Week 18 Saturday Games

[djp14150]

2 minutes ago, mannc said:

I don’t remember the NFL ever having Saturday games on the last week of the season…

it’s been going onnthr past fewvyears

 

last year  PIT-BAL and HOU-IND was on Saturday 

22 was  chiefs- raiders ( top seed) snd titans-jags ( for divisio)

21+KC-DEN, DAL-PHL

 

[Buffalo03]

20 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Agred

 

the thing I’m unsure about are the new rules with moving games between networks.

 

You’d ideally have PIT and BAL play on opposite networks with div st stake. Same with TB and WAS for a WC spot.

They do.

 

it depends on what happens week 17.

 

the only games eliminated from going anywhere special is SF-AZ both are eliminated.

HOU game can matter in seeding

The Broncos are win and in at any point in their next 2 games. The Colts, Dolphins and Bengals have to win out. The Broncos can lose this Saturday to the Bengals. And all they would have to do is beat the Chiefs in week 18 and they are in. The Dolphins, Colts, Bengals need to win and have other things happen. Come Sunday, those games could be completely pointless. The Chiefs vs Broncos game is more important than any of those games if the Broncos lose to the Bengals on Saturday 

 

Edited yesterday at 05:29 PM by Buffalo03

[WotAGuy]

Hoping they flex the Chiefs game to Friday after Christmas. Sure it’s a 48-hour turnaround, but Taylor leaves for Cabo Friday evening. America needs to see her lipstick face in the suite. 

[Buffalo03]

15 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

So you don’t think the Broncos could lose to the Bengals this week, and Indy to beat the Giants?  That’s all it takes for Indy to be live heading into Week 18.

The Broncos have the head to head on the Colts and are a game ahead. They need to win just one game. Even if the Broncos lose out and Colts win out, the Broncos get in over them at 9-8. They have the head to head

12 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Indy just has the Giants and Jags to play. They will be favored in both. Denver, OTOH, has Cincy and KC. If they lose both, they and Indy are tied at 9-8 and Indy has the tie breaker. Indy has a good shot at making it.

 

Yes, they've had them a number of seasons now. Started in 2021. See  Week 18's of the scheduling archives here at the bottom of the page:

 

https://506sports.com/nfl/index-m.php

Indy doesn't have the tie breaker if it's just the 2 of them. The Broncos beat them head to head last week 

[strive_for_five_guy]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

The Broncos have the head to head on the Colts and are a game ahead. They need to win just one game. Even if the Broncos lose out and Colts win out, the Broncos get in over them at 9-8. They have the head to head

Right, but if Bengals also beat the Steelers in Week 18, then Colts win the tiebreaker.  If the Chiefs/Broncos game is going to determine the fate of AFC WC and maybe 1 seed, it will either be Sunday at 4:25 or the Sunday night game.  Not Saturday.

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Right, but if Bengals also beat the Steelers in Week 18, then Colts win the tiebreaker.  If the Chiefs/Broncos game is going to determine the fate of AFC WC and maybe 1 seed, it will either be Sunday at 4:25 or the Sunday night game.  Not Saturday.

I think the fact that the Broncos are win and in over the next 2 weeks. If they lose to the Bengals, I still they they would be the better pick between them and Indy. Indy needs to have numerous things happen even with a Broncos loss. A Broncos win in week 18 or a shot at it seems more enticing than putting a team in that slot that has to have numerous things happen

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I think the fact that the Broncos are win and in over the next 2 weeks. If they lose to the Bengals, I still they they would be the better pick between them and Indy. Indy needs to have numerous things happen even with a Broncos loss. A Broncos win in week 18 or a shot at it seems more enticing than putting a team in that slot that has to have numerous things happen

Are you still talking the Saturday night slot for Chiefs/Broncos?  Why would the NFL put that game on Saturday night, if the outcome takes away any drama for the AFC WC spot on Sunday?  The Colts game could be meaningless the next day then, which the NFL and viewers don’t want.

[DrBob806]

4 hours ago, f0neguy said:

If the Steelers beat the Chiefs and the Bills beat the Jets this week then the Bills and Chiefs games will be at the same time on the final weekend.  That way both teams have to play to win, nobody gets a break.

Well thought out post, congrats.

 

Seems like every time the Chiefs are mentioned it incites rage ( in just about every fan base). 

[chongli]

22 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

 

Indy doesn't have the tie breaker if it's just the 2 of them. The Broncos beat them head to head last week 

 

Not so fast. If Miami also finishes 9-8 (they have Cleveland and the Jets left), the H2H win of Denver over Indy does not apply in a 3-way tie. In that case, indy has the better conference record and wins out, as well as a H2H win over Miami (after Denver is booted out of the 3-way tie in the  tiebreaker).

Edited yesterday at 05:55 PM by chongli

[Buffalo03]

3 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Are you still talking the Saturday night slot for Chiefs/Broncos?  Why would the NFL put that game on Saturday night, if the outcome takes away any drama for the AFC WC spot on Sunday?  The Colts game could be meaningless the next day then, which the NFL and viewers don’t want.

I'm saying because the Broncos are a win and in situation which is typically what the NFL looks for in those Saturday games. Honestly, the NFL needs some games to be played at 1pm on Sunday. Every game but one has at least one team in a playoff scenario. But they aren't only gonna have 2 1pm games on Sunday. The Colts, Bengals, Dolphins all have a hard path to get in. Denver wins, they're in. It's the most enticing for a Saturday night matchup. I even thought, maybe they will do Seahawks vs Rams. But according to the playoff machine, if the Rams beat the Cardinals on Sunday, no matter what the Seahawks do the next 2 games, that game between them won't matter. So, that eliminates that game. It will be interesting but I definitely think there is a possibility it can be that game

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

I'm saying because the Broncos are a win and in situation which is typically what the NFL looks for in those Saturday games. Honestly, the NFL needs some games to be played at 1pm on Sunday. Every game but one has at least one team in a playoff scenario. But they aren't only gonna have 2 1pm games on Sunday. The Colts, Bengals, Dolphins all have a hard path to get in. Denver wins, they're in. It's the most enticing for a Saturday night matchup. I even thought, maybe they will do Seahawks vs Rams. But according to the playoff machine, if the Rams beat the Cardinals on Sunday, no matter what the Seahawks do the next 2 games, that game between them won't matter. So, that eliminates that game. It will be interesting but I definitely think there is a possibility it can be that game

Ok, maybe you don’t understand days of the week then.  Sunday night is when the NFL likes the win and you’re in situation, it’s way more dramatic than if it’s on Saturday night BEFORE all the other games are played.

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, chongli said:

 

Not so fast. If Miami also finished 9-8 (they have Cleveland and the Jets left), the h2h win of Denver over Indy does not apply in a 3-way tie. In that case, indy has the better conference record and wins out..

Yes, a 3 way tie. Not just if it's between the Broncos and Colts. It's the Broncos. But the Broncos are win and in. I don't think they are gonna pick any team that needs to win out and have a ton of other scenarios happen for the Saturday game. I think they want a win and in or 1 seed/division scenario. The Broncos game gives them both

1 minute ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Ok, maybe you don’t understand days of the week then.  Sunday night is when the NFL likes the win and you’re in situation, it’s way more dramatic than if it’s on Saturday night BEFORE all the other games are played.

I'm well aware of how the NFL likes to do it. But I think Unless one of the Vikings or Lions lose this week thay that will be the SNF game. Last year the NFL picked 2 win and in games that were played on Saturday. They did Steelers vs Ravens. If the Steelers lost, they would have been eliminated. They won because the Ravens rested starters. The Saturday night game was Texans at Colts which was also win and in because the winner of that game won the AFC South. The Texans beat them and eliminated the Colts. They were both elimination games

[chongli]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Yes, a 3 way tie. Not just if it's between the Broncos and Colts. It's the Broncos. But the Broncos are win and in. I don't think they are gonna pick any team that needs to win out and have a ton of other scenarios happen for the Saturday game. I think they want a win and in or 1 seed/division scenario. The Broncos game gives them both

 

We have to see what the Chargers do first. Again, the NFL doesn't want significant advantages for any team. Let's see the results of Week 17 first.

 

Edited yesterday at 06:11 PM by chongli

[strive_for_five_guy]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I'm well aware of how the NFL likes to do it. But I think Unless one of the Vikings or Lions lose this week thay that will be the SNF game. Last year the NFL picked 2 win and in games that were played on Saturday. They did Steelers vs Ravens. If the Steelers lost, they would have been eliminated. They won because the Ravens rested starters. The Saturday night game was Texans at Colts which was also win and in because the winner of that game won the AFC South. The Texans beat them and eliminated the Colts. They were both elimination games

The NFL likes the Sunday night to be win and in even more.  Last year it just so happened there were multiple win and in games.  Yes, Vikings/Lions is a great matchup and should have playoff implications, but it won’t be win and in.  Probably a better Saturday night matchup.

[Buffalo03]

14 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

The NFL likes the Sunday night to be win and in even more.  Last year it just so happened there were multiple win and in games.  Yes, Vikings/Lions is a great matchup and should have playoff implications, but it won’t be win and in.  Probably a better Saturday night matchup.

It won't be win and in but the NFL doesn't always do win and in for the SNF. They will if it's a really good one. But if both teams are 14-2 going into that game, that game will determine who wins the NFC North and the number 1 seed in the NFC as well. That will definitely be the game of the week. No way that is not SNF if it works out like that

[strive_for_five_guy]

21 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

It won't be win and in but the NFL doesn't always do win and in for the SNF. They will if it's a really good one. But if both teams are 14-2 going into that game, that game will determine who wins the NFC North and the number 1 seed in the NFC as well. That will definitely be the game of the week. No way that is not SNF if it works out like that

We will see.  As for Saturday night though, I don’t see a scenario where the Chiefs/Broncos make it there.  Yes it could be win and in, but the outcome potentially impacts a few other teams, in which case the NFL won’t place the game BEFORE those other games.  Texans/Colts was win and in last year, but the outcome didn’t impact any other teams.

[Buffalo03]

5 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

We will see.  As for Saturday night though, I don’t see a scenario where the Chiefs/Broncos make it there.  Yes it could be win and in, but the outcome potentially impacts a few other teams, in which case the NFL won’t place the game BEFORE those other games.  Texans/Colts was win and in last year, but the outcome didn’t impact any other teams.

Yeah, but I'd Denver wins, none of those other games matter. Most of the them Dolphins/Jets, Colts/Jags, Panthers/Falcons, some of these games will be Sunday 1pm games. If the Chiefs win Wednesday, none of this matters. If they lose, Denver loses and Bills win, I think Bills vs Patriots and Chiefs at Broncos will be 2 games considered for Saturday. 

[Gregg]

NFL on X: "🚨 WEEK 17 SCHEDULE FLEX 🚨 @packers vs. @Vikings has been moved to 4:25pm ET on FOX. @dallascowboys vs. @Eagles will be played at 1pm ET on FOX. https://t.co/1UMvglBrzl" / X

[strive_for_five_guy]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Yeah, but I'd Denver wins, none of those other games matter. Most of the them Dolphins/Jets, Colts/Jags, Panthers/Falcons, some of these games will be Sunday 1pm games. If the Chiefs win Wednesday, none of this matters. If they lose, Denver loses and Bills win, I think Bills vs Patriots and Chiefs at Broncos will be 2 games considered for Saturday. 

Right, that is exactly why the Broncos/Chiefs game won’t be on Saturday.  You’re giving the reason why that game needs to be the same time or AFTER those other games, so I don’t understand why you keep insisting it could be on Saturday night.

[chongli]

All this doubling down on an event that won't happen reminds me of that thread last year where the poster kept insisting that an unlikely possibility meant it was likely somehow (or something like that) and that his title was correct. "the likely possibility the Bills miss the playoffs" or something to that effect.

Edited 22 hours ago by chongli