transplantbillsfan Posted Monday at 09:40 PM Posted Monday at 09:40 PM I understand that after a game where Goff throws for nearly 500 yards this seems like a ridiculous question--and maybe it is. Personally, I thought our secondary just looked so much faster yesterday than all season. Obviously Bishop and Elam are a big influence there. But aside from speed, I thought they played pretty well as the game began in particular. Elam was only targeted a couple times in the first half and even though St. Brown got a couple catches there Elam tackled him for very short gains. Bishop gave up a longer pass to St. Brown, but soon after Goff threw a bomb to Williams who looked like he kinda torched Bishop at first and then it seemed at first he just dropped the ball, but after watching a few times it looks like Bishop's athleticisms helped him to recover enough to get a hand in there and maybe break up the pass. In the first half, Goff was 11/20 for 2 TDs and 161 yards, but he was 2/4 for 15 yards in the 1st quarter and was sacked twice and then the Bills were up 14 points. One of those 2 completions was on a 2nd and 18 dumpoff to St. Brown where Elam was right there and tackled him for a short 5 yard gain. After that point it just felt like our D knew how inevitable Allen and the offense were so it was fine to let the Lions become one dimensional and play them the way they did. Even with all the completions and yards for Goff, there were still a lot of plays where the defenders were close to making a negative play. 1 Quote
Marv Levy Posted Monday at 09:47 PM Posted Monday at 09:47 PM Not enough on field playing time to answer honestly. It was only one game. Douglas has been excellent so hopefully he'll be back soon. I like Bishop, but like I said, I need to see more of him. 2 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted Monday at 09:48 PM Posted Monday at 09:48 PM (edited) Elam for Douglas matchup wise the way this season has been going I can get behind, I’m not so sure about bishop for Hamlin yet. Douglas was great last year and this year has seemed pretty mediocre to me. Maybe he can get it switched back on though Edited Monday at 09:49 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan 2 5 Quote
Comebackkid Posted Monday at 09:49 PM Posted Monday at 09:49 PM im really rooting for Bishop. i think if he can get his head around everything his athleticism will pay dividends. He was punching pretty good at the ball on one play i seen. Kiar would be nice... he does have some speed Quote
Doc Brown Posted Monday at 09:49 PM Posted Monday at 09:49 PM We just let a guy with tiny hands throw for almost 500 yards on us. NO!!!! 2 8 Quote
Comebackkid Posted Monday at 09:51 PM Posted Monday at 09:51 PM 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: We just let a guy with tiny hands throw for almost 500 yards on us. NO!!!! they played right into our game plan 😀 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted Monday at 09:51 PM Posted Monday at 09:51 PM I thought Elam was getting worked. Bishop is a big play waiting to happen for the opponents offense. 1 3 Quote
Sojourner Posted Monday at 09:52 PM Posted Monday at 09:52 PM 3 minutes ago, Marv Levy said: Not enough on field playing time to answer honestly. It was only one game. Douglas has been excellent so hopefully he'll be back soon. I like Bishop, but like I said, I need to see more of him. Excellent? Man, for all the hate I see Damar, Elam, Lewis and other guys from the secondary how is he getting a pass to the level of that quality? There’s been a couple games he’s been absolutely brutal to watch this season. 2 Quote
Sweats Posted Monday at 09:54 PM Posted Monday at 09:54 PM I mean, i don't want to be "that guy", but any time Hamlin is not on the field is a good day. I love the guy, i love his story, i love his heart and passion, but this is no big secret that his skills are lacking, so......... 2 3 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Monday at 09:54 PM Posted Monday at 09:54 PM Elam, yes. Bishop, not yet sold. 8 1 2 Quote
MJS Posted Monday at 09:55 PM Posted Monday at 09:55 PM Sure. But not if that means benching the starters, but if they can get rotated in to play some, or get more playing time while starters heal up, I'm fine with that. 1 minute ago, Sweats said: I mean, i don't want to be "that guy", but any time Hamlin is not on the field is a good day. I love the guy, i love his story, i love his heart and passion, but this is no big secret that his skills are lacking, so......... Hamlin and Rapp have been great tacklers, and we missed that for sure. Lewis also took some bad angles that Rapp would not have had he been in there. 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted Monday at 09:56 PM Posted Monday at 09:56 PM 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I thought Elam was getting worked. Bishop is a big play waiting to happen for the opponents offense. Worked by who? LaPorta and St. Brown put up 304 yards between the 2 of them. He was mostly matched up with Tim Patrick and Williams If anyone got worked it was Taron, no? 5 Quote
billieve420 Posted Monday at 09:56 PM Posted Monday at 09:56 PM Starters need to be 100% healthy before seeing field again in the regular season if I was the head coach. Give the backups some reps during games as well. 2 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted Monday at 09:58 PM Posted Monday at 09:58 PM I think there is very little possibility that McD doesn’t start Hamlin and Douglas if fit… Quote
Mikie2times Posted Monday at 09:58 PM Posted Monday at 09:58 PM 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We just let a guy with tiny hands throw for almost 500 yards on us. NO!!!! 1 2 Quote
Doc Brown Posted Monday at 09:59 PM Posted Monday at 09:59 PM 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I thought Elam was getting worked. Bishop is a big play waiting to happen for the opponents offense. I thought Elam played well watching it live. Much better than Bishop. Would have to re-watch the game though. 1 Quote
MJS Posted Monday at 09:59 PM Posted Monday at 09:59 PM 2 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Worked by who? LaPorta and St. Brown put up 304 yards between the 2 of them. He was mostly matched up with Tim Patrick and Williams If anyone got worked it was Taron, no? Benford got beat a bit too. 1 Quote
finn Posted Monday at 10:00 PM Posted Monday at 10:00 PM I'd like to see both of them gain experience and confidence. They're young and athletic and should improve fast with time on task. Hamlin has already hit his (low) ceiling, and Douglas' play has dropped quite a bit from last year. He's solid but not an asset. Elam has potential. Maybe he can play his way out of McDermott's mysterious (to us) doghouse. 1 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted Monday at 10:00 PM Posted Monday at 10:00 PM No. Nyet. Nada. Elam, while he hasn’t looked horrible, has the benefit of opposing offenses not having tape on him, which I think plays in his favor. He just hasn’t shown me enough, and apparently he hasn’t shown the Bills brass enough either. Bishop, while I see potential, I also see him giving up big plays at the worst possible time. Not their time yet. It’s a next year question IMO. 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Monday at 10:02 PM Posted Monday at 10:02 PM 3 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Worked by who? LaPorta and St. Brown put up 304 yards between the 2 of them. He was mostly matched up with Tim Patrick and Williams If anyone got worked it was Taron, no? It was mainly Bernard actually. St Brown was 4 for 4 matched against Elam but only for 38 yards. Bernard gave up 158 yards on 9 targets. 2 1 2 1 Quote
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