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8 hours ago, Special K said:

I understand guys should be upset when one of their teammates goes down with such a gruesome injury, but Stroud's over the top antics seemed quite juvenile and unbecoming of a Captain of the Offense and a supposed leader of the team.

 

I counted at least 5 different teammates that had to come over and comfort him, trying to tell him to get it together with no success. he was crying so much, you would think he was actually the one injured......way to take the focus away from your injured teammate.

 

Anyone with any sense should have realized the cameras were going to be on you in that moment, and you need to keep it together and act like a leader....not to mention the fact that he played pretty poorly after the Dell injury.

 

I know a lot of Bills players had tears in their eyes during the Hamlin incident, but that was a completely different situation IMO.....they thought he died on the field.

 

I just thought it was a bad look and a little immature for the face of their franchise to carry on in that way.

 

Flame away!!!!!

I get your point, but even before this Stroud struck me as a guy who wears his heart on his sleeve.  Maybe it makes him less of a leader or maybe his teammates pick up the slack on occasions like yesterday.   We'll see if his style works out.  

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8 hours ago, Special K said:

I understand guys should be upset when one of their teammates goes down with such a gruesome injury, but Stroud's over the top antics seemed quite juvenile and unbecoming of a Captain of the Offense and a supposed leader of the team.

 

I counted at least 5 different teammates that had to come over and comfort him, trying to tell him to get it together with no success. he was crying so much, you would think he was actually the one injured......way to take the focus away from your injured teammate.

 

Anyone with any sense should have realized the cameras were going to be on you in that moment, and you need to keep it together and act like a leader....not to mention the fact that he played pretty poorly after the Dell injury.

 

I know a lot of Bills players had tears in their eyes during the Hamlin incident, but that was a completely different situation IMO.....they thought he died on the field.

 

I just thought it was a bad look and a little immature for the face of their franchise to carry on in that way.

 

Flame away!!!!!

 

He said it's his best friend...probably feels responsible in some way for throwing the ball to put him in that spot.

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7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Frankly... I don't like Stroud. I think he's an entitled little B word .

 

Not much more for me to say here... I don't really disagree with you 

What? Stroud went to my daughter’s high school. We often sat in the stands near his family. Entitled? Hardly! Geeez. 

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12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What? Stroud went to my daughter’s high school. We often sat in the stands near his family. Entitled? Hardly! Geeez. 

 

I think the dislike of Stroud built around here when he didn't name Josh in his top five QBs.

 

ETA - He actually amended it later, and added Josh at fourth, behind Mahomes, Jackson and himself.

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8 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Again, seriously?

 

You think he lost the respect of his teammates or something? This is the most non issue of all the non issues

 

….and forget about the cameras. I don’t want to have to act differently because cameras are on me. You get me, like it or not. 

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I mean Dan Campbell is older, not Gen Z, seems to be a pretty good leader, and he was crying after a loss to the Vikings.  Some people are criers and some of those people are good or even great leaders.

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55 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

You know, it's takes like this that normalize the idea that men aren't allowed to show emotions or have feelings. Just push the emotion down, "rub some dirt on it, man up and soldier on". Then that same brush will paint men as being cold and uncaring. 

 

We tend to forget that these are still by and large very young men that play this game. And these young men have a life and things that happen away from the game that may influence them. Seeing his best buddy have such a gruesome injury right in front of him and knowing how hard Dell worked to get back to football after last year has to feel devastating. Let the man feel his emotions. 

 

I get it, these are supposed to be modern day gladiators. Often athletes get dehumanized, almost like they are just AI generated characters that exist solely for football and our entertainment. Especially in football where players faces are covered by a face mask. 

 

Maybe it's the holiday season tugging at this old guy's heart, but can we allow people to process their own emotions, thoughts and feelings in their own way without trying to persecute them?

Well said. 

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28 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Well, to be completely accurate, death is a complete absence of brain activity, and Hamlin didn’t suffer that fate 


Many of us posting here are dead then. 

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26 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I think the dislike of Stroud built around here when he didn't name Josh in his top five QBs.

 

ETA - He actually amended it later, and added Josh at fourth, behind Mahomes, Jackson and himself.

This is right on the line of an acceptable list. Obviously he's not better than Josh, but no problem with him betting on himself. Time has shown us that there is a very clear delineation between the top 4 and everyone else. It's that list, minus Stroud, plus Burrow. 

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3 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

This is right on the line of an acceptable list. Obviously he's not better than Josh, but no problem with him betting on himself. Time has shown us that there is a very clear delineation between the top 4 and everyone else. It's that list, minus Stroud, plus Burrow. 

 

He kept Prescott at fifth...

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2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

He kept Prescott at fifth...

Was his list from before this season, or very early in this season? Burrow didn't really have the opportunity to do anything last season, so not a huge deal. I think this is the season Burrow has proved he isn't going anywhere. 

 

Even Jalen Hurts looked like an MVP for a second. Only time can separate the best from the rest. 

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25 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

I mean Dan Campbell is older, not Gen Z, seems to be a pretty good leader, and he was crying after a loss to the Vikings.  Some people are criers and some of those people are good or even great leaders.

 

I think the key word here is "after". At which point I think you are free to let her rip.

But during a game, when you have a lot of people counting on you to hold your end up, I think you need to have your shlt square and and be ready to do the job that's expected of you.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Nineforty said:

I wish everyone just reacted the exact way I want and exactly the same way I would so that I can feel justified in my backward ass way of thinking. 

 

Mocking people for not accepting the differences of others, while you simultaneously insult them for interacting with the world differently than you, is probably not really helping you make the point you want to make.

Physician, heal thyself.....

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I thought the same thing. He seemed to be incredibly upset, like Dell was dead and of course the directors of these broadcasts seem to just love to overly focus on the drama of it all.  One thing is for sure the whole Texans team seemed to lose interest in winning after that. Which is understandable. As a selfish Bills fan I was more focused on the fact that the Chiefs once again saw the stars align and walk out of there with a victory when bad luck befalls an opponent. 

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100% agree it was a bad look.  I get all the emotion and it sucks what happened.  Let the grief in for a couple seconds, maybe shed a tear or two but then muscle up.  You’re the QB which means you’re the leader, the game and season aren’t over.  They lost that game the second Stroud when to pieces.  This isn’t a spinal injury, this isn’t a Hamlin situation, the game wasn’t going to be called off for this and your QB has to be able to fight through it.  It’s like a general or a pilot, spending too much time in your feelings will lead to awful outcomes for everyone else’s counting on you.  

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I agree with OP.  This reminds me of a story from the old country that my grandparents used to tell me.  The story was about a little boy and his family who were all attending the village's annual Corn Solstice Festival.  The little boy was too scared to go on the donkey ride and watched from the sideline as his family rode the donkeys.  In a freak accident his family was thrown from the backs of their asses and shredded to pieces in a giant corn thresher.  The accident although gruesome was quite routine for Corn Solstice Festivals of their time.  Upon seeing his entire family torn to pieces the little boy let out a single tear.  Incensed by the disgusting display of emotion, the villagers set upon the child, cursing him, pelting him with corn, and spitting on him.  He was banished to the forest where he would live out his days coming to the edge of the village to beg for scraps, trading skunk pelts for stale bread.  And thats how it went until the day he died, sad, alone, and scared. 

 

The story was called "The Sad Little P*ssy Boy Who Cried That One Time."  The message, however, is clear. The old country sounds horrible.

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You’ll get a lock of flack OP - mainly because it’s the socially normal “right thing to do” to defend Stroud.

 

But I agree - it was over the top.

 

You’ll notice that no-one else was crying for extended periods like Stroud was. Not the coach, not the other receivers - no one.

 

If I’m on that team, i’m questioning his mental toughness.

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