The Bills are not going all out

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

It's definitely a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.  That's why winning today under the circumstances that we did was so important. 

Yea we were pretty much undone by LB injuries last year and i think we’re being careful not to repeat that. 

[CincyBillsFan]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

IMO they are going to get torn up by Adams and Wilson if they can't handle the Patriot's trash WRs

Maybe but then again who will be throwing them the ball?  If it's Rogers then the Bills will not be facing a run threat from the QB and their pass rush will get home or at worst hurry up the throw.  If Rogers doesn't go and it's Tyrod I don't see the Jets WR's tearing up anybody.

 

 

[Coffeesforclosers]

Honestly, we're in a good spot.

 

We can win games with the B Team, spare starters, and keep KC trotting out their starters to hold on to the 1 seed.  Seems like something worth doing if that's their strategy.

 

[Bermuda Triangle]

25 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Josh's decision making to push the ball down the field into coverage like it was October 2023 is what put Josh in harm's way.

It would help if he had receivers who were able to get open consistently.

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

It's definitely a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.  That's why winning today under the circumstances that we did was so important. 

 

Definitely.  I also believe IF the Chiefs lost yesterday, we would have seen a much different game from both game planning and 

player effort.  The player effort is just a human nature type thing.  

 

The good thing is it's all on the Chiefs, Ravens and Steelers as to how the Bills need to react going forward.

[Ralonzo]

18 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

What?  The deep shot on 3rd and 16 that was intercepted in the end zone put the ball at the one yard line.  If that isn't the definition of a highly effective pass punt I don't know what else is.

 

At the end of the 1st half Shakir should have caught that deep shot from Allen.  That would have led to 3 and maybe even 7 points right before the half.  In the 2nd half the long pass to Shakir in the end zone should have been a TD.  This is the NFL and Shakir should have caught both balls.  He had an off day, I get it, but Allen's decisions to make those throws was sound and should have led to 7 - 10 more points.

 

Talking not about those but the handful of other plays where he had an obvious answer in the flat or short over the middle but instead of being on time with it decided to pull it back and drift himself into a position where he had nothing and had to make an ultra-low percentage throw or just dirt it. Think more in terms of the 2nd and 3rd down on the 2nd series of the first drive, not the arm punt or the Shakir thing (although there was a higher percentage option available). Not that the Bills receivers were open much but when they were Allen wasn't seeing them today.

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Talking not about those but the handful of other plays where he had an obvious answer in the flat or short over the middle but instead of being on time with it decided to pull it back and drift himself into a position where he had nothing and had to make an ultra-low percentage throw or just dirt it. Think more in terms of the 2nd and 3rd down on the 2nd series of the first drive, not the arm punt or the Shakir thing (although there was a higher percentage option available). Not that the Bills receivers were open much but when they were Allen wasn't seeing them today.

After the last 4 games this is quibbling.  Allen like the rest of the team was a bit off today.  It happens.  And for the record in the NFL BOTH those Shakir misses should have been caught.  But Shakir appeared to be a bit flat like the rest of the team.

 

 

[GolfandBills]

We need more production from Kincaid and Cooper in the playoffs.  It’s puzzling to me why are almost non existent every week 

[Ralonzo]

Just now, GolfandBills said:

We need more production from Kincaid and Cooper in the playoffs.  It’s puzzling to me why are almost non existent every week 

 

Kincaid in particular, why go up and get a guy R1 and use him like in the passing game like Lee Smith on these 4 yard stick routes and lateral screens, while a LaPorta (next TE selected) is running roughshod all over the place.

[PoundingDog]

Now it gets me thinking what possible new thing they can do this late in the season. Are they practicing something not being used in today's game? The one variable I can think of is Cooper. He's the new guy and the lack of his usage is noted by a lot of people. I'm sure part of it is chemistry between him and Josh. I'd guess the other part is Brady has not figure out the best usage of Cooper. There is no "schemed open" plays for Cooper yet (like they have done for Diggs before) and we know Cooper can take a heavy load of plays. Or Cooper is just not that good.

[Sojourner]

52 minutes ago, Success said:

I like to think that, especially today.

 

As a fan - after KC won yesterday, I was kind of like "what is there to play for?"

 

Team probably feels the same.  

I don’t know which camp to put myself in as the #1 seed probably isn’t going to happen but, even if most of us deem it unlikely, KC can still drop their remaining 2 games. Pittsburgh will be playing balls to the wall on Christmas as they and Baltimore are standing at 10-5.
 

That sentiment and mindset might be better suited if they beat the Steelers as its then completely unobtainable. 
 

Do we drop the remaining 2 games and finished tied with Pittsburgh and lose the 2 seed or Baltimore and lose the slot we are in due to H2H? Who knows. What I do know is, from a team perspective, “what is there to play for?” mode shouldn’t be a thing unless KC beat Pittsburgh AND beat the Jets. 
 

We can still, even if the chances are slim, can drop out of the 2 seed. 
 

F that man. F that for all the fans who have already got tickets to see our boys in any or both of the playoff games. 
 

Sure, I’ll get my money back but it isn’t a consolation to miss out on a/multiple playoff home games because they “mailed it in” too early. 
 

 

[JerseyBills]

I didn't get that vibe in that interview.  Think Josh was just grumpy, tired honestly 

 

He didn't have the glow he usually has after wins.

 

But wouldn't be surprised if they are stashing plays 

[NickelCity]

6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

I didn't get that vibe in that interview.  Think Josh was just grumpy, tired honestly 

 

He didn't have the glow he usually has after wins.

 

But wouldn't be surprised if they are stashing plays 

 

Looked tired from the first snap. I thought he might be sick or just had a run of ***** sleep.

[DCofNC]

I look at Detroit, who shows up and balls out, rolling out new plays every week and wonder if the Bills are really being conservative or just don’t have the creative minds in the first place bc I sure haven’t seen much to make me think they have anything else in the last 5 years. 

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

57 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

Still no excuse to go out in your home stadium and play like that 

 

ya definitely hard to leave the stadium knowing your team won 🙄

[Big Blitz]

The only issue I have with this is they’re saying it.  
 

Just credit New England and move on.  
 

When you game plan for them in week 18 - if it matters - the mantra at practice should be “they came in our place and worked us; remind them who we are.”

 

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

14 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Kincaid in particular, why go up and get a guy R1 and use him like in the passing game like Lee Smith on these 4 yard stick routes and lateral screens, while a LaPorta (next TE selected) is running roughshod all over the place.

 

10 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

Now it gets me thinking what possible new thing they can do this late in the season. Are they practicing something not being used in today's game? The one variable I can think of is Cooper. He's the new guy and the lack of his usage is noted by a lot of people. I'm sure part of it is chemistry between him and Josh. I'd guess the other part is Brady has not figure out the best usage of Cooper. There is no "schemed open" plays for Cooper yet (like they have done for Diggs before) and we know Cooper can take a heavy load of plays. Or Cooper is just not that good.

 

I'm sure they are practicing some new stuff for the playoffs.

 

A bigger thing to consider is this.  I'll use Kincaid as an example.  Earlier in the season Kincaid had some good deep seam plays that

he and Josh connected on.  Haven't seen much lately.

 

If you go back through all the games, there have been some very well-designed plays that worked brilliantly.  Then you haven't seen

them again.

 

The Bills have had the division sewn up for a LONG time for all intents and purposes.  They know it's all about the playoffs and have

been saying that all year long.  I believe they got some good game plans for the playoffs.

[Big Blitz]

 

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

The only issue I have with this is they’re saying it.  
 

Just credit New England and move on.  
 

When you game plan for them in week 18 - if it matters - the mantra at practice should be “they came in our place and worked us; remind them who we are.”

 

 

 

 

BUT if they did credit NE let me know I missed the whole PC.  

[Billsfanatic8989]

It looked like there was a letdown after the Detroit game. And they overlooked New England tbh.

 

It happens. Lesson learned. 

 

It needs to be full throttle against the Jets. 

 

A) Get back momentum 

B) Get Allen the MVP

Edited Monday at 04:11 AM by Billsfanatic8989

[gonzo1105]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Am I seeing this all wrong but isn't the #2 seed worth playing for? I guess with a 2 game lead with 3 to go going into this game the thought was they could get the wins to lock that one up. 

 

And not taking the Pats that seriously seems to have worked out as even after everything went their way in the first quarter they still sort of self destructed and the Bills went on a 24 - 0 run before a very late ref assisted Pat's TD at the end.

 

We're seeing load management in action and it almost bit them in the butt.  The operative word here is "almost".

 

 

 

 

 

I think their thought is that they can win these games without having to put guys who are nicked up at risk. Hence starting the guys they started. Almost bit them but it didn't they won today.