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Zero.  Josh is 1 of 1

 

please stay with the Bills and play at this level for 10 more seasons

 

too much to ask? Maybe

 

how about 8 seasons?

I’ve seen the future and Josh wins 3 Super Bowls with the Bills 😎

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34 minutes ago, ghostwriter said:

Allen is starting to become like Brady and Manning mentally, which is the biggest compliment that I think you could give him.

I can't quite go there yet. The absolute most important thing a QB can do is be able to read defenses. Look off safeties. Brady and Manning were the absolute best to ever do that.

 

They were like OC's on the field. And they both had good enough arm strength to compete in shootouts where needed too.

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Cam Newton - 2015 MVP (age 26)

 

Cam 6-5 245

Josh 6-5 237 (currently age 28)

 

Cam 2015 - Car record 15-1; 296 Completions for 3837 yards (12.96 yards/catch) 35 TDs & 10 ints + 132 carries for 636 yards (4.82 yards/carry) & 10 TDs

Josh 2024 (YTD) - Bills Record 11-3; 275 Completions for 3395 yards (12.35 yards/catch) 25 tds & 5 ints + 91 carries for 484 yards (5.32 yards/carry) & 11 TDs

Josh projected - 334 completions for 4125 yards, 30 TDs & 6 ints + 111 carries for 591 yards & 13 Tds

 

I'd say those are very similar MVP caliber seasons by very similar players.  Josh has a higher completion % and Josh seems to actually getting better, while Cam's game began to deteriorate following his MVP campaign.  Cam remained a good QB for the next 3 years, but never got close to the MVP season again.  Josh is also the better QB and player, but the similarities and hard to ignore.

The physical attributes are similar, but Newton didn't have near the ability that Josh Allen has to dissect defenses and make off script plays when necessary.

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13 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

I can't quite go there yet. The absolute most important thing a QB can do is be able to read defenses. Look off safeties. Brady and Manning were the absolute best to ever do that.

 

They were like OC's on the field. And they both had good enough arm strength to compete in shootouts where needed too.

 

 

 

He’s getting there though.. His brain is catching up with his arm.. He’s like 85% of the way there.

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18 hours ago, LTT_BBFL said:

I would say a bigger, stronger and faster John Elway with a little Big Ben thrown in there. Fortunately for us, he's one of a kind and the NFL may never see anything like him again. 

 

Yeah it's always been Elway to me.   Right down to the trajectory that they throw/threw the deep ball.   He didn't run for yardage nearly as much but that was a time when QB's could get destroyed running the ball past the LOS.   

 

Randall Cunningham had a huge arm but that's about it as a passer.   Inaccurate, long windup, couldn't read a defense to save his life etc..  But he could throw those Russell Wilson moon balls.   They resuscitated his career in Minnesota with Randy Moss.  Allen can't really throw those.   Very different players, IMO.

 

Cam Newton was very similar to Josh as a runner but he never had the arm talent Allen has.   Not even at his best.

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29 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

The physical attributes are similar, but Newton didn't have near the ability that Josh Allen has to dissect defenses and make off script plays when necessary.

Not to mention Allen has better accuracy. Can read defenses a little better. 

 

 

Posted
18 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Cam Newton - 2015 MVP (age 26)

 

Cam 6-5 245

Josh 6-5 237 (currently age 28)

 

Cam 2015 - Car record 15-1; 296 Completions for 3837 yards (12.96 yards/catch) 35 TDs & 10 ints + 132 carries for 636 yards (4.82 yards/carry) & 10 TDs

Josh 2024 (YTD) - Bills Record 11-3; 275 Completions for 3395 yards (12.35 yards/catch) 25 tds & 5 ints + 91 carries for 484 yards (5.32 yards/carry) & 11 TDs

Josh projected - 334 completions for 4125 yards, 30 TDs & 6 ints + 111 carries for 591 yards & 13 Tds

 

I'd say those are very similar MVP caliber seasons by very similar players.  Josh has a higher completion % and Josh seems to actually getting better, while Cam's game began to deteriorate following his MVP campaign.  Cam remained a good QB for the next 3 years, but never got close to the MVP season again.  Josh is also the better QB and player, but the similarities and hard to ignore.

This is right.  Prime Cam Newton did not last long and Josh will have many more seasons on par with that.  They do similarly rare things but Josh is slightly to solidly better at almost all QB things.

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