Von Miller

[Savage]

Just now, buffaloboyinATL said:

As the late, great Toby Keith once said “I ain’t as good as I once was, but I’m good once, as I ever was”. That is all I ask at this point.
 

Make a play that matters. I still believe he can. 

I loved the video of that song!!

 

 

[Gugny]

9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He's a Process Guy!

 

 

Yeah, he’s in the process of making a ton of money for doing very little. 

[SoCal Deek]

25 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Von played a good game. Lot of pressures. Needs to close the door and finish with some sacks.

That would require him to turn. He can’t. 

[Savage]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

That would require him to turn. He can’t. 

What good game?

 

[US Egg]

Guess that he was noticeable counts for something. 

[SoMAn]

1 hour ago, Savage said:

 

he’s slow, can’t turn the edge, and completely dogs it when he is slightly out of the play.

 

yes, yes, and yes.  Exactly as I see his play. It's not as if he's an every down player where he just needs a breather. He's done.

 

[H2o]

32 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is all wrong. They forgot the greatest Bills player and his rating yesterday:

 

Kaiir Elam - HOF (no number can quantify) 

[notpolian]

I almost went into shock when he actually made a spin move yesterday.  It worked for at least a pressure anyway.  I hadn't thought about the obvious point someone brought up about not being able to bend with the lingering effects of his knee injury.  That's a major issue.  

[TheWeatherMan]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

He had quick pressure on several plays yesterday...seems like you have decided what you want to see and nothing will change your mind from seeing it.

This statement goes both ways.  

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 hour ago, Savage said:

Gassed?

 

if he gets gassed playing the amount he does, then another reason he shouldn’t be on the field.

Dude,

 

he blows.

 

quick pressure means nothing.

 

Results are what matters.

 

don’t confuse a minuscule bit of effort with results.

 

not just minuscule effort, but minuscule ability / agility at this point.

 

stick a fork in him, he’s done.

 

 

We get it  already, how many ways/times you going to blast him?

Edited yesterday at 06:21 PM by RoyBatty is alive

[Magox]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

He had quick pressure on several plays yesterday...seems like you have decided what you want to see and nothing will change your mind from seeing it.

 

He led the team with 6 pass pressures.

 

Don't bother, facts don't matter to these people.

 

Apparently a 30% pass pressure rate isn't a good game lol

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, Savage said:

Gassed?

 

if he gets gassed playing the amount he does, then another reason he shouldn’t be on the field.

Dude,

 

he blows.

 

quick pressure means nothing.

 

Results are what matters.

 

don’t confuse a minuscule bit of effort with results.

 

not just minuscule effort, but minuscule ability / agility at this point.

 

stick a fork in him, he’s done.

 

 

Does that extend to RBs that have to come out after one or two carries? Or WRs that come out for a break after a 10 yard gain? 

 

If you watch football you may notice this occurs quite frequently with Bills players and many other players.  Should they not be on the field either?

 

I get it you don't like Von. But he is human. Every play is like putting their body through a mini car wreck. There is no DL in the NFL that goes 100% every snap they are in. Even the TJ Watts of the world.

 

Also, quick pressure means a lot. Many times it causes the QB to have to get rid of the ball early and a WR not complete his timing route. It's directly responsible for winning a down. 

 

And with QBs that are so good at throwing out of a sack these days, quick pressure is the most effective way to influence a play. 

 

There's more to football than the box score.

Edited yesterday at 06:27 PM by BuffaloBillyG

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

This statement goes both ways.  

 

I guess I'm not the only one then...

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

I guess I'm not the only one then...

 

 

 

I like looking at PFF data but I don’t always agree with them. I thought Von was bad.

[TheWeatherMan]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I guess I'm not the only one then...

 

 

 

Really…PFF??  The same stat computation that frequently rates Josh as one of the worst QBs on the league?  Come on dude, you’re better than that.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

That would require him to turn. He can’t. 

Exactly. He doesn’t have that explosive lateral movement anymore to finish once he beats the OT. 
 

I don’t think he’s mentally sharp anymore either. He gave up contained on a play and that was something that would never happen to him.

[Savage]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Does that extend to RBs that have to come out after one or two carries? Or WRs that come out for a break after a 10 yard gain? 

 

If you watch football you may notice this occurs quite frequently with Bills players and many other players.  Should they not be on the field either?

 

I get it you don't like Von. But he is human. Every play is like putting their body through a mini car wreck. There is no DL in the NFL that goes 100% every snap they are in. Even the TJ Watts of the world.

 

Also, quick pressure means a lot. Many times it causes the QB to have to get rid of the ball early and a WR not complete his timing route. It's directly responsible for winning a down. 

 

And with QBs that are so good at throwing out of a sack these days, quick pressure is the most effective way to influence a play. 

 

There's more to football than the box score.

I’m not a fan of rotation on the DL.

 

 

[HOUSE]

He is resting, wait till the playoffs.

That is the reason he is on the roster.

Would 3 sacks against NE make you happy?

 

[Savage]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 

Von Miller had an 80+ pff grade and 6 pressures...

He had multiple pressures where he completely blew by the tackle. 

 

 

 

 

And,

 

is that good or bad??

 

if he blew by the tackle, then I’m assuming he was out of the play.

 

 

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

He didn't dominate. Was one of his better games though. He had some pressure. I still think he is washed.

I agree with your assessment of his play yesterday, but I think we are just seeing him rounding into form. Form. Yesterday was his best game of the season. He had a nice spin move and some good pressures. I think the best is yet to come.