Kirby Jackson Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Most of these are correct. Allen is more talented than Jim. But 4 straight SB's is unheard of. Kelly>Allen. That’s just such a lazy argument. If you drop Allen onto that roster they win 2 or 3 of those 4 (and probably go the Ronnie Harmon year as well). Kelly was the steward of an unbelievable offense. Josh Allen is an unbelievable offense. The gap between them is quite wide. Edited 15 hours ago by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Quote
Johnny Bravo Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 20 hours ago, Danger Mouse said: Sorry - I'm sure you've done this so many time before But I'm really interested in your views. The game here is, obviously, the best Bills of all time per position. But one player per position. Not the established best. The one YOU think is best. in YOUR opinion: Quote reply answers and educate me: QB RB: WR: TE: OT: G: C : DE: OLB: MLB: CB: FS/SS: P: K - actually, no. KR: Head Coach: What a fun topic! QB=Allen RB=OJ WR=Moulds TE=Riemersma OT=Dion OG=Joe D C=Hull DE=Bruce OLB=Biscuit MLB=Sam Cowart CB=Odomes S=Henry Jones P=Moorman K=Christie KR=McGee Coach=McDermott Edited 15 hours ago by Johnny Bravo 1 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 20 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: QB: Josh Allen RB: OJ Simpson WR: Andre Reed TE: Pete Metzelaars OT: Jason Peters OG: Joe DeLamielleure C: Kent Hull DE: Bruce Smith DT: Kyle Williams OLB: Cornelius Bennett MLB: London Fletcher CB: Antoine Winfield S: Micah Hyde K: Steve Christie P: Brian Moorman KR: Terrence McGee Quote reply answers and educate me: QB: Josh Allen RB: Thurman Thomas WR: Andre Reed TE: Pete Meztzelaars OT: Dion Dawkins G: Joe Delamielleure C : Kent Hull DE: Bruce Smith DT: Tom Sestak OLB: Mike Stratton MLB: Shane Conlan CB: Butch Byrd FS/SS: Micah Hyde P: Brian Moorman K - Steve Christie KR: Terrance McGee Head Coach: Marv Levy Quote
ticketssince61 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 13 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said: He has to get to the super bowl imo. That's how I view it Reed dropped two critical 1st downs when buffalo was up 12-3.... Kelly only had the ball for 19 min Those still haunt me - we were driving late in the half and if he caught the ball we might have score to make the game 19-3 or 15-3. Minimally, the Giants would not have had time to score the TD before the half to make it 12-10. With a bigger lead for the Bills, the Giants likely would have had to change their ground control game plan Quote
BigDingus Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 12/23/2024 at 6:30 PM, Danger Mouse said: Sorry - I'm sure you've done this so many time before But I'm really interested in your views. The game here is, obviously, the best Bills of all time per position. But one player per position. Not the established best. The one YOU think is best. in YOUR opinion: Quote reply answers and educate me: QB RB: WR: TE: OT: G: C : DE: OLB: MLB: CB: FS/SS: P: K - actually, no. KR: Head Coach: QB: Josh Allen RB: Thurman Thomas WR1: Andre Reed WR2: Stefon Diggs WR3: Eric Moulds TE: Jay Riemersma (fight me!) T1: Jason Peters T2: Dion Dawkins G1: Joe DeLamielleure G2: Ruben Brown (fight me again!) C : Kent Hull DE1: Bruce Smith (duh) DE2: Mario Williams DT1: Kyle Williams DT2: Marcell Dareus OLB1: Cornelius Bennett OLB2: Takeo Spikes MLB: London Fletcher CB1: Antoine Winfield CB2: Nate Clements CB3: Stephon Gilmore FS: Micah Hyde SS: Jordan Poyer (Yeah, I know that's 12 defensive players, but it depends on 4-3 or 3-4 scheme!) P: Brian Moorman K: Tyler Bass... pre-this year. KR: Terrence McGee Quote
BobbyC81 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago On 12/23/2024 at 5:52 PM, MJS said: QB: Jim Kelly RB: OJ Simpson WR1: Andre Reed WR2: Eric Moulds WR3: Elbert Dubenion TE: Dawson Knox OT: Will Wolford G: Joe DeLamielleure C :Kent Hull DE: Bruce Smith DT: Kyle Williams OLB: Cornelius Bennett MLB: Mike Stratton CB: Butch Byrd FS/SS: George Saimes P: Brian Moorman K: Steve Christie KR: Terrance McGee ST: Steve Tasker Head Coach: Marv Levy One of the best lists so far and likely from an old-timer like myself. Quote
Yockopondowsk Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago On 12/23/2024 at 7:50 PM, Sojourner said: There’s some we haven’t had any AP1 player at but with AP2 team, they all can be filled except Tight End. QB: Allen RB: Thurman WR: Diggs TE*: Metzelaars OT: Wilford G: Joe D C : Hull DE: Bruce DT: Smerlas OLB: Paup/Biscuit MLB: Spikes CB: Odomes FS/SS: Byrd P: Moorman K: Norwood, actually yes. KR: McGee Head Coach: Marv I know you didn’t specify that they had to be an All-Pro selection but I did it anyway lol Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 58 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: One of the best lists so far and likely from an old-timer like myself. With all due respect, the nostalgia of what Kelly’s teams accomplished, is far beyond the quality of Kelly as a player. He’s not in Allen’s league. It’s just not a reasonable opinion, at this point to believe that he’s a superior player. This list is the BEST players at each position in Bills history not THE MOST IMPORTANT (even still an argument could be made that Allen was more important). That’s an important distinction. Let me ask it a little differently, “if prime Kelly and prime Allen were both on this team now, who would start?” What about, “if prime Kelly and prime Allen were both on those early 1990’s teams? Who would start?” When you do it like that there isn’t a logical argument to make for Kelly. He was very good. He was ELITE at operating that system. There’s a guy in the AFCE that is very good and elite at operating his system. It’s not Allen, Rodgers or Maye. I’m not saying that Kelly is Tua. Of course, he’s way better than that but you get the point. There’s a massive difference in guys that you win with vs. guys that you win because of. You won because of Kelly sometimes, like you do Jalen Hurts. Often, the quality of his roster overwhelms teams. It’s extremely rare that the quality of the Bills roster overwhelms teams if Allen isn’t at least very good. Both teams win a lot. Edited 48 minutes ago by Kirby Jackson Quote
Yockopondowsk Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) QB: Allen HB # 32 Split end: Andre Reed Flanker: Elbert Dubenion TE. Metzlaars. OT: Wofford/ House G: Billy Shaw / Joe D C : Hull FB: Cookie Gilchrist DE: Bruce / McDole DT: Ted Washington / Sestak OLB: Biscuit/Talley MLB: Harry Jacobs CB: Robert James CB: Butch Byrd FS/SS: Micah Hyde / Jordan Poyer P: Moorman K: Pete Gogolak. KR: Charley Warner Head Coach: Lou Saban Edited 54 minutes ago by Yockopondowsk Forgot some positions Quote
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