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Maybe I missed this in other threads, but I have an honest question from yesterdays game.  Has the coaching staff or anyone else indicated why Spector was starting instead of Williams?  Does Williams still have a lingering injury?  

 

I know opinions vary on a lot of topics on this site and elsewhere (it's ok, kinda fun with all the highly engaged fans), but I don't think I'm stepping out too far on a limb to say that Williams is better than Spector.  My not so hot take might be Spector is in the running for least effective player on a not too effective defense lately...

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I was questioning it as well.  Maybe they had him on a snap count because he was coming back from his injury and was finally forced to play more when Spector got hurt.

 

Spector was awful.  Would have rather had them playing Buffalo Joe.

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McDermott said in the presser both of them were nicked up and with Milano out they wanted Spector to play run downs and Williams to play 3rd downs. 
 

Then Spector couldn’t go and Williams came on the field full time. I saw Andreessen get a snap too and looked like he was in on the tackle 

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Williams said he was playing hurt after the game but played more after Spector went down.  Williams was wearing a brace that restricted his movement.  Said it made life difficult, but "you gotta ball out."

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Dorian was wearing a Gronk-style elbow brace, so it must be in pretty bad shape. But if he can keep playing in it as well as he did yesterday, he's our 2nd best LB.

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They were both hurt and sharing the load per McD. 

 

Spector sucked in coverage but I am bot buying into the "game turned when Williams came in" narrative. He was pretty ropey in coverage too. Other than Elam nobody gave up more yards.

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

They were both hurt and sharing the load per McD. 

 

Spector sucked in coverage but I am bot buying into the "game turned when Williams came in" narrative. He was pretty ropey in coverage too. Other than Elam nobody gave up more yards.


If Williams and Spector are both fully healthy and Milano can’t go….who goes in?  

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Seems like they weren't scared enough of the NE passing game to force start Williams with the playoffs looming. A little concerned that Spector is made of glass and hopefully ulo will be ready next year or we may need a free agent reserve/draft pick to provide some depth.

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2 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Seems like they weren't scared enough of the NE passing game to force start Williams with the playoffs looming. A little concerned that Spector is made of glass and hopefully ulo will be ready next year or we may need a free agent reserve/draft pick to provide some depth.

If Spector is forced into a meaningful playoff role I think it’s over for us anyway…he’s just free yards in coverage 

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McDermott said the plan was to rotate Dorian and Specter because Dorian's elbow was not 100% and they didn't want to push it.

 

The more honest answer is "we can take the Patriots down with our B squad, so don't push it."

 

Nearly backfired!

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48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

They were both hurt and sharing the load per McD. 

 

Spector sucked in coverage but I am bot buying into the "game turned when Williams came in" narrative. He was pretty ropey in coverage too. Other than Elam nobody gave up more yards.

Williams is not much better in coverage but Spector is useless in every area and Williams is pretty good at everything else.  Feels like there’s a massive difference between those two guys talent wise to me  

 

that’s the big problem with Spector for me there’s just nothing he’s even halfway decent at so he’s exploited by literally anything the opponent wants to do.  If he was terrible in coverage but pretty solid in run support things would not be anywhere near as bad with him in there.  

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30 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Williams is not much better in coverage but Spector is useless in every area and Williams is pretty good at everything else.  Feels like there’s a massive difference between those two guys talent wise to me  

 

that’s the big problem with Spector for me there’s just nothing he’s even halfway decent at so he’s exploited by literally anything the opponent wants to do.  If he was terrible in coverage but pretty solid in run support things would not be anywhere near as bad with him in there.  

 

Oh I'm not disagreeing with that. I just take issue with the "game turned on Williams coming in" narrative. 

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Oh I'm not disagreeing with that. I just take issue with the "game turned on Williams coming in" narrative. 

 

Well, that's because it mostly turned when Cook came in. But the Defense definitely improved when Williams came in for Spector.

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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Well, that's because it mostly turned when Cook came in. But the Defense definitely improved when Williams came in for Spector.

 

Correlation not causation. In coverage he struggled too.

 

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