Big Turk Posted Monday at 12:40 PM Posted Monday at 12:40 PM (edited) Not sure how many times this has happened before in NFL history, I am sure it has happened but also pretty sure it's rare... Nobody on the offense outside of Allen has a turnover this year, meaning we have no lost fumbles on the year other than Allen's two...one versus the Cards in the first game and one against Baltimore on that crazy trick play that never should have been called. Almost had two yesterday but we managed to recover both... Thought it is really interesting considering you watch players fumble all the time in other games but the Bills have not done so yet... Edited Monday at 01:24 PM by Big Turk 3 2 2 Quote
DCofNC Posted Monday at 02:45 PM Posted Monday at 02:45 PM Oh you just HAD to say it, huh? 1 1 4 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted Monday at 03:17 PM Posted Monday at 03:17 PM 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: Not sure how many times this has happened before in NFL history, I am sure it has happened but also pretty sure it's rare... Nobody on the offense outside of Allen has a turnover this year, meaning we have no lost fumbles on the year other than Allen's two...one versus the Cards in the first game and one against Baltimore on that crazy trick play that never should have been called. Almost had two yesterday but we managed to recover both... Thought it is really interesting considering you watch players fumble all the time in other games but the Bills have not done so yet... And only having 8 TO's for as many times as Allen puts the ball in play is flat out extraordinary. It's the #1 reason the Bills are 12 -3 and close to locking up at minimum a #2 seed. 2 Quote
Drey Posted Monday at 03:20 PM Posted Monday at 03:20 PM If it was up to me, Keon would be getting credit for that interception that should have been a touchdown. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Monday at 03:43 PM Posted Monday at 03:43 PM 3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: And only having 8 TO's for as many times as Allen puts the ball in play is flat out extraordinary. It's the #1 reason the Bills are 12 -3 and close to locking up at minimum a #2 seed. Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD). Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. 2 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted Monday at 03:47 PM Posted Monday at 03:47 PM He's a bum. Time to look into the draft. Quote
Process Posted Monday at 03:52 PM Posted Monday at 03:52 PM 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD). Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. No, he doesn't 1 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Author Posted Monday at 03:54 PM 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD). Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. That's incorrect. Allen might have 4 fumbles total, but he has only lost 2. The Bills as a team only have 8 TO's. 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted Monday at 03:56 PM Posted Monday at 03:56 PM Joe Brady deserves some MAJOR flowers. 1 1 Quote
billsherd Posted Monday at 03:58 PM Posted Monday at 03:58 PM All the jinx threads are out on monday after a win. 😂 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted Monday at 03:58 PM Posted Monday at 03:58 PM 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Joe Brady deserves some MAJOR flowers. Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted Monday at 04:18 PM Posted Monday at 04:18 PM 30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD). Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. According to Stat Muse and ESPN Allen has only lost TWO fumbles giving him a total of 8 TO's. While Jackson is aggressive and puts the ball in danger to make big plays Herbert is way to conservative and I pay little attention to the value of his having only 5 TO's. The Chargers have lost 6 games this season and Herbert has lost the only playoff game he was in. IMO he is more concerned about throwing INT's then winning football games. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Monday at 05:20 PM Posted Monday at 05:20 PM 1 hour ago, Process said: No, he doesn't 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: That's incorrect. Allen might have 4 fumbles total, but he has only lost 2. The Bills as a team only have 8 TO's. 58 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: According to Stat Muse and ESPN Allen has only lost TWO fumbles giving him a total of 8 TO's. While Jackson is aggressive and puts the ball in danger to make big plays Herbert is way to conservative and I pay little attention to the value of his having only 5 TO's. The Chargers have lost 6 games this season and Herbert has lost the only playoff game he was in. IMO he is more concerned about throwing INT's then winning football games. Pro Football Reference has him at 5 fumbles 1 recovered https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm#:~:text=Def Interceptions,Per-Game Stats Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted Monday at 05:23 PM Posted Monday at 05:23 PM 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Pro Football Reference has him at 5 fumbles 1 recovered https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm#:~:text=Def Interceptions,Per-Game Stats They are wrong then- team has 8 total TO 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Monday at 05:25 PM Posted Monday at 05:25 PM 1 minute ago, Orlando Buffalo said: They are wrong then- team has 8 total TO I go with PFR over "statmuse" for football data Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 05:26 PM Author Posted Monday at 05:26 PM (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Pro Football Reference has him at 5 fumbles 1 recovered https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm#:~:text=Def Interceptions,Per-Game Stats doesn't even make sense because if you click in the individual boxscores of the Arizona and Baltimore games they have Allen as having a Fumble and a Fumble Lost in each one, and those are the only TO's that aren't INT's on the season. Edited Monday at 05:27 PM by Big Turk 1 Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted Monday at 05:27 PM Posted Monday at 05:27 PM 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: I go with PFR over "statmuse" for football data Your still wrong- why argue the point when literally everywhere else agreed the Bills have 8 TO? 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted Monday at 05:29 PM Posted Monday at 05:29 PM 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I go with PFR over "statmuse" for football data How about the NFL.com and ESPN? PFR is wrong here, plain & simple. Quote
NickelCity Posted Monday at 05:34 PM Posted Monday at 05:34 PM 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Allen has 6 INT, 4 fumbles lost (10 TO) in 553 touches Jackson has only 9 TOs in 553 touches (4395 all yards, 36 passing TD, 5 rushing TD). Herbert has 5 TO in 492 touches. That's an interesting emphasis considering you're claiming he has exactly one fewer turnover. Can we apply the same hyperbole if everyone else is correct and Allen has one fewer turnover than Jackson? 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Monday at 05:46 PM Posted Monday at 05:46 PM 17 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Your still wrong- why argue the point when literally everywhere else agreed the Bills have 8 TO? 15 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: How about the NFL.com and ESPN? PFR is wrong here, plain & simple. Ask to speak with the manager 10 minutes ago, NickelCity said: That's an interesting emphasis considering you're claiming he has exactly one fewer turnover. Can we apply the same hyperbole if everyone else is correct and Allen has one fewer turnover than Jackson? The point was that it is a great stat for sure, but not exactly unique as another guy has similar low turnover rate with same touches. Quote
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