Roster moves - includes release of Toohill

[Charles Romes]

30 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Is it hyperbole to say that Spencer Brown is the best offensive lineman in the NFL? 

 

I think he's more Athletic than Sewell and just as dominant a run blocker. 

 

 

Brown does have the highest all-time OT RAS score in the history of RAS scores. 10.0

[Kelly to Allen]

10 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

Brown does have the highest all-time OT RAS score in the history of RAS scores. 10.0

I really hope Doyle can get back 100%. He'll have 2 years fully recovered. 

 

He was improving his rookie year and took a big jump his second year before the knee injury in 22. He then hurt his other knee in 23. 

 

Dude was an monster in run blocking. I'm expecting him to really push to make the roster in 25. 

Edited December 19 by Kelly to Allen

[Aussie Joe]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

52 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

WHY did we release Ankou from the PS

 

the guy has looked solid in games whenever given a chance.  You could make an argument he’s more impactful than DT3 currently is on the depth chart

 

Do Not Like this move.

 

Eli deserves better IMO

 

this only makes some sense if Calais Campbell chooses to come here in the next few weeks if Miami cuts him.

 

Even still, cut someone else.  Dude is a baller

Edited December 19 by Warriorspikes51

[gonzo1105]

5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

WHY did we release Ankou from the PS

 

the guy has looked solid in games whenever given a chance.  You could make an argument he’s more impactful than DT3 currently is on the depth chart

 

Do Not Like this move.

 

Eli deserves better IMO

I agree he deserves better especially when they signed both Phillips and Jefferson over promoting him after his service here. He was a good soldier but outside of a cup of tea elsewhere he has been on our PS now for years and no one in 31 other teams has decided he was worth poaching to keep on a 53. 
 

I think it’s a tad hyperbole to say he was out 3rd best DT but he was serviceable esp as a run defender when called upon 

 

 

[BearNorth]

4 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

Brown does have the highest all-time OT RAS score in the history of RAS scores. 10.0

A 6-8 310 pound guy who runs a 4.94 40, that's some serious momentum.

[f0neguy]

Actually if I remember correctly, Brown, Doyle, and VanDemark have RAS scores in the top 10 of all time.  Not 10%, top 10 period.  These three guys are physical freaks that came out of college very raw.  If they learn the game they can absolutely destroy their opponents.

[Richard Noggin]

9 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

Brown does have the highest all-time OT RAS score in the history of RAS scores. 10.0

 

Nerd question: over time, as new prospects test into the 99th and 100th percentiles (which they invariably will), will past RAS scores need to be adjusted to account for this? (mathematically this would be necessary/automatic)

 

Or, does each RAS score essentially lock in each prospect's historical ranking AT THAT TIME? Seems like it would become harder each successive year to score a 10, for example, because these athletes tend to get bigger, faster, and stronger all the time. So you're forever competing against improving competition (when compared to some prospect from years ago). 

[Sierra Foothills]

9 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

Nerd question: over time, as new prospects test into the 99th and 100th percentiles (which they invariably will), will past RAS scores need to be adjusted to account for this? (mathematically this would be necessary/automatic)

 

Or, does each RAS score essentially lock in each prospect's historical ranking AT THAT TIME? Seems like it would become harder each successive year to score a 10, for example, because these athletes tend to get bigger, faster, and stronger all the time. So you're forever competing against improving competition (when compared to some prospect from years ago). 

 

Interesting point.

 

I'm not an analytics guy so I don't know... but I would say that when Xavier Worthy broke the 40 time at the combine this past April, he broke a record which had stood since 2017.

 

Analogously, Usain Bolt set the 100 meter record in 2009.

 

I think we're close to the ceiling on a lot of these performance drills so I think the effect on "re-calibrating" RASs will be minutely incremental.

 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, f0neguy said:

Actually if I remember correctly, Brown, Doyle, and VanDemark have RAS scores in the top 10 of all time.  Not 10%, top 10 period.  These three guys are physical freaks that came out of college very raw.  If they learn the game they can absolutely destroy their opponents.

Doyle 12th

 

Van Denmark 68th best

 

[f0neguy]

Thanks for looking that up 👍.  Not top 10 but still pretty good.

[GunnerBill]

15 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Is it hyperbole to say that Spencer Brown is the best offensive lineman in the NFL? 

 

I think he's more Athletic than Sewell and just as dominant a run blocker. 

 

 

 

Yes. Penei Sewell is going to end up one of the best to ever do it. He is destined for the HOF. 

 

But take Sewell out (who is a left tackle playing at right tackle while they still have Decker) and Brown has been the next best RT in the NFL this season IMO. If I was voting for All Pro they'd be my two voted. Sewell 1st team, Brown 2nd team.

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, f0neguy said:

Actually if I remember correctly, Brown, Doyle, and VanDemark have RAS scores in the top 10 of all time.  Not 10%, top 10 period.  These three guys are physical freaks that came out of college very raw.  If they learn the game they can absolutely destroy their opponents.

 

Grable is right up there too. He was a 9.83. They like athleticism and length in their tackles.

[CSBill]

7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Nerd question: over time, as new prospects test into the 99th and 100th percentiles (which they invariably will), will past RAS scores need to be adjusted to account for this? (mathematically this would be necessary/automatic)

 

Or, does each RAS score essentially lock in each prospect's historical ranking AT THAT TIME? Seems like it would become harder each successive year to score a 10, for example, because these athletes tend to get bigger, faster, and stronger all the time. So you're forever competing against improving competition (when compared to some prospect from years ago). 

 

That is an interesting and thoughtful question—way to use your noggin, Noggin.

[Spiderweb]

On 12/17/2024 at 7:01 PM, Mark Vader said:

Are they sitting under a portrait of Phil Hansen?

Are you trying to throw Jansen in with Kelsey, Denny, and Toohill? Hansen was a damn good player, totally unlike those guys. Jeez.....🤬🤬🤬

[Mark Vader]

5 hours ago, Spiderweb said:

Are you trying to throw Jansen in with Kelsey, Denny, and Toohill? Hansen was a damn good player, totally unlike those guys. Jeez.....🤬🤬🤬

The joke is that Phil Hansen was so good that there would be a portrait of him in this establishment, meaning that guys like Kelsay, Denny & Toohill could only dream of being as good as he was.

 

I would never disrespect Phil Hansen.

[Wacka]

On 12/17/2024 at 7:48 PM, Beck Water said:

 

? Smoot is currently on the roster?

Smoot played vs Detroit

[BearNorth]

On 12/19/2024 at 12:27 PM, Kelly to Allen said:

I really hope Doyle can get back 100%. He'll have 2 years fully recovered. 

 

He was improving his rookie year and took a big jump his second year before the knee injury in 22. He then hurt his other knee in 23. 

 

Dude was an monster in run blocking. I'm expecting him to really push to make the roster in 25. 

Doyle is an Unrestricted Free Agent in 2025, wonder if some other team will take a gamble on him in free agency.