Interesting tidbit...Allen is the only player on offense with a TO

[Big Turk]

Not sure how many times this has happened before in NFL history, I am sure it has happened but also pretty sure it's rare...

 

Nobody on the offense outside of Allen has a turnover this year, meaning we have no lost fumbles on the year other than Allen's two...one versus the Cards in the first game and one against Baltimore on that crazy trick play that never should have been called.

 

Almost had two yesterday but we managed to recover both...

 

Thought it is really interesting considering you watch players fumble all the time in other games but the Bills have not done so yet...

Edited yesterday at 01:24 PM by Big Turk

[DCofNC]

Oh you just HAD to say it, huh?

[CincyBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Not sure how many times this has happened before in NFL history, I am sure it has happened but also pretty sure it's rare...

 

Nobody on the offense outside of Allen has a turnover this year, meaning we have no lost fumbles on the year other than Allen's two...one versus the Cards in the first game and one against Baltimore on that crazy trick play that never should have been called.

 

Almost had two yesterday but we managed to recover both...

 

Thought it is really interesting considering you watch players fumble all the time in other games but the Bills have not done so yet...

And only having 8 TO's for as many times as Allen puts the ball in play is flat out extraordinary.  It's the #1 reason the Bills are 12 -3 and close to locking up at minimum a #2 seed.

 

 

[Drey]

If it was up to me, Keon would be getting credit for that interception that should have been a touchdown.

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

And only having 8 TO's for as many times as Allen puts the ball in play is flat out extraordinary.  It's the #1 reason the Bills are 12 -3 and close to locking up at minimum a #2 seed.

 

 

 

Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches

 

Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD).

 

Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. 

[Goin Breakdown]

He's a bum. Time to look into the draft. 

[Process]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches

 

Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD).

 

Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. 

No, he doesn't 

[Big Turk]

10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches

 

Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD).

 

Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. 

 

That's incorrect.  Allen might have 4 fumbles total, but he has only lost 2.  The Bills as a team only have 8 TO's.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Joe Brady deserves some MAJOR flowers. 

[billsherd]

All the jinx threads are out on monday after a win. 😂

[Captain Hindsight]

1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Joe Brady deserves some MAJOR flowers. 

[CincyBillsFan]

30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches

 

Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD).

 

Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. 

According to Stat Muse and ESPN Allen has only lost TWO fumbles giving him a total of 8 TO's.

 

While Jackson is aggressive and puts the ball in danger to make big plays Herbert is way to conservative and I pay little attention to the value of his having only 5 TO's.  The Chargers have lost 6 games this season and Herbert has lost the only playoff game he was in. IMO he is more concerned about throwing INT's then winning football games.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Process said:

No, he doesn't 

 

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

That's incorrect.  Allen might have 4 fumbles total, but he has only lost 2.  The Bills as a team only have 8 TO's.

 

58 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

According to Stat Muse and ESPN Allen has only lost TWO fumbles giving him a total of 8 TO's.

 

While Jackson is aggressive and puts the ball in danger to make big plays Herbert is way to conservative and I pay little attention to the value of his having only 5 TO's.  The Chargers have lost 6 games this season and Herbert has lost the only playoff game he was in. IMO he is more concerned about throwing INT's then winning football games.

 

 

 

 

 

Pro Football Reference has him at 5 fumbles 1 recovered

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm#:~:text=Def Interceptions,Per-Game Stats

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

 

Pro Football Reference has him at 5 fumbles 1 recovered

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm#:~:text=Def Interceptions,Per-Game Stats

They are wrong then- team has 8 total TO

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

They are wrong then- team has 8 total TO

 

I go with PFR over "statmuse" for football data

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

 

Pro Football Reference has him at 5 fumbles 1 recovered

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm#:~:text=Def Interceptions,Per-Game Stats

 

doesn't even make sense because if you click in the individual boxscores of the Arizona and Baltimore games they have Allen as having a Fumble and a Fumble Lost in each one, and those are the only TO's that aren't INT's on the season.

Edited yesterday at 05:27 PM by Big Turk

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I go with PFR over "statmuse" for football data

Your still wrong- why argue the point when literally everywhere else agreed the Bills have 8 TO? 

[CincyBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I go with PFR over "statmuse" for football data

How about the NFL.com and ESPN?  PFR is wrong here, plain & simple.

 

 

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches

 

Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD).

 

Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. 

 

That's an interesting emphasis considering you're claiming he has exactly one fewer turnover. 

 

Can we apply the same hyperbole if everyone else is correct and Allen has one fewer turnover than Jackson?

[Mr. WEO]

17 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

Your still wrong- why argue the point when literally everywhere else agreed the Bills have 8 TO? 

 

15 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

How about the NFL.com and ESPN?  PFR is wrong here, plain & simple.

 

 

 

Ask to speak with the manager

 

10 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

That's an interesting emphasis considering you're claiming he has exactly one fewer turnover. 

 

Can we apply the same hyperbole if everyone else is correct and Allen has one fewer turnover than Jackson?

 

The point was that it is a great stat for sure, but not exactly unique as another guy has similar  low turnover rate with same touches.