Anyone else want to keep seeing Elam and Bishop on the field after yesterday?

[3rdand12]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

raw ability as a DB?

College Tape perhaps

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

College Tape perhaps

 

too late to be looking at college tape---it's the kids 3rd FNL season.  every 1st round bust had great tape and "raw talent"

 

 

[3rdand12]

10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

too late to be looking at college tape---it's the kids 3rd FNL season.  every 1st round bust had great tape and "raw talent"

 

 

It was a response to "raw potential " as you know.

But I always go back to Coaching regardless.

 Maybe he had the nerves today ?

Has he started before this week ?

I read FNL and and laughed for all the wrong reasons WEO

FNFL is what i saw somehow

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

It was a response to "raw potential " as you know.

But I always go back to Coaching regardless.

 Maybe he had the nerves today ?

Has he started before this week ?

I read FNL and and laughed for all the wrong reasons WEO

FNFL is what i saw somehow

 

the coaching has decided he shouldn't start many games.  this hasn't changed in 3 years. 

 

the guy gets beaten off the line then grabs the jersey of the guy who beat him.  he's not in the SEC anymore...

[Sierra Foothills]

32 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

raw ability as a DB?

 

25 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

College Tape perhaps

 

Raw Ability = Measurables

 

[LABILLBACKER]

I think Elam will be traded this offseason for a 5th round pick. I think Hyde will be asked to become a Safeties coach to work with Bishop & Cine.  Hamlin will be the first safety replaced next season.

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

Raw Ability = Measurables

 

 

like....Combine?

[H2o]

8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I think Elam will be traded this offseason for a 5th round pick. I think Hyde will be asked to become a Safeties coach to work with Bishop & Cine.  Hamlin will be the first safety replaced next season.

More like a hot dog and a Pepsi 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Spending a second rounder on a safety is already bad but desperately needing safety help right away, I can grin and bear it.

 

That safety being nowhere close is just brutal.

 

I confess I was pretty happy with the pick. I am shocked at how far off ready he looks mentally. I know he missed camp and that is tough for a rook but he was a good college player, he is a second round pick, at some point you just gotta get out there and play up to it.

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

He's really struggling to adjust to the speed he's seeing out there; it does not look like Utah.

I think he'll get the timing and angles down eventually but it's an adventure right now.

I hope he plays 60:00 next week too; the more the better.

Plus the Bills can then play coy about who's starting the first playoff game.

 

Yea to be clear I am not calling him a bust at this point. But I am writing off any chance he makes a meaningful impact this year. Give him another start next week with the backups, then make sure he is fully healthy for OTAs and start at ground zero install as if he just walked on campus. 

[Shaw66]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I confess I was pretty happy with the pick. I am shocked at how far off ready he looks mentally. I know he missed camp and that is tough for a rook but he was a good college player, he is a second round pick, at some point you just gotta get out there and play up to it.

I agree, but I give pretty much every rookie a first season pass.  I think Bishop's playing better, but not what I expected.  I was interested to see him in the second half today turning around and asking Rapp presnap what to do. I mean, it's a good thing he's asking, but at this point in the season I would have expected him to be beyond those questions. 

 

If he isn't starting next season, I'll be disappointed. 

[Maine-iac]

28 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

the coaching has decided he shouldn't start many games.  this hasn't changed in 3 years. 

 

the guy gets beaten off the line then grabs the jersey of the guy who beat him.  he's not in the SEC anymore...

To his credit the coaching has decided he shouldn't start many games because we have Benford and Douglas.  If the decision was between Levi Wallace and Elam I think he'd have made it onto the field by now.  

[Mr. WEO]

42 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

To his credit the coaching has decided he shouldn't start many games because we have Benford and Douglas.  If the decision was between Levi Wallace and Elam I think he'd have made it onto the field by now.  

 

He's not better than Levi yet.

[Maine-iac]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

He's not better than Levi yet.

In your opinion.  I think that's pretty debatable.

[BuffaloBillyG]

56 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

To his credit the coaching has decided he shouldn't start many games because we have Benford and Douglas.  If the decision was between Levi Wallace and Elam I think he'd have made it onto the field by now.  

Of course, you could also point out that last year given the option of starting Elam or burning draft capital to acquire a starter once Tre White went down, they determined that it's better to spend extra on someone else rather than allow him to start.

 

At this point his competition isn't so much Benford and Douglas. It's Ingram. And Ingram adds to the special teams where Elam doesn't as much. 

[Mr. WEO]

21 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

In your opinion.  I think that's pretty debatable.

what are you basing you debate opinion on?

[Albany,n.y.]

Elam should be out there every down next week vs NE.  

[3rdand12]

14 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Elam should be out there every down next week vs NE.  

and Bishop
trial by small fire  (patriots( works for me

 Ingram as well

Edited December 30, 2024 by 3rdand12