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I’m just happy Dion and his family are ok.  The jokes can come later.  The poor pilot just lost his life the week before Xmas.  If he has a wife and kids, that sucks, but even if not he has to have parents and siblings.

 

I realize people are trying to make jokes, but a man died.  I’m in on making fun of any AFCE opponent, but not in a tragedy.

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1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

If it’s the house I think it is (at the end of that road), it’s way back off of the street and the yard is enormous.  

 

The bigger issue is the health of the pilot.  I hope he/she survived.  


The news report I saw was that the plane crashed in a wooded area behind houses

Cazenovia Creek appears to run behind there so checks out

 

Those Patriot Fans, man, they'll stop at nothing

 

 

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 I did an LOL on a joke someone made and deleted it. Now Knowing someone was killed I agree there is nothing funny about this even if they werent killed there is nothing funny about it. Quite honestly I should have thought better of it when I did the LOL... I should be better than that and I was wrong.

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

"The same source said that it is possible that an electrical issue caused the crash."

 

strange...

 

What is that "same source"?

 

 

29 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

I’m just happy Dion and his family are ok.  The jokes can come later.  The poor pilot just lost his life the week before Xmas.  If he has a wife and kids, that sucks, but even if not he has to have parents and siblings.

 

I realize people are trying to make jokes, but a man died.  I’m in on making fun of any AFCE opponent, but not in a tragedy.

 

Sorry, I have a kind of "gallows sense of humor", comes from being a former EMT and a pilot

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Says the plane was a 1979 Beechcraft A36 enroute from Lansing, Michigan to White Plains, NY.   So it was just passing through., something obviously went terribly wrong at altitude.  

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38 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Says the plane was a 1979 Beechcraft A36 enroute from Lansing, Michigan to White Plains, NY.   So it was just passing through., something obviously went terribly wrong at altitude.  

Actually, w/ required fuel reserves, it likely would need to refuel, especially flying into a headwind.

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2 hours ago, Simon said:

omg, now he's so out of shape he creates his own gravitational field!

And I thought it was a Russian drone…, 

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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

What is that "same source"?

 

 

 

Sorry, I have a kind of "gallows sense of humor", comes from being a former EMT and a pilot

 

it was online WIVB.com

 

now saying "mechanical issues" and pilot declared emergency.   An electrical failure won't typically bring a plane like that down.

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2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I’m just happy Dion and his family are ok.  The jokes can come later.  The poor pilot just lost his life the week before Xmas.  If he has a wife and kids, that sucks, but even if not he has to have parents and siblings.

 

I realize people are trying to make jokes, but a man died.  I’m in on making fun of any AFCE opponent, but not in a tragedy.

There’s no accounting for…..lots of things.

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

it was online WIVB.com

 

now saying "mechanical issues" and pilot declared emergency.   An electrical failure won't typically bring a plane like that down.

Agreed, but if electrical failure was in the weather...and Buffalo was overcast all day today...could have meant total instrument failure and spacial disorientation leading to an unusual attitude that was unrecoverable.

Whether they were talking to Buffalo approach control or Cleveland Center at the time of the emergency, the ATC tapes will shed a little more light on the nature of the situation.

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1 hour ago, Rich Stadium Original said:

Agreed, but if electrical failure was in the weather...and Buffalo was overcast all day today...could have meant total instrument failure and spacial disorientation leading to an unusual attitude that was unrecoverable.

Whether they were talking to Buffalo approach control or Cleveland Center at the time of the emergency, the ATC tapes will shed a little more light on the nature of the situation.


sounds like he was close to KBUF so probably in contact with approach or even tower.  I don’t know what the ceilings were but sounds like he wax close to the field.  
 

Seems like if they cleared his m for KBUF they felt he would see and make the runway with current ceilings.  They would have directed him to alternate with higher ceilings.  The plane is still flying without electric power.  Radios would be out as well as GPS if he had one.  Flaps might not work but can land without.  Maybe he had glass panels without vacuum backup instructions 

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