Roundybout Posted Friday at 11:38 PM Posted Friday at 11:38 PM https://www.axios.com/2024/12/20/house-passes-government-shutdown No government shutdown today, sorry lolbertarians. Better luck next time. This appears to be a version of the bipartisan bill from a couple days ago, NOT the Elon bill. Too bad Trump’s request to eliminate the debt ceiling was not included. 2
dgrochester55 Posted Friday at 11:43 PM Posted Friday at 11:43 PM (edited) Dems as usual abused the system by flooding the bill with pork and forced the Republicans hand. Meanwhile, the masses were too distracted by the drone news to focus on what was passed. It was a win for the democrats today but not so much for those who work and pay taxes. Hopefully things will change in the next few years. Edited Friday at 11:46 PM by dgrochester55 2 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted Saturday at 12:20 AM Posted Saturday at 12:20 AM 35 minutes ago, Roundybout said: https://www.axios.com/2024/12/20/house-passes-government-shutdown No government shutdown today, sorry lolbertarians. Better luck next time. This appears to be a version of the bipartisan bill from a couple days ago, NOT the Elon bill. Too bad Trump’s request to eliminate the debt ceiling was not included. See? You were all gummed up worrying about Elon, his input, the implosion of the government and zombies running through the street munching on cheerleaders. In the end, the lights are on, the toilets still flush and some beneficiaries made scoodles of money. You’re going to get frown lines with all the worrying! Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again, after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground Same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
B-Man Posted Saturday at 12:44 AM Posted Saturday at 12:44 AM (edited) Two days ago, "the Republicans pulled out of the deal that we had been working on for several months" The bill is stripped of the pork, from 1600 pages to 118 pages Passes after two tries tonight and the democrats. (and Roundy) WE WON ! Liberalism is all a show Edited Saturday at 12:45 AM by B-Man 1 2
Pokebball Posted Saturday at 01:11 AM Posted Saturday at 01:11 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Two days ago, "the Republicans pulled out of the deal that we had been working on for several months" The bill is stripped of the pork, from 1600 pages to 118 pages Passes after two tries tonight and the democrats. (and Roundy) WE WON ! Liberalism is all a show Trump, Johnson and Musk were playing 3D chess and Jeffries & Schumer believe they won the game of checkers Edited Saturday at 02:34 AM by Pokebball 2 1 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted Saturday at 01:12 AM Posted Saturday at 01:12 AM “The senate couldn’t pass any of the appropriation bills because they are too busy with 15000 other bills” -roundy 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 01:48 AM Posted Saturday at 01:48 AM I fond it odd when people are so pleased when their political party is so much in agreement on how to spend money they don't actually make. I would prefer my side do better also but the excitement at spending is crazy. 1 1
Roundybout Posted Saturday at 02:47 AM Author Posted Saturday at 02:47 AM 1 hour ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: “The senate couldn’t pass any of the appropriation bills because they are too busy with 15000 other bills” -roundy You mean the side of Government with a razor-slim margin and at least three DINOs? That one?
B-Man Posted Saturday at 03:17 AM Posted Saturday at 03:17 AM The latest spending bill has passed the House of Representatives and did have some Democratic support. Just a few more weeks before DOGE can really get started. https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/12/20/house-bill-passed-finally-n2405526 1
daz28 Posted Saturday at 03:58 AM Posted Saturday at 03:58 AM 39 minutes ago, B-Man said: The latest spending bill has passed the House of Representatives and did have some Democratic support. Just a few more weeks before DOGE can really get started. https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/12/20/house-bill-passed-finally-n2405526 Every single democrat voted for it. Must have really removed a ton of that democrat pork. 🤣 1
Tiberius Posted Saturday at 01:07 PM Posted Saturday at 01:07 PM Political theater. Nothing accomplished accept Trump and a few other flunkies got some extra tv time, yippie 1 2
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted Saturday at 01:30 PM Posted Saturday at 01:30 PM 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Political theater. Nothing accomplished accept Trump and a few other flunkies got some extra tv time, yippie There’s always political theater. Regardless, you’re welcome, Tibsy.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Saturday at 01:34 PM Posted Saturday at 01:34 PM 13 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: See? You were all gummed up worrying about Elon, his input, the implosion of the government and zombies running through the street munching on cheerleaders. In the end, the lights are on, the toilets still flush and some beneficiaries made scoodles of money. You’re going to get frown lines with all the worrying! Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down Letting the days go by, water flowing underground Into the blue again, after the money's gone Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground Same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was, same as it ever was It seems we share something: a fondness for talking heads. It dates you. Saw them in 1979 in a college gym with 500 others. Had never heard of them. Fan ever since. it’s great that the bill was passed but things are not and will not be the same. I thought most MAGAs voted explicitly for change. They’re going to get it. Trump wanted a shutdown. He’s going to get what he wants more often than not.
B-Man Posted Saturday at 03:09 PM Posted Saturday at 03:09 PM Stand alone bills are the answer. Democrats Refused To Pass Kids Cancer Research Bill Until They Could Use It To Push 1,500 Pages Of Pork by Brianna Lyman In March the Republican-led House passed H.R. 3391, which would continue funding research of pediatric diseases like childhood cancer. The legislation never went anywhere in the Senate under the leadership of Democrat Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. But now Democrats are trying to use sick kids with cancer as leverage to pass 1,500-plus pages of pork. On Wednesday Speaker Mike Johnson unveiled a 1,500-page so-called “continuing resolution” that was really nothing more than a stuffed omnibus bill that included money for censorship, sweetheart deals for Congress, and other unnecessary expenditures. Almost immediately the pork-stuffed “continuing resolution” was rebuked by millions of Americans, https://thefederalist.com/2024/12/20/dems-refused-to-pass-kids-cancer-research-bill-until-they-could-use-it-to-push-1500-pages-of-pork/
Roundybout Posted Saturday at 03:18 PM Author Posted Saturday at 03:18 PM 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: Stand alone bills are the answer. Democrats Refused To Pass Kids Cancer Research Bill Until They Could Use It To Push 1,500 Pages Of Pork by Brianna Lyman In March the Republican-led House passed H.R. 3391, which would continue funding research of pediatric diseases like childhood cancer. The legislation never went anywhere in the Senate under the leadership of Democrat Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. But now Democrats are trying to use sick kids with cancer as leverage to pass 1,500-plus pages of pork. On Wednesday Speaker Mike Johnson unveiled a 1,500-page so-called “continuing resolution” that was really nothing more than a stuffed omnibus bill that included money for censorship, sweetheart deals for Congress, and other unnecessary expenditures. Almost immediately the pork-stuffed “continuing resolution” was rebuked by millions of Americans, https://thefederalist.com/2024/12/20/dems-refused-to-pass-kids-cancer-research-bill-until-they-could-use-it-to-push-1500-pages-of-pork/ Will you support eliminating the filibuster to get these “single issue bills” passed? Otherwise you are simply creating inefficiency and gridlock. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 01:11 AM Posted yesterday at 01:11 AM 11 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It seems we share something: a fondness for talking heads. It dates you. Saw them in 1979 in a college gym with 500 others. Had never heard of them. Fan ever since. it’s great that the bill was passed but things are not and will not be the same. I thought most MAGAs voted explicitly for change. They’re going to get it. Trump wanted a shutdown. He’s going to get what he wants more often than not. Yes, but more casually than some friends of mine. I think most of us in that general age range know that song and the video that went with it. Never saw them live, but it’s always cool when someone catches them on the way up. As for a shut down, I don’t really think much about it one way or the other. I hate to see people impacted by furloughs, layoffs, disability or whatever. On the other hand….something has got to give. Status quo ain’t getting it done.
Capco Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) On 12/20/2024 at 6:38 PM, Roundybout said: Too bad Trump’s request to eliminate the debt ceiling was not included. That's all this was. Trump wanted the wiggle room of an increased debt ceiling to pass now before his inauguration, that way he and the Republicans wouldn't have to take the blame for raising the debt ceiling when they take full control of the government, despite campaign promises of reducing debt and waste. Last time Trump tried to play chess, he asked why the board wasn't red and black. Democrats didn't blink here, so now the pressure is really on the Republicans to deliver. Edited 23 hours ago by Capco
T master Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago It's to bad that they couldn't pass a bill to keep all of the essential pieces of the gov't going running and send all of the politicians home for a month or more I would love to see the look on their faces and it might be nice to have a couple of days with out the likes of some of those folks in DC running around spewing their thoughts ... 1
T master Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) On 12/20/2024 at 9:17 PM, B-Man said: The latest spending bill has passed the House of Representatives and did have some Democratic support. Just a few more weeks before DOGE can really get started. I wonder how many of those get signed that every one involved can actually read and understand all that is in a bill with that many pages and how many just get pushed through and many of the lackies in DC don't have a clue what is actually in the bill . Edited 11 hours ago by T master
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 11 hours ago, Capco said: That's all this was. Trump wanted the wiggle room of an increased debt ceiling to pass now before his inauguration, that way he and the Republicans wouldn't have to take the blame for raising the debt ceiling when they take full control of the government, despite campaign promises of reducing debt and waste. Last time Trump tried to play chess, he asked why the board wasn't red and black. Democrats didn't blink here, so now the pressure is really on the Republicans to deliver. The pressure is always on, and the political cycles change based on where the country is at any given point in time. It’s not long ago extremist liberals were celebrating the arrest of opposition party members, certain their candidate in the WH was sharp and up for the job, believing all sorts of fanciful stories of Russians in our midst, from the WH to laptops and anything else. They claimed the price of goods operated independently of whomever was in the WH, that it was always someone else’s fault, and that Team Biden was the team that needed to be in charge. In retrospect, how ****ing bad did they misread the tea leaves? How wrong were they about…just about everything? In the end, the cycle changed and enough people became tired of Jack Smith, Fanni Willis, the weaponization of the government, the absurd illusion that Biden was a-ok, after that, that Harris was actually who they really wanted, the mishandling of illegal immigration and the price of eggs. The fate of republicans rests in the ability to make enough Americans believe they are better off in two to four years, and that the smart choice forward is conservative guidance. You can never underestimate the potential for a political party to f that up, so we’ll see.
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