Sickening update from SB Nation

[DCofNC]

24 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

This really illustrates how all these jerks in the media care only about being proven correct and nothing else. They fall over themselves to get the clicks with their hot takes, then they're so desperate to be the ones to say "You heard it here first" or "I was right" that it clouds their view of said player for the rest of time.

 

There were still guys desperate for Allen to regress this season so they could say the last several years were all down to Diggs

Isn’t it crazy how many people were claiming it was all Diggs that made Allen, now what?  Well now the MVP talk and suddenly, the Bills and Josh Allen “with all his weapons”, have the best offense in football. It’s a joke.  At the start of the year they didn’t have a single 1000 yard receiver on the team, now they added the ghost of Cooper and he’s getting credit for opening things up lol.😂 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

by being an internet bulldog.

 

Here's the proof for anyone interested, courtesy of the internet archive:

 

 

May 2024:

 

 

Today:

 

 

 

 

I don't see how they are vastly different.  Most knew he would go in the first round (needed no post draft editing for that) and the crux of the article is that he didn't have a great college career (not really an argument against that)....and therefore,  it was widely felt (here as well) that he was very raw and there was not a small risk in taking him high in the first.  The original title obviously implies the Bills were taking him in the 1st--or there would be no article to write.  No take.

 

"Because his college career wasn't great, so when the Bills take him in the top 10, and he succeeds, they will have outsmarted basically all regular humans and the entirety of math itself"

 

Maybe that would be a better headline?  It captures the opinion of the guy well. 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

These jamokes have edited their draft article about Josh. The title used to be:

 

“If Josh Allen succeeds, the Bills will have outsmarted basically all regular humans and the entirety of math itself”

 

now it’s this:

 

“Josh Allen’s college career wasn’t great, but he’ll be a first-round pick anyway”

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/24/17271686/josh-allen-nfl-draft-2018-stats-analysis-comparisons

 

 

We see you trying to hide the evidence Jason Kirk! 

I love seeing these. 

 

1 hour ago, chongli said:

Someone here needs to let him know he is a dork (he quit Twitter):

 

Blue Sky

Jason Kirk

@jasonkirk.fyi

BkueSky?  Might as well have quit the Internet.

[FireChans]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

I don't see how they are vastly different.  Most knew he would go in the first round (needed no post draft editing for that) and the crux of the article is that he didn't have a great college career (not really an argument against that)....and therefore,  it was widely felt (here as well) that he was very raw and there was not a small risk in taking him high in the first.  The original title obviously implies the Bills were taking him in the 1st--or there would be no article to write.  No take.

 

"Because his college career wasn't great, so when the Bills take him in the top 10, and he succeeds, they will have outsmarted basically all regular humans and the entirety of math itself"

 

Maybe that would be a better headline?  It captures the opinion of the guy well. 

The article was written after the draft. The Bills already took him at 7.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

These articles are a reason I don't think josh will ever win a MVP

 

The voters are the ones who wrote article headlines like the one this thread is about

 

The day josh is voted MVP, ALL these articles are gonna come back to light and ALL these media and reporters will look like absolute clowns 

 

They will never allow it 

[RobbRiddick]

28 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Also a reason why Josh hasn't gotten an MVP yet.  They refuse to be wrong but now too many people are realizing that they were and don't have someone to back them up.

I still have a feeling they're going to give it to Jackson. The Lamar lovers keep pointing to the pure stats, yet last season when Allen's stats (apart from int numbers) absolutely blew his out the water, it was about more than just stats apparently

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

I still have a feeling they're going to give it to Jackson. The Lamar lovers keep pointing to the pure stats, yet last season when Allen's stats (apart from int numbers) absolutely blew his out the water, it was about more than just stats apparently

I feel like it's going to end up being something stupid with the new point system where Lamar gets enough 1st and 2nd place votes and Allen gets 1st and 3rd votes for him to win.

[GoBills808]

16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I don't see how they are vastly different.  Most knew he would go in the first round (needed no post draft editing for that) and the crux of the article is that he didn't have a great college career (not really an argument against that)....and therefore,  it was widely felt (here as well) that he was very raw and there was not a small risk in taking him high in the first.  The original title obviously implies the Bills were taking him in the 1st--or there would be no article to write.  No take.

 

"Because his college career wasn't great, so when the Bills take him in the top 10, and he succeeds, they will have outsmarted basically all regular humans and the entirety of math itself"

 

Maybe that would be a better headline?  It captures the opinion of the guy well. 

it's vastly different because they wrote it after the draft lol

[Sierra Foothills]

17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

I don't see how they are vastly different.  Most knew he would go in the first round (needed no post draft editing for that) and the crux of the article is that he didn't have a great college career (not really an argument against that)....and therefore,  it was widely felt (here as well) that he was very raw and there was not a small risk in taking him high in the first.  The original title obviously implies the Bills were taking him in the 1st--or there would be no article to write.  No take.

 

"Because his college career wasn't great, so when the Bills take him in the top 10, and he succeeds, they will have outsmarted basically all regular humans and the entirety of math itself"

 

Maybe that would be a better headline?  It captures the opinion of the guy well. 

 

Why re-write the headline at all?

 

What do you think his motivation for doing so was?

 

[K-9]

17 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

These articles are a reason I don't think josh will ever win a MVP

 

The voters are the ones who wrote article headlines like the one this thread is about

 

The day josh is voted MVP, ALL these articles are gonna come back to light and ALL these media and reporters will look like absolute clowns 

 

They will never allow it 

Here’s the list of the 50 sports journalists who voted for the AP NFL MVP for last season. Jason Kirk, the author of that ludicrous SB Nation article, is nowhere to be seen. I imagine the list will be mostly the same for this year and NONE of them will be influenced by any article written or their previously held opinion before this season. They’ve all seen what Josh has become over the course of this year. And for what it’s worth, Josh was the runaway MVP winner in a poll of 27 high ranking NFL team officials. 
 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/heres-the-full-list-of-the-50-ap-awards-voters

 

Here is the link for the article on the poll from two days ago. 
 

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-executives-vote-on-2024-nfl-season-awards

Edited December 20 by K-9

[GoBills808]

here's the big takeaway from the article 😂😂

 

 

 

[Dancing Fool]

The internet is such a boon for article writers who wish to never be wrong.

 

Facts need not apply, we can change history itself to make blunders look like precision guessing!

[section122]

40 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Also a reason why Josh hasn't gotten an MVP yet.  They refuse to be wrong but now too many people are realizing that they were and don't have someone to back them up.

 

10 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

I still have a feeling they're going to give it to Jackson. The Lamar lovers keep pointing to the pure stats, yet last season when Allen's stats (apart from int numbers) absolutely blew his out the water, it was about more than just stats apparently

 

I don't care about Josh winning MVP.  It would be nice but ultimately has no bearing on the greatness we are lucky to witness week in and week out.  That said the MVP voters really messed up last year.

 

Jackson didn't deserve it, Josh did.  His numbers were just better they were much better.  This year Jackson actually has an argument for MVP but they disqualified Josh last year bc the team wasn't winning (ended up 2nd in the conference but by the then the vote had been decided).  Now its the Ravens who are fighting for the division.  If Josh had won MVP last year I would be perfectly ok with Lamar winning it this year.  That's not how it happened and now I'll be annoyed if he doesn't win it this year lol.

[MJS]

I hate that they do this. It is so ridiculously corrupt, even for sports journalism. The media is constantly trying to gaslight the public and it is just gross.

[JP51]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

I respect a guy who admits he was wrong more than one who hides he was wrong.

Truth

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, Fleezoid said:

That's the media for you.  Truth, is only what they decide it is at any given time. 

 

And integrity is a word that has been erased from their vocabulary.

 

 

 

To be fair, are Jason Kirk and Sam Monson properly considered "members of the media" or "sports journalists"? 

Sam Monson's gig is PFF, which isn't media.  

Isn't Jason Kirk a podcaster and newsletter editor?  He's parlayed his way onto the staff list of the Athletic, but it's as a "newsletter editor" not a journalist.  "Jason Kirk is the senior newsletters editor for The Athletic, co-host of the Shutdown Fullcast and Vacation Bible School Podcast and author of the well-reviewed novel "Hell Is a World Without You."  

Edited December 20 by Beck Water

[The Wiz]

12 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

 

I don't care about Josh winning MVP.  It would be nice but ultimately has no bearing on the greatness we are lucky to witness week in and week out.  That said the MVP voters really messed up last year.

 

Jackson didn't deserve it, Josh did.  His numbers were just better they were much better.  This year Jackson actually has an argument for MVP but they disqualified Josh last year bc the team wasn't winning (ended up 2nd in the conference but by the then the vote had been decided).  Now its the Ravens who are fighting for the division.  If Josh had won MVP last year I would be perfectly ok with Lamar winning it this year.  That's not how it happened and now I'll be annoyed if he doesn't win it this year lol.

That's kind of my point.  MVP has always been the QB on the 1 or 2 seed team. Changing their typical formula would just be moving the goalpost from one year to the next to pick a player they want to be MVP vs who deserves it.

 

If it were solely based on stats and importance to the team, Burrow would likely be the front runner because he's doing everything (granted with Chase).  But they are currently on the outside looking in for playoffs so his stats don't matter that it's him and Chase having to go for 500yards/200yards and 4-5 TD a game because their defense is awful (same place the Bills/Allen was last year).

Edited December 20 by The Wiz

[Mr. WEO]

33 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The article was written after the draft. The Bills already took him at 7.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

it's vastly different because they wrote it after the draft lol

 

16 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Why re-write the headline at all?

 

What do you think his motivation for doing so was?

 

It says "updated" on the evening of day 1 of the draft.  When did it originally post?  what time on draft day?

 

Either way, what's the real issue here?  Guy said Allen was a reach, given his college output, yet everyone knew he would go in the 1st.  The Bills have indeed outsmarted a lot of people.

 

Looks all good to me.

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

 

 

It says "updated" on the evening of day 1 of the draft.  When did it originally post?  what time on draft day?

 

Either way, what's the real issue here?  Guy said Allen was a reach, given his college output, yet everyone knew he would go in the 1st.  The Bills have indeed outsmarted a lot of people.

 

Looks all good to me.

Just ask yourself why they edited a headline of an article last updated the night after a draft 6 years ago lol

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Just ask yourself why they edited a headline of an article last updated the night after a draft 6 years ago lol

 

who knows.  It's not something I would have noticed.