Wow that game sucked

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I genuinely don’t understand how people think in this binary fashion.

 

As if a W or L is the only indicator that matters.

 

It’s like thinking “Drinking and driving must be okay, because I got home in one piece. W!”

 

And don’t get me wrong - you’re not alone. Many people feel this way.

 

But I certainly don’t.

 

Because I know that W’s and L’s are binary results of a small subset (60 minutes) of data against 1 particular opponent.

 

In other words, the W or the L is not indicative of how the team will play going forward. 

However… HOW they played in that W or L may be indicative of how the team will play going forward.

 

Struggling to beat a 3 win team with a rookie head coach and rookie quarterback, while your best player hurts his hand, and his most reliable receiver drops and fumbles the whole game, and the ST’s coach craps the bad, and the defense struggles…. yeah that’s not binary.

 

The team is awarded the W but how they played still matters from a standpoint of “is this team good enough to win a Super Bowl?”.

 

To hide behind “got the W” is to live with blinders on.

 

This photo is from 14 years ago. Check out what 2010 was like. 

 

[BigAl2526]

It will be interesting to see what happens in the rematch two weeks from now.  What I hope is that Brady and Babich show the ability to study New England's offense and defense and are able to nullify most of the stuff New England was able to do in this game.  It will help if they are a little healthier on defense.  Fewer phantom penalties on Buffalo would be nice too.  Lastly, the special teams need to figure out what they're supposed to do.  

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

As if a W or L is the only indicator that matters.

 

It’s like thinking “Drinking and driving must be okay, because I got home in one piece. W!”

 

That is a crazy analogy.  

 

And just to clarify how sports works.  Wins are the only indicator that matters.

[Simon]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

This photo is from 14 years ago. Check out what 2010 was like. 

 

 

You're way more handsome than I expected for an old guy 

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I genuinely don’t understand how people think in this binary fashion.

 

As if a W or L is the only indicator that matters.

 

It’s like thinking “Drinking and driving must be okay, because I got home in one piece. W!”

 

And don’t get me wrong - you’re not alone. Many people feel this way.

 

But I certainly don’t.

 

Because I know that W’s and L’s are binary results of a small subset (60 minutes) of data against 1 particular opponent.

 

In other words, the W or the L is not indicative of how the team will play going forward. 

However… HOW they played in that W or L may be indicative of how the team will play going forward.

 

Struggling to beat a 3 win team with a rookie head coach and rookie quarterback, while your best player hurts his hand, and his most reliable receiver drops and fumbles the whole game, and the ST’s coach craps the bad, and the defense struggles…. yeah that’s not binary.

 

The team is awarded the W but how they played still matters from a standpoint of “is this team good enough to win a Super Bowl?”.

 

To hide behind “got the W” is to live with blinders on.

 

Because we have watched KC essentially win games like this for 2 seasons and win the Superbowl.

 

It truly is irrelevant and as it's a week to week league, not much Carries over from one week to the next most times.

[MikePJ76]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I genuinely don’t understand how people think in this binary fashion.

 

As if a W or L is the only indicator that matters.

 

It’s like thinking “Drinking and driving must be okay, because I got home in one piece. W!”

 

And don’t get me wrong - you’re not alone. Many people feel this way.

 

But I certainly don’t.

 

Because I know that W’s and L’s are binary results of a small subset (60 minutes) of data against 1 particular opponent.

 

In other words, the W or the L is not indicative of how the team will play going forward. 

However… HOW they played in that W or L may be indicative of how the team will play going forward.

 

Struggling to beat a 3 win team with a rookie head coach and rookie quarterback, while your best player hurts his hand, and his most reliable receiver drops and fumbles the whole game, and the ST’s coach craps the bad, and the defense struggles…. yeah that’s not binary.

 

The team is awarded the W but how they played still matters from a standpoint of “is this team good enough to win a Super Bowl?”.

 

To hide behind “got the W” is to live with blinders on.

Exactly which team won the super bowl again this week?

 

Also, teams don't play the other teams record.  It's about matchups and Maye played great in the first half and made a bunch of plays.  Credit maye.

 

It's never how its always how many.

 

 

[Billl]

The Bills played a terrible game against a terrible team.  They tend to do that once a year.  The difference is that they usually lose this game.  All that matters is the result.  I promise the Eagles and Cardinals would preferred an ugly win today.  An ugly win probably sounds pretty good to the Buccaneers right about now.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Because we have watched KC essentially win games like this for 2 seasons and win the Superbowl.

 

It truly is irrelevant and as it's a week to week league, not much Carries over from one week to the next most times.

 

There were games where we "almost" beat New England when they were great. No one cared that they didn't throttle us. They walked away with a W.

[Harold Jackson]

They probably show this one on NFL network during week. Although it's a short week with holiday games.

 

Panthers game and Washington game definitely 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

There were games where we "almost" beat New England when they were great. No one cared that they didn't throttle us. They walked away with a W.

 

Yes ..we typically played one very close game where we easily "could have won" but didn't, and one blowout most seasons 

Edited 21 hours ago by Big Turk

[Einstein]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Because we have watched KC essentially win games like this for 2 seasons and win the Superbowl.

 

It truly is irrelevant and as it's a week to week league, not much Carries over from one week to the next most times.

 

From your lips to Gods ears my friend.

[notpolian]

Pats played a lot of man coverage.  We were fortunate on turnovers.  Very ugly.  But it was a W.  

[djp14150]

They are division rivals— these are usually close games in their first meeting.

 

Detroit first meeting with Chicago was very close

Cleveland beat both PIT and BAL

Vegas should have beaten KC

Carolina recently have scared teams 

13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

This photo is from 14 years ago. Check out what 2010 was like. 

 

Mid 80s were worse 

[Orlando Buffalo]

I am definitely ok with the win, division games often come closer than they should. The team looked like garbage for the first half but they won it anyways, so good enough

[PoundingDog]

The Bills are following the Chiefs foot steps. I think Mahomes won an MVP before they won a superbowl. The Chiefs traded away Hill to force Mahomes taking more leadership responsibility. The Chiefs treading waters with bad teams for majority of the season this year. And today the Bills were living on the edge with a 3 win team  ... 

[Low Positive]

23 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

They are division rivals— these are usually close games in their first meeting.

 

Detroit first meeting with Chicago was very close

Cleveland beat both PIT and BAL

Vegas should have beaten KC

Carolina recently have scared teams 

Mid 80s were worse 

2-14 baby. Kay Stevenson fired midseason only to be replaced by Hank Bullough. Running out the dried husk of mediocre QB Vince Ferragamo as a replacement for Joe Fergeson, who himself wasn't exactly Terry Bradshaw or Joe Montana. Those were the days. "Bills Mafia" wasn't a fun bunch back then. The stadium was mostly empty. Each game was like a funeral. 

[Dr.Sack]

Today’s game reminded me of 1/2 our loses to Patriots during the Brady era. IE I will take an ugly win. 

[Bad Things]

2 hours ago, buffblue said:

Didn't realize being a good fan means praising your team at all times even when their performance clearly doesn't warrant it. What a ridiculous comment 

 

Come on.

 

Here's what I said... "...there sure are a lot of miserable people here without anything good to say"

 

You're telling me that that means the same thing as "being a good fan means praising your team at all times even when their performance clearly doesn't warrant it."

 

Stop making up BS.

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Bad Things

[JohnNord]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

That game was miserable to watch.

 

- Refs willed NE into the endzone multiple times.

 

- Allen hurts his throwing hand

 

- Shakir forgot how to catch

 

- Our special teams sucks at EVERYTHING. They are bad at kickoff coverage, they can’t down a punt inside the five, and they nearly give up an onside kick for the second week in a row. 

 

- Every time we blitzed Maye, he folded like a cheap tent. He clearly could not handle the pressure. So what does Babich do in key moments? He rushes 4 and drops everyone back into a shell. WHY!? For fug sake, WHY? Make it make sense

 

 

I don’t agree with some of this.  
 

Maye beat the blitz a number of times.  I also saw Antonio Gibson pick up a blitzing Dorian Williams several times which is probably why Maye was able to find open receivers.  
 

As far as Shakir, Allen threw a great pass which went right through his hands.  He’s made that play before but it’s not the easiest catch.  The second catch in the endzone would have been a crazy grab but the defended was right there and almost came away with the ball.  So not the best day for Shakir but it’s not like he dropped an easy pass.  
 

Special teams are very bad however.  

[Kirby Jackson]

That was a pretty horrendous performance. It’s nice that over the last few years we have had some games that we all hated and the results were still a win. That’s a long way from the moral victories of the 2000’s. Nonetheless it was a pretty pitiful performance. Lots to work on but thankful it still resulted in a W.