12/22/24 GAMEDAY Week 15 Bills vs Patriots* Post GameThread

[sven233]

Hard to take away anything positive from this one.  Just a "blah" type of game.  I mean, the most redeeming quality of it was the win and, obviously, that is what ultimately matters. 

 

But there were some concerning injuries for sure.  I mean, Allen said he's OK, but he always says that.  Hopefully that's true.

 

I did find one comment Allen made about the game interesting.  I will have to go back and listen to the interview for the exact wording, but he almost made it sound like they went into this game with a somewhat limited playbook.  He made some comment like there were some things to fix, but it was a fine line about doing things better and showing the complete playbook heading into the Playoffs. 

 

I mean, he obviously knows what they are and aren't doing more than we do, but the gameplan did look a little watered down today compared to what we have been seeing the last few weeks.  There was some motion, but not a ton.  You didn't see the WR screens and there were no designed Allen runs (good)!

 

So, as "blah" as today was, perhaps some of that was by design.  They figured they had enough in to win the game, which they did, and didn't have to get to creative to achieve that goal.  So maybe, just maybe, there was somewhat of a reason for the outing we just saw.  Hopefully, that was indeed part of the reason we weren't as sharp as we usually are.

Edited 7 hours ago by sven233

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

24 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

That is ***** crazy lol the defense was horrible from start to finish. The only stops were turnovers. As usual. We were on skates all day and played catchup. The defense was useless again on 3rd down. Just relying on fluke turnovers and holding on for dear life. Zero pressure, can’t stop the run, every play that’s normal is whatever the offense wants. Penalties all over and an offense that sucked all year moving it at Will scoring more TDs then our offense. Our defense is our Achilles heel and has been since 2019

The fluke argument is ridiculous…the 7 consecutive stops capped off by the defensive TD was a huge part in the win.  If a defense making plays is always a fluke it’s just not even worth arguing honestly.
 

I didn’t say they’ve been good all year….they were straight up garbage at full strength against the rams 

 

you can just as easily turn this argument around and say the bills offense scored 17 against a pretty bad defense despite having great field position on a few drives 

[CincyBillsFan]

The entire team was off today - it happens.  KC had to go to OT to beat Carolina.  Baltimore lost to Cleveland.  Both the D & O at times played great and at other times played like crap. You can make an effective argument that both units won the game or God forbid had we lost that they both were responsible for the loss.  In the NFL the difference between highly seeded playoff teams that make runs and those that don't is winning games like this.

 

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

24 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said:

I liked the competitiveness that Bishop showed tonight. They had him matched up on TE’s a lot. From his post draft pressers, it’s clear that he takes a lot of pride in covering TEs. He was beaten a few times, but on first blush, he was always competing pretty well.

Respectfully, I couldn’t disagree more with this. I thought he was regularly exposed and out of position. 

[RichRiderBills]

I think we would have faired better if early in, we would have been more focused on running and short YAC focused catches.

 

Did not overall like Brady's playcalling tonight. 

[Success]

I hate that KC has this game every week, but when we do, it's "they're pretenders."

 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, Success said:

I hate that KC has this game every week, but when we do, it's "they're pretenders."

 

 

Because the Chiefs have the rings to back it up. The Bills don't.

[HurlyBurly51]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

The fluke argument is ridiculous…the 7 consecutive stops capped off by the defensive TD was a huge part in the win.  If a defense making plays is always a fluke it’s just not even worth arguing honestly.
 

I didn’t say they’ve been good all year….they were straight up garbage at full strength against the rams 

 

you can just as easily turn this argument around and say the bills offense scored 17 against a pretty bad defense despite having great field position on a few drives 

Sometimes they don't pass the eyeball test, but I'll take that performance every week.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

13 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

It’s inexplicable to me how Elam seems so unaware and unable to turn his head around. He has the physical skills to do it. He has the time in the system with good coaching. Seems like a problem between the ears. Anyhow it counts in the win column and let’s beat the Jets. 

I’ll give him the opening drive TD. He was in great position and just got flat out beat by a high level through and great grab. However there are a few other times your point on him is valid, and likely why McD has made every effort to keep him off the field 

[CincyBillsFan]

41 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Not in the playoffs

I think this is in part due to the fact that cold games are harder to throw in which makes Allen's performance in that 5 degree win over NE in the playoffs astonishing.  It is also due in part to the fact that the Bills play these late season cold games differently then they do the earlier games.

 

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

That was the Patriots A game. We managed to survive and advance.  But this game will be harder soon if they keep improving.  

[EmotionallyUnstable]

27 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Rookie must be a fast learner in the film room.

Not against the blitz. He seemed pretty rattled when the pressures started to heat up in the 2nd half. 
 

Overall I thought he had a very good performance. Reminded me of what I’ve seen from Bo Nix so far 

[The Helmet of]

16 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

It’s inexplicable to me how Elam seems so unaware and unable to turn his head around. He has the physical skills to do it. He has the time in the system with good coaching. Seems like a problem between the ears. Anyhow it counts in the win column and let’s beat the Jets. 

He seems to have a difficult time coming out of his breaks. Not fluid. Choppy.

[CincyBillsFan]

41 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

Hopefully this is just the Bills uninspired, if not we one and done 

Off course that is exactly what it was.  Don't forget KC & Det are a combined 27 - 1 against everyone not named Buffalo.  Those two wins provide much stronger evidence that we will not be one and done in the playoffs then a close win against a divisional opponent.

 

 

[BananaB]

Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said:

I’ll give him the opening drive TD. He was in great position and just got flat out beat by a high level through and great grab. However there are a few other times your point on him is valid, and likely why McD has made every effort to keep him off the field 

I won’t. You had your offense sitting on the bench for the whole 1st quarter. They carried the team for two straight games and then have an easy opponent and come out starting like ass. ***** brutal

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Just now, buffaloboyinATL said:

That was the Patriots A game. We managed to survive and advance.  But this game will be harder soon if they keep improving.  

I said to the ppl I was watching with after the opening two TDs. They threw their best punch. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t score again all game. I was mostly right until the end, but a lot of that had to do with self inflicted wounds. They beat themselves more than we beat them 

[LABILLBACKER]

15 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

They were either trying to save Williams' arm (he came in on the first 3rd down), or they were under the impression that Spector....adds something. What, I'm not sure. He's playing his worst ball imo.

Spector is absolutely awful. I don't see anything there that project-able or capable of developing. And frankly I doubt Milano gives us anything moving forward. So it's down to Bernard & Williams with a bunch of bodies to back them up. We are in deep trouble defensively. 

[Nitro]

26 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

That is ***** crazy lol the defense was horrible from start to finish. The only stops were turnovers. As usual. We were on skates all day and played catchup. The defense was useless again on 3rd down. Just relying on fluke turnovers and holding on for dear life. Zero pressure, can’t stop the run, every play that’s normal is whatever the offense wants. Penalties all over and an offense that sucked all year moving it at Will scoring more TDs then our offense. Our defense is our Achilles heel and has been since 2019

BAD take.  Three punts, three turn overs and one drive that ended at the half came after the first two TD drives for NE.   That is not horrible.  Please erase your emotionally charged view and look at the stats and see that they kept NE in check.  You omit that the defense was playing with second stringers.  If you have not seen Maye play this season, this young guy is improving and looks to be a handful in the future.   Once we get the guys healthy the Bills will be ready for any team in the playoffs.

[HurlyBurly51]

For some reason I'm a little surprised this was Cam's 1st career pick.

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

Is it me or has NE baited Josh into that same interception going back like four seasons now?