Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 16 Posted December 16 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We just let a guy with tiny hands throw for almost 500 yards on us. NO!!!! Seems like they picked on Spector and Lewis a ton. Idk how bishop played but I’m gonna watch again. I was too invested in the game to pay too much attention to specific guys lol 1 Quote
Simon Posted December 16 Posted December 16 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Bishop, not yet sold. He's clearly not used to running with guys that can move like Jameson Williams. His angles are off and he's going to need to adjust them to be in position. Fortunately I think he can; and the best way to practice that might be to get him "up to speed" over the next 3 weeks. 5 9 Quote
Sojourner Posted December 16 Posted December 16 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It was mainly Bernard actually. St Brown was 4 for 4 matched against Elam but only for 38 yards. Bernard gave up 158 yards on 9 targets. yeah, but I’m trying to see who “worked” Elam. The only catch he gave up to Williams was one that included a questionable push off at the top of his route. Im not the biggest Elam fan but people seem to just designate him as borderline useless whilst others get a complete pass. Given his lack of playing time and the matchup St. Brown brings, I thought he was pretty darn good. 4 5 Quote
Simon Posted December 16 Posted December 16 3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Seems like they picked on Spector and Lewis a ton. Idk how bishop played but I’m gonna watch again. I was too invested in the game to pay too much attention to specific guys lol I thought Bishop looked very good supporting the run; decisive and willing to put his face in the fan. Jameson Williams' speed was new to him and he'll need to get better by adjusting his angles to guys that can run like that. Most of the completions that came in his general area seemed to me to be more of a LB or Lewis issue. 1 2 Quote
BananaB Posted December 16 Posted December 16 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I thought Elam was getting worked. Bishop is a big play waiting to happen for the opponents offense. Elam was hardly noticeable yesterday. A few plays but nothing serious. When you give up 500 yards passing and 5 TDs it’s probably a good thing your not noticed. Other then Benfords sack and forced fumble he got worked all game. The safety play was pretty bad, all 3 guys that got time. Taron had a rough day as well. LBers were awful Edited December 16 by BananaB 2 Quote
NewEra Posted December 16 Posted December 16 12 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Worked by who? LaPorta and St. Brown put up 304 yards between the 2 of them. He was mostly matched up with Tim Patrick and Williams If anyone got worked it was Taron, no? And cam lewis. i do love Cams heart and no fear mentality when squaring up on a ball carrier. It’s just tough sledding when he’s not squared up 2 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted December 16 Posted December 16 One thing I really struggle with is why Elam has been inactive. Regardless, it’s good to know he can jump in if Douglas or Benford are hurt. Still don’t know what we have with Bishop as he can’t stay healthy enough to get on the field consistently. Overall, the core issue on D is the DL. If you can’t consistently sack the QB or get pressure, almost any NFL QB will pick you apart! Quote
Simon Posted December 16 Posted December 16 12 minutes ago, Sojourner said: If anyone got worked it was Taron, no? I thought Taron had a very nice bounceback game. And I agree with your other post that Elam was just fine last night. Not only in coverage, but without his physical hustle, Milano probably does not recover that fumble. 1 Quote
pi2000 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 The 500 yards given up was mostly due to game script. 1 Quote
Snappysnackcakes Posted December 16 Posted December 16 What I think needs to happen is a more simplified defensive game plan, as was the case yesterday. We won’t have to play another game in a dome unless we make the Super Bowl. This makes me happy because we just get diced up by good QB’s in controlled environments. Yes, I consider LA a controlled environment. Quote
SoTier Posted December 16 Posted December 16 9 minutes ago, Simon said: He's clearly not used to running with guys that can move like Jameson Williams. His angles are off and he's going to need to adjust them to be in position. Fortunately I think he can; and the best way to practice that might be to get him "up to speed" over the next 3 weeks. The next three weeks should enable the Bills to get all the youngsters/subs on both sides of the ball some real game experience. 5 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 16 Posted December 16 11 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Worked by who? LaPorta and St. Brown put up 304 yards between the 2 of them. He was mostly matched up with Tim Patrick and Williams If anyone got worked it was Taron, no? They didn’t go at him a ton but when they did it was a catch. He probably had the worst rep of any CB vs Williams on an 18 yard reception. It was man and Williams just made Elam disappear. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 26 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Agreed! A QB man should have man hands! 3 Quote
Jauronimo Posted December 16 Posted December 16 24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It was mainly Bernard actually. St Brown was 4 for 4 matched against Elam but only for 38 yards. Bernard gave up 158 yards on 9 targets. What is your source for DB stats? Quote
BananaB Posted December 16 Posted December 16 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They didn’t go at him a ton but when they did it was a catch. He probably had the worst rep of any CB vs Williams on an 18 yard reception. It was man and Williams just made Elam disappear. The one where Williams pushed him on the back right before he came back for the ball? Probably should of been OPI 1 Quote
Simon Posted December 16 Posted December 16 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He probably had the worst rep of any CB vs Williams on an 18 yard reception. It was man and Williams just made Elam disappear. If it was the same one I was thinking of I don't think they were in man. I think it was zone with Elam having a deep third. Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 16 Posted December 16 Really needed a 3rd choice of maybe. If there I'd have voted maybe instead of yes. Barring Douglas willing to take a discount for next season, I think Elam will be the starting CB 2 Quote
BearNorth Posted December 16 Posted December 16 44 minutes ago, Comebackkid said: Kair would be nice... he does have some speed Not enough to catch St. Brown from behind 1 Quote
BananaB Posted December 16 Posted December 16 2 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Not enough to catch St. Brown from behind Enough to run past the other 3 Bills chasing him. 😂 1 2 1 Quote
PoundingDog Posted December 16 Posted December 16 Elam's tackling still needs work. He's trying to pry the ball out instead of tackling too many times. Bishop is way too conservative on passing plays, as in try not to get beat deep. I think Romo even said that to the tune of the safety can tighten up in the middle some. In other words, Bishop is not playing free at the moment, which is understandable at this stage of her NFL career. 3 Quote
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