Will He Reinvent Himself: Coach Sean McDermott

[DCofNC]

On 12/23/2024 at 12:11 PM, Boatdrinks said:

I don’t think it’s the scheme. When the Bills D is playing badly, I’m seeing guys just flat out getting beat. That’s not scheme, it’s a lack of talent. 

The scheme puts the guys in the position.  The scheme dictates certain “types” of guys to play the positions.  They have consistently tried to ram square pegs into round holes to fill the scheme needs instead of playing to talents, so I’m going to go right ahead and disagree.  The scheme is the issue and the inability/unwillingness to even try something else is an issue.   The D line was built on the premise of rotating guys, until Von came and said “I can’t play half the time and be effective”.  So now they don’t rotate and the Smurfs gets tired and run over.   You made a change to suit a guy that’s useless and refuse to adapt to the players you have.  Meanwhile the much maligned O coordinator, who fans think has zero creativity, takes another OL and puts them at TE to make the run game work bc his TEs can’t do what he wants.  So where exactly does the buck stop?  
 

Does this team have talent on the D?  Not much.  Who wanted the players they have?  I’m not sure .  Whose job is it to maximize what they have?  That I know.   Who’s not getting much from the talent?  That I know.  Who seems to always make the wrong call in key moments in big games.. again.. 

Edited December 27, 2024 by DCofNC

[TheWeatherMan]

McD hasn’t reinvented himself since 13 seconds, what makes anyone think he will ever concede that his zone d doesn’t work against quality passers with quality OC’s? Only chance we have on winning in the playoffs is for the offense to put up 35+ points.  

[LABILLBACKER]

30 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

McD hasn’t reinvented himself since 13 seconds, what makes anyone think he will ever concede that his zone d doesn’t work against quality passers with quality OC’s? Only chance we have on winning in the playoffs is for the offense to put up 35+ points.  

We all know McDermott is stubborn.  It's his way or the highway. And I think it's fair to say Josh's talents have been wasted these last few years.  I don't see Sean ever changing his scheme. Yes I'd love a dominant 1T or pass rusher. But his scouts & gm have never found one. And without a front 4 push, his zone falls apart. If you're waiting for him to reinvent himself, you'll be waiting for an eternity. 

 

My dream team coaching staff would be:

Ben Johnson  HC

Brian Daboll   OC

Jim Schwartz  DC

Dave Flipp  ST

....Brady will likely be gone and Daboll will be out of NYG.

[DCofNC]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We all know McDermott is stubborn.  It's his way or the highway. And I think it's fair to say Josh's talents have been wasted these last few years.  I don't see Sean ever changing his scheme. Yes I'd love a dominant 1T or pass rusher. But his scouts & gm have never found one. And without a front 4 push, his zone falls apart. If you're waiting for him to reinvent himself, you'll be waiting for an eternity. 

 

My dream team coaching staff would be:

Ben Johnson  HC

Brian Daboll   OC

Jim Schwartz  DC

Dave Flipp  ST

....Brady will likely be gone and Daboll will be out of NYG.

I’ll pass on Daboll, let Johnson bring his own guy and preferably have him retain the play calling duties anyway.  The rest, I’m all in.

[Harold Jackson]

He can't reinvent that he worked for Reid for a decade

[BearNorth]

Cinci this season is the current shining example of investing nearly all your assets on the offensive side of the ball, and guess what happens - you have great offensive stats but have trouble winning games.  Cinci has not beaten a single team in the top 20, their wins have all come against the bottom 1/3 of the league.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

I’ll pass on Daboll, let Johnson bring his own guy and preferably have him retain the play calling duties anyway.  The rest, I’m all in.

As long as we land Ben, I wouldn't be devastated not having Daboll.  And you're right, he'd probably be calling his own plays anyway like Reid.

[HappyDays]

43 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Cinci this season is the current shining example of investing nearly all your assets on the offensive side of the ball, and guess what happens - you have great offensive stats but have trouble winning games.  Cinci has not beaten a single team in the top 20, their wins have all come against the bottom 1/3 of the league.

 

Does that make us the shining example of investing a ton of resources in the DL, and still having league-worst defensive stats at various times over the years?

[BearNorth]

23 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Does that make us the shining example of investing a ton of resources in the DL, and still having league-worst defensive stats at various times over the years?

That question is probably on the mind of many Bills fans, considering in 2024 we currently have a middle of the pack defense.

[LABILLBACKER]

56 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

That question is probably on the mind of many Bills fans, considering in 2024 we currently have a middle of the pack defense.

We're worse than middle of the pack.

21st in sacks

23rd  total yards allowed 

25th in passing yards

29th in 3rd down % 

....we can't get off the field to save our lives. If it wasn't for our takeaways we'd be terrible defensively. 

Edited December 27, 2024 by LABILLBACKER

[Solomon Grundy]

On 12/23/2024 at 11:23 AM, billsherd said:

I think they will have something little different for playoffs this year if they have all top three LB and secondary in tact. 

🙏🙏

[colin]

In the 2018/9 super bowl, last of the New England dynasty, they beat the rams and the Rams were like 1 or 2 of 12+ on third down.  The Rams had a nearly equal o to what they have now, Goff instead of staffy, prime cupp, complimentary guys, and a sick ol and power backs.  They had just monsters on d, Donald and suh in the gut was like a Godzilla King Kong team up.

 

Bill cheater figured he had no answer to the stretch zone and play action system w all the rollouts and cutbacks with his usual d, so he went big nickel and put on a bear front (kinda like what Baltimore did vs us). McVey had no answer and the pats stole one.

 

MCD has occasionally shown a change up, usually it means disguising coverage out of similar formations, the odd zone blitz/rush, or totally selling out to stop either the pass or the run.  The wind tunnel game vs Baltimore was the only playoff win where a move against type showed up on D.  If he doesn't show he can make something happen this playoff, then any argument that he's not a happy clappy schottenheimer is DOA.

 

He strikes me as a guy who lets the perfect be the enemy of the good, not with respect to risking it all to get those last 5% points of improvement, but based on his mental map of what an unacceptable mistake is.  13 seconds and AJ Kline starting over Williams (who when healthy has been about our best lb all season) shows to me he'd much rather lose whole not allowing a change that risks a deep pass completion than win and make a change.