Name a player who is comparable to Josh Allen.....

[Your Brown Eye]

[peterpan]

Honestly I think Mahomes.  He avoids the rush so well and makes amazing throws too.  

[LarryMadman]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I don't even know if Josh could ice skate.

LOL, you know whats scary, JJ Watt used to play hockey being from Wisconsin. Imagine seeing 6'6" 300 lbs with a mean streak coming at you on skates, holy *****!

[TBBills Fan]

Josh Allen. 

[JerseyBills]

As much as I don't like the guy- a prime LeBron James

[Mr. WEO]

I'd say Newton--I've said Cunningham in the past and I can live with that.  Different size, but for pure arm strength and running skill---Vick is a solid comp.

 

The Elway as a runner is an absolute myth.  He rarely had called runs--he was a good scrambler.  But he wasn't a runner of any kind.  He had 3400 yards....in 16 seasons.  

 

Cunningham came up in a time where people (usually not out loud) talked about "black QBs" as a certain code.  So Cunningham, an actual great runner, gets kind of pegged as such while his passing power doesn't always get it's due. 

[Charles Romes]

8 hours ago, LTT_BBFL said:

I would say a bigger, stronger and faster John Elway with a little Big Ben thrown in there. Fortunately for us, he's one of a kind and the NFL may never see anything like him again. 

Lucky for us, Elway saw a lot of Paxton Lynch  in Allen. 

[saundena]

9 hours ago, Special K said:

The only differences are Josh is much bigger 6-5 240 to Cunningham 6-3 212.

 

 

Honestly, how heavy do we think Josh is now?  I'd bet my house that he's no longer 237 (as listed) or 240 as you suggest.  If you just look at his face, he's filled out quite a bit.  I'm not saying he's fat, he's just fully an adult now and no longer a kid coming out of college.  Coupled with a legit NFL strength and conditioning training program and maybe a bit of the delish blue-collar food Buffalo offers; I bet he's close to 250 - 255.

 

A natural, world class athlete like Josh, with a large frame like he has. Could easily gain 20 - 25 lbs and if you saw him on a beach or something, it would be very hot to notice the weight gain.

 

Whatever he's doing, it works.  As long as he doesn't lose quickness, the weight likely affords him some protection.

 

To answer your question, I said a cross between Elway and Favre, but this season, much less Favre.  Cunningham / Elway is spot on I think- maybe with some of Kelly's on the field presence and leadership 

Edited 23 hours ago by saundena

[Kelly to Allen]

It's almost identical to Elway. 

 

Both grew up on the west coast 

Both were all star baseball players 

Both went to a college football team that was mediocre 

Both are extremely mobile 

Both have generational arm strength 

Both play outside of structure 

Both have already had signature playoff moments early in their career 

 

I think he has the backyard sandlot style of favre too which was unique.

 

But if I had to pick two, it's Elway or Favre 

[Mr. WEO]

31 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

It's almost identical to Elway. 

 

Both grew up on the west coast 

Both were all star baseball players 

Both went to a college football team that was mediocre 

Both are extremely mobile 

Both have generational arm strength 

Both play outside of structure 

Both have already had signature playoff moments early in their career 

 

I think he has the backyard sandlot style of favre too which was unique.

 

But if I had to pick two, it's Elway or Favre 

 

Elway only won SBs playing within a very tight structure (and a new HC).

 

Elway rushed for -279 yards in college.  Josh ran for 767 in only 27 games.

 

Again, the myth of the prolific running QB as Elway is just that.  he averaged under 15 ypg and had 33 career rushing TDs.  Josh averages 39 and already has 45 rushing TDs.

 

Elway was a great passer--threw a bunch of TDs (and a TON of INTS).  As a runner-he was tough, sure.  But his team rarely called run plays for him.  His legend as a running QB basically is kept alive with an iconic clip of him helicoptering into the end zone.

 

He's absolutely nothing like Allen as a runner.  Big arm for sure ("Elway cross").

[T master]

The one QB i've always thought in his prime that reminded me of Josh is Arron Rogers . Their arm strength is comparable, Rogers use to be able to scramble to keep a play alive even if he wasn't the runner that Josh is but i thought their skill set was very similar .

[TheWeatherMan]

Mike Ditka 

[Andrew Son]

From what I'm hearing this week, Drake Maye...

[Kelly to Allen]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Elway only won SBs playing within a very tight structure (and a new HC).

 

Elway rushed for -279 yards in college.  Josh ran for 767 in only 27 games.

 

Again, the myth of the prolific running QB as Elway is just that.  he averaged under 15 ypg and had 33 career rushing TDs.  Josh averages 39 and already has 45 rushing TDs.

 

Elway was a great passer--threw a bunch of TDs (and a TON of INTS).  As a runner-he was tough, sure.  But his team rarely called run plays for him.  His legend as a running QB basically is kept alive with an iconic clip of him helicoptering into the end zone.

 

He's absolutely nothing like Allen as a runner.  Big arm for sure ("Elway cross").

I remember watching Elway scramble around a ton to find an open wr or they would call QB draws sometimes. But yeah I agree Allen scrambles more. 

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[The Jokeman]

John Elway is my first pick and another one is pre injury Daunte Culpepper. 

Edited 22 hours ago by The Jokeman

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

I remember watching Elway scramble around a ton to find an open wr or they would call QB draws sometimes. But yeah I agree Allen scrambles more. 

 

 

 

yes, great scrambler.

 

Josh is a great runner.

6 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Mike Ditka 

 

Chuck Norris

[BillsPride12]

There isn't one.  Josh is a true Unicorn.  We are beyond lucky to have him

 

 

[Rubes]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

 

That’s about the only thing close.

 

In reality, the only QB who is slightly close is Elway.  Big, tough, athletic, accurate, excellent decision making skills.

 

I agree with this (Elway, not the Cylon).

 

Elway was a special player and athlete that brought a ton to the table that no other QB had until then. I think the main difference between him and Josh is that Josh is a better and more effective runner. But it's hard to say if Elway would be that way if he played now...back then, I imagine most QBs didn't want to run as much because of the terrible beating they would take.

 

[frostbitmic]

Josh is still morphing and growing as a QB.

 

Through his early career he's looked to me like Brett Favre ... A gunslinger with a strong arm, tough, fearless, will get what he needs through the air or on the ground. I think Josh has elevated his game beyond that now.

[Stanley Lombardi]

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