Does Trump Control Elon or does Elon Control Trump?

[daz28]

4 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

He will attempt to cut spending, but there will be Dems and some republicans standing in his way…

 

You don’t happen to know of any Dems that would be willing to help out in cutting spending, do you? 

Right now in the House, there are 38 republicans and zero democrats who are concerned with spending.  Iow, it doesn't stand a chance.  Elon is already a sham.  He stopped the bill to have the debt ceiling removal added to it.  Why on God's green Earth would you need to remove the debt ceiling if you planned on making spending cuts.  Completely illogical.  It's like saying I'm sending out for new credit cards, so I can quit wasting money I don't have. 

[Doc]

19 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Right now in the House, there are 38 republicans and zero democrats who are concerned with spending.  Iow, it doesn't stand a chance.  Elon is already a sham.  He stopped the bill to have the debt ceiling removal added to it.  Why on God's green Earth would you need to remove the debt ceiling if you planned on making spending cuts.  Completely illogical.  It's like saying I'm sending out for new credit cards, so I can quit wasting money I don't have. 

 

Huh?

[daz28]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Huh?

You think it's a coincidence that trump insisted on it immediately after Elon went ballistic on X, and they threatened every member who voted for it?  Yeah sure.  How many things did Musk outright lie about?  Wait until you see the final numbers of how much pork was actually cut from the bill, and we'll see if this was really about the pork.  Want to guess the % of difference(i'd say 5% would be very generous)?  The republicans who voted against it said it's pretty much the exact same bill.  Nancy Mace was on Fox saying all they did was remove the procedural/implementation pages to make it look literally, physically smaller.  That's how the republicans got their "win" today. Why was trump insisting the debt ceiling be included if they're cutting spending? Does that make an ounce of sense to you? 

Edited December 21, 2024 by daz28

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

12 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

He will attempt to cut spending, but there will be Dems and some republicans standing in his way…

 

You don’t happen to know of any Dems that would be willing to help out in cutting spending, do you? 

The ethanol subsides should go, don't you agree?

 

It's still in there

 

And no, they are not cutting anything, this is all show. The shutdowns are just political theater

[Doc]

7 hours ago, daz28 said:

You think it's a coincidence that trump insisted on it immediately after Elon went ballistic on X, and they threatened every member who voted for it?  Yeah sure.  How many things did Musk outright lie about?  Wait until you see the final numbers of how much pork was actually cut from the bill, and we'll see if this was really about the pork.  Want to guess the % of difference(i'd say 5% would be very generous)?  The republicans who voted against it said it's pretty much the exact same bill.  Nancy Mace was on Fox saying all they did was remove the procedural/implementation pages to make it look literally, physically smaller.  That's how the republicans got their "win" today. Why was trump insisting the debt ceiling be included if they're cutting spending? Does that make an ounce of sense to you? 

 

I tried searching for "debt ceiling eliminated."  There was nothing.

[BillsFanNC]

Hitler doesn't rule with the iron authoritarian fist like he used to does he?

 

That South African with asperger's has him under his boot!

 

[LeviF]

On 12/20/2024 at 10:41 AM, Roundybout said:

Not a denial of my point, I notice.

America First!! 

Does this mean they can’t be ultra far right? Since when does that matter? 

The AfD isn’t nearly as far right as they should be, and that’s only because the commies (similar to you) that run Germany made it illegal to tell the truth there. 

[JaCrispy]

11 hours ago, Tiberius said:

The ethanol subsides should go, don't you agree?

 

It's still in there

 

And no, they are not cutting anything, this is all show. The shutdowns are just political theater

Yeah, neither side is winning or losing in this bill…..it’s just so-so for both sides…

 

Not thrilled, but it could have been worse…

[BillsFanNC]

 

[JaCrispy]

2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Regardless of how you swing, Trump is such an icon, who has revolutionized the political process…love it! 🤣🤣🤣

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:

Regardless of how you swing, Trump is such an icon, who has revolutionized the political process…love it! 🤣🤣🤣

He's kind of driving a point home, the government can run itself for the most part. Or let's hope!

 

I mean he guy emulated a #### ### on stage and still won election. No one cares what he says, that's funny.

[Doc]

8 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Thanks for posting a pic of their (meaning DeLauro, since I've never been sure if that's a man or woman) fugly mug.  I throw up in my mouth every time I see them on TV here in CT, which thankfully isn't often.

 

And it's hilarious to see how hard the Dems are trying to make "Musk is controlling Trump" into a thing.  They still haven't learned a thing and likely won't.

Edited December 22, 2024 by Doc

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

🤣

 

 

[Doc]

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

And the left just keeps getting dumber...

 

[BillsFanNC]

Pssst....

 

Trump's not the President yet.

 

All this consternation about Hitler.....not acting like Hitler..yet also influencing and accomplishing so much.

 

And Hitler hasn't even taken office yet.

 

 

Love. It.

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

This topic coming from @Tiberius is insane seeing as we just ended 4 years now knowing that Biden was not making almost any decisions for all 4 years. It also destroys his Trump is a dictator tripe.

[daz28]

On 12/21/2024 at 9:19 AM, Doc said:

 

I tried searching for "debt ceiling eliminated."  There was nothing.

President-elect Donald Trump has said the quiet part out loud, admitting he wants Congress to eliminate the debt ceiling under President Joe Biden’s administration. Trump’s calls for getting rid of the debt ceiling is a break from decades of Republican party opposition to raising debt limits.

"Number one, the debt ceiling should be thrown out entirely," Trump told CBS News in a Thursday phone interview. "Number two, a lot of the different things they thought they'd receive [in a proposed spending deal] are now going to be thrown out, 100%. And we'll see what happens.”

“We'll see whether or not we have a closure during the Biden administration,” he added. “But if it's going to take place, it's going to take place during Biden, not during Trump."

On the brink of a government shutdown, Trump has put Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson in a bind after his criticisms pushed Johnson to scrap a government spending bill that would have allocated three months of federal funding to keep the government open. Republican leaders then introduced a slimmed-down bill that, at the behest of Trump, would suspend the debt ceiling for two years until Jan. 30, 2027. With 38 Republicans voting ‘no’ on the bill, it, too, failed.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

And this is why Elon's high profile is a problem. Trump has not thought through this Elon thing and Elon is walking on him now  

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

Elon is the personification of Peter Thiel's wet dream of Government by Intellectual Elite. He jumped in to support Trump knowing that deep down Trump doubts his own intellect and that he would be able to manipulate him in whatever direction he chooses.

And it's working.

It'll end when Trump gets tired of Elon taking credit for whatever "accomplishments" the new administration wants to tout. I give it till summer.