here because I would hate for you to get a tummy ache sport Happy new year In order to compare these numbers you need other WRs numbers. So I had a hypothesis - I could take almost any WRs numbers, look at their total yards for the season then look at a game log, take however many games it takes to get to around half their total yards and it would look similar to Amari’s. So the first guy I checked is who I think is the best WR in the game,- Ja’mar Chase. 2024 - 15 games 1510 rec yards. 4 BIG games (as you like to say) - 752. That’s 50% of his yards in 4 games. 2023 - 16 games 1216 rec yards. 4 BIG games - 606 yards. That’s 49% of his yards in 4 games. 2022 - 12 games 1046 yards - 4 BIG games - 510 yards. That’s 49% of his yards in 4 games. This was his most consistent season game to game. Interestingly, this is considered his “worst” year. 2021 - 17 games 1455 rec yards. 4 BIG games - 751. That’s 52% his yards in 4 games. Maybe, just maybe, WR is a high variance position game in, game out. Of course, we’d need to track a LOT more data in order to make this declaration with any certainty and I’m not willing to do so. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted yesterday at 01:48 AM Posted yesterday at 01:48 AM 10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Ok so NOW you are saying that in just ONE season(2017) 40% of his production came in a few(3) games. Like I thought..........hyperbole that wouldn't hold up to actual statistical analysis. Haha thanks for being so predictable…you won me a bet with my wife that this nonsense is how you would reply. She thought no way you would still try after it was clearly laid out for you. 10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Amari Cooper isn't an elite WR1. He is a good WR1 who specializes in making big plays downfield. That's why he has a career 14.2 yards per reception and is second all-time with four 200 yard games. If you need a guy to soak up targets, he's not the guy. But the Bills don't need that. They need a legit threat to put up 6 when isolated against CB1. That's him. This I agree on. Which is why I said he was a good midseason add…and also why I said you resign Cooper if it’s a cost friendly deal. If he wants legit WR1 money it’s a pass. You don’t pay a guy legit WR1 money who has too many drops and disappears as often as he does, and who is also on the wrong side of 30. 39 minutes ago, MDH said: In order to compare these numbers you need other WRs numbers. So I had a hypothesis - I could take almost any WRs numbers, look at their total yards for the season then look at a game log, take however many games it takes to get to around half their total yards and it would look similar to Amari’s. So the first guy I checked is who I think is the best WR in the game,- Ja’mar Chase. 2024 - 15 games 1510 rec yards. 4 BIG games (as you like to say) - 752. That’s 50% of his yards in 4 games. 2023 - 16 games 1216 rec yards. 4 BIG games - 606 yards. That’s 49% of his yards in 4 games. 2022 - 12 games 1046 yards - 4 BIG games - 510 yards. That’s 49% of his yards in 4 games. This was his most consistent season game to game. Interestingly, this is considered his “worst” year. 2021 - 17 games 1455 rec yards. 4 BIG games - 751. That’s 52% his yards in 4 games. Maybe, just maybe, WR is a high variance position game in, game out. Of course, we’d need to track a LOT more data in order to make this declaration with any certainty and I’m not willing to do so. You left out what he averages in the other games, how many games under 50 yards, how many yards under 40 yards, etc. Go compare how many games Chase has under 20 yards compared to how many Copper has. So for someone accusing of manipulating numbers, you just did half the work to manipulate a point. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted yesterday at 03:11 AM Posted yesterday at 03:11 AM 10 hours ago, BillytheKid said: well even if so the offense is still opened up because of Amari or Coleman. If both of those guys ever end up out at the same time the offense will get bogged down some again because the defense won’t have any one to respect deep.. Both Keon and Cooper were out Week 10. And the offense rolled along just fine. 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted yesterday at 03:46 AM Posted yesterday at 03:46 AM 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Haha thanks for being so predictable…you won me a bet with my wife that this nonsense is how you would reply. She thought no way you would still try after it was clearly laid out for you. This I agree on. Which is why I said he was a good midseason add…and also why I said you resign Cooper if it’s a cost friendly deal. If he wants legit WR1 money it’s a pass. You don’t pay a guy legit WR1 money who has too many drops and disappears as often as he does, and who is also on the wrong side of 30. You left out what he averages in the other games, how many games under 50 yards, how many yards under 40 yards, etc. Go compare how many games Chase has under 20 yards compared to how many Copper has. So for someone accusing of manipulating numbers, you just did half the work to manipulate a point. Congratulations for accurately predicting that I wouldn't accept LESS than what you claimed was the norm and I took exception to. What's more, there is no context whatsoever to your stats. Cooper has never been considered a top 2 WR in the league like Hopkins or Diggs.......but for the sake of argument and to illustrate my point that your now upwardly adjusted stats aren't nearly as compelling as you want them to seem...........I pulled ONE random, corresponding mid-career season from DeAndre Hopkins and Stef Diggs to see how their best 4-5 games impacted their totals. 2018. In their 4 "best" games Hopkins and Diggs produced 41% and 48% of their receiving yardage, respectively. Oh my........it seems those numbers track with most of the years you claimed that Cooper was some kind of distant outlier among high producing WR's, don't they? 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted yesterday at 04:21 AM Posted yesterday at 04:21 AM (edited) 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: You left out what he averages in the other games, how many games under 50 yards, how many yards under 40 yards, etc. Go compare how many games Chase has under 20 yards compared to how many Copper has. So for someone accusing of manipulating numbers, you just did half the work to manipulate a point. No, he's right on. This is how stats work. These numbers have high variance. Of course most of his production will come in around 30 - 40% of his games. Again, that's how it works for most data sets of this type. You get some good games, some average games and some not so good. Most of the production comes in the good games. That's just how the numbers work. Look at James Cook. 928 total rush yards in 14 games. Four games over 100 yards. So 46% of his production came in just four of his fourteen games. Does that mean he sucked in the rest or that his production is only sporadic? No, it's how this all works. Throw in Cook's next highest game and you find that he got 505 yards in his best five games. Meaning in the rest of his games he only averaged 47 yards per game in his worst nine games. That's just how stats work. Take out the best games and the rest will show a pretty low average. It's just math in cases when a guy gets on the average around seven or eight targets a game or around 11 or 12 carries a game. There's going to be a lot of variance. And when there is a lot of variance, then if you take out the top 30 - 40% of games, the rest will average quite low. Leaving out this year, when he's been fighting injury and dealing with a completely new offensive system (and in Cleveland a horrible situation this year), in 2021 - 2023, Coop totalled four games under 20 yards. Chase had two in the same period. Out of roughly 50 games, three seasons, that's not a significant difference. Unsurprisingly, three of Coop's games below 20 came in Cleveland. Having Joe Burrow throwing to you rather than Massage King will smooth out your variance a bit. But not a lot, as MDH showed. This is how everyone's stats look, or rather the huge majority of guys stats, though if you get so many more targets, as Chase does, you will have fewer extremely low totals such as under 20 yards. But you will still average a lot lower in your bottom 60 or 70% of your games. It's just math, and math works the same for everyone. This year Chase has only had one game where he got less than 6 targets (5 vs. KC) and only six games with less than 8 targets. Whereas Cooper in Buffalo this year has had two games with more than three targets. And one of those two (vs. LA) he had 14 targets. That's variance. Edited 22 hours ago by Thurman#1 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: No, he's right on. This is how stats work. These numbers have high variance. Of course most of his production will come in around 30 - 40% of his games. Again, that's how it works for most data sets of this type. You get some good games, some average games and some not so good. Most of the production comes in the good games. That's just how the numbers work. Look at James Cook. 928 total rush yards in 14 games. Four games over 100 yards. So 46% of his production came in just four of his fourteen games. Does that mean he sucked in the rest or that his production is only sporadic? No, it's how this all works. Throw in Cook's next highest game and you find that he got 505 yards in his best five games. Meaning in the rest of his games he only averaged 47 yards per game in his worst nine games. That's just how stats work. Take out the best games and the rest will show a pretty low average. It's just math in cases when a guy gets on the average around seven or eight targets a game or around 11 or 12 carries a game. There's going to be a lot of variance. And when there's a lot of variance if you take out the top 30 - 40% of games, the rest will average quite low. Leaving out this year, when he's been fighting injury and dealing with a completely new offensive system (and in Cleveland a horrible situation this year), in 2021 - 2023, Coop totalled four games under 20 yards. Chase had two in the same period. Out of roughly 50 games, three seasons, that's not a significant difference. Unsurprisingly, three of Coop's games below 20 came in Cleveland. Having Joe Burrow throwing to you rather than Massage King will smooth out your variance a bit. But not a lot, as MDH showed. This is how everyone's stats look, though if you get so many more targets, as Chase does, you will have fewer extremely low totals such as under 20 yards. But you will still average a lot lower in your bottom 60 or 70% of your games. It's just math, and math works the same for everyone. This year Chase has only had one game where he got less than 6 targets (5 vs. KC) and only six games with less than 8 targets. Whereas Cooper in Buffalo this year has had two games with more than three targets. And one of those two (vs. LA) he had 14 targets. That's variance. Because this convo has gone on and on, the actual point has been lost. The point is the significance in Amaris variance, not that there is variance in the first place. I mean let’s not be ridiculous and act like I was remotely suggesting there should be no variance, that’s absurd. Cooper has 45% of his career games under 50 yards. The number of games he has under 50, under 40, even under 20 yards is higher than what top end WR1s should have. So no, he’s not spot on. I never once stated there should be no variance, it’s football, of course their variance. I’ve talked about the DEGREE of variance with Cooper. And it’s factual, there is no denying the statistical facts of the boom or bust weekly variance of Coopers career. And back to my original point…you sign him if it’s a reasonable friendly deal. If he wants legit WR1 money…you don’t over pay a guy on the wrong side of 30 who drops too many passes and disappears for too many games. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Congratulations for accurately predicting that I wouldn't accept LESS than what you claimed was the norm and I took exception to. What's more, there is no context whatsoever to your stats. Cooper has never been considered a top 2 WR in the league like Hopkins or Diggs.......but for the sake of argument and to illustrate my point that your now upwardly adjusted stats aren't nearly as compelling as you want them to seem...........I pulled ONE random, corresponding mid-career season from DeAndre Hopkins and Stef Diggs to see how their best 4-5 games impacted their totals. 2018. In their 4 "best" games Hopkins and Diggs produced 41% and 48% of their receiving yardage, respectively. Oh my........it seems those numbers track with most of the years you claimed that Cooper was some kind of distant outlier among high producing WR's, don't they? Your comprehension is at an all time low…it’s not that there is variance, it’s the extremes of his variance. Hence why I provided you with all the data you are ignoring and desperately trying to skew and cherry pick (which is your total schtick and par for the course with you) in a desperate attempt to pull the foot from your mouth. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Because this convo has gone on and on, the actual point has been lost. The point is the significance in Amaris variance, not that there is variance in the first place. I mean let’s not be ridiculous and act like I was remotely suggesting there should be no variance, that’s absurd. Cooper has 45% of his career games under 50 yards. The number of games he has under 50, under 40, even under 20 yards is higher than what top end WR1s should have. So no, he’s not spot on. I never once stated there should be no variance, it’s football, of course their variance. I’ve talked about the DEGREE of variance with Cooper. And it’s factual, there is no denying the statistical facts of the boom or bust weekly variance of Coopers career. And back to my original point…you sign him if it’s a reasonable friendly deal. If he wants legit WR1 money…you don’t over pay a guy on the wrong side of 30 who drops too many passes and disappears for too many games. Yeah, I get that it's not about that there is variance in the first place. And yes, it's about the significance of the variance. Get all of that and didn't say anything different. The fact that there's a ton of variance means that pretty much everyone has stats that are pretty similar to that, 45% of games under 50 yards is in the ordinary range, 35% - 45% is what people tend to be grouped around. That's the results of variance. There are a few higher than that, most particularly the few true #1s who tend to get an absolute ton of targets. And comparing him to "top end WR1s" is disingenuous. He was never a true #1. He was a top end #2 for most of his career probably, top 20 - 30 or so but he was never a top ten guy, he just wasn't. Although his QBs may have played into that. So yes, MDH is spot on. Yes, game by game, Amari's been a boom or bust type of guy. Nearly everyone is. That's how the stats work if you're not getting top ten targets, for guys like DeVonta Smith, DK Metcalf, Deebo, Aiyuk, Courtland Sutton, George Pickens ... Oh, Nico Collins is at almost 50%, though there are reasons, but that's just the point ... in a lot of games there are reasons, for everyone. Xavier Worthy is way over, though I only mention him because he's on so many people's minds here, apparently, he's not really a fair case study as a rookie. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, I get that it's not about that there is variance in the first place. And yes, it's about the significance of the variance. Get all of that and didn't say anything different. The fact that there's a ton of variance means that pretty much everyone has stats that are pretty similar to that, 45% of games under 50 yards is in the ordinary range, 35% - 45% is what people tend to be grouped around. That's the results of variance. There are a few higher than that, most particularly the few true #1s who tend to get an absolute ton of targets. And comparing him to "top end WR1s" is disingenuous. He was never a true #1. He was a top end #2 for most of his career probably, top 20 - 30 or so but he was never a top ten guy, he just wasn't. Although his QBs may have played into that. So yes, MDH is spot on. Yes, game by game, Amari's been a boom or bust type of guy. Nearly everyone is. That's how the stats work if you're not getting top ten targets, for guys like DeVonta Smith, DK Metcalf, Deebo, Aiyuk, Courtland Sutton, George Pickens ... Oh, Nico Collins is at almost 50%, though there are reasons, but that's just the point ... in a lot of games there are reasons, for everyone. Xavier Worthy is way over, though I only mention him because he's on so many people's minds here, apparently, he's not really a fair case study as a rookie. No he is not spot on. I’ve done the variance on other WRs and Amari is worse, especially in the really bad games under 40, 30, and 20 yards. I’ve said this about Cooper his whole career. It’s why both the Raiders and Dallas traded him. Raiders didn’t want to pay him what he was going to get as a free agent and Dallas over paid him as an elite WR1 and then he was wildly inconsistent and didn’t live up to the contract. So no, MDH is right there is variance…but I never said there wasn’t variances. He keeps doing “spot checks” on partial data then claiming Cooper is on par with other top WR1’s and it’s just not correct. Again, Cooper was a good add, he brought a dimension we needed. But we are talking about signing him back as a FA here. And he is on the wrong side of 30, drops a lot of passes over his career, and is statistically more likely to put up less than 40 yards than he is more than 70 yards. And that data was generated during the prime of his career, he is again now on the wrong side of 30. In 4 of his last 6 games he has a TOTAL of 25 yards for an avg of 6.25 ypg playing with Josh Allen. So the point in my original point stated you sign him back if it’s a cost friendly deal. If he wants legit WR1 type money it’s a hard pass, you can replicate his weekly decoy status and occasional relevant game elsewhere for cheaper, like the draft where we have 3 picks in first 2 rounds plus 3 more in round 4. Edited 12 hours ago by Alphadawg7 1 Quote
L Ron Burgundy Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Cooper disappears too much to be anyone's number 1 wr. I think everyone agrees with that right? 1 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago The best part is posters contorting themselves into explaining Cooper's low impact since he was signed: "he's sucking up all the coverage so the rest of the room can eat!" "they are saving him for the playoffs!" "his occasional snaps are only for sham routes to fool potential opposing playoff DC's!" 1 1 Quote
Blackbeard Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The best part is posters contorting themselves into explaining Cooper's low impact since he was signed: "he's sucking up all the coverage so the rest of the room can eat!" "they are saving him for the playoffs!" "his occasional snaps are only for sham routes to fool potential opposing playoff DC's!" So what's your explanation then? Quote
mikemac2001 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Cooper disappears too much to be anyone's number 1 wr. I think everyone agrees with that right? Just appear during the playoffs 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: So what's your explanation then? same as the majority of Beane's vet WR signings over the years....his best days are well behind him. No one brings in a guy like that on a team like this to sit around on game day. Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Amari is a rental. I hope the Bills let him walk and continue to invest in draft picks. 2 Quote
3rdand12 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 12/26/2024 at 5:43 PM, Doc Brown said: Shakir is a lot easier to replace than a bonafide #1 outside WR. Seeing Brian Thomas Jr. flourishing right now on a BAD Jags team is frustrating. Beane could've had the most important skill position locked down for at least the next five years. I don't think it would've taken that much future draft capital to move from 28th to the 18th to 22nd range to acquire him. Shakir is a critical piece to This Offense. Cooper isn't. He can be replaced/upgraded Maybe this years draft Eh Doc ? 😉 Quote
3rdand12 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, mikemac2001 said: Just appear during the playoffs Very Zen perspective 2001. Thinking same. Let er rip Josh. Coop go get ball. Seems it might be about time ? for few show me plays from him. Gimme one solid Allen to Amari post deep completion against the jest. please. 3 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Amari is a rental. I hope the Bills let him walk and continue to invest in draft picks. At this rate of production it's simple as that. draft his Type though Quote
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