Billever76 Posted Monday at 07:13 PM Posted Monday at 07:13 PM (edited) 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Can Josh sack a Quarterback with one hand than smash his head to the turf? No..... Can Bruce Smith evade the fastest, strongest players in the league(today's players are bigger,stronger,faster) and throw a 70 yard missile on a rope while on the run? No ........ Edited Monday at 07:14 PM by Billever76 1 1 Quote
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted Monday at 07:13 PM Posted Monday at 07:13 PM 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Can Josh sack a Quarterback with one hand than smash his head to the turf? No..... Probably if given the chance! 1 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted Monday at 07:17 PM Posted Monday at 07:17 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Can I vote for Bobby Chandler? -said sheepishly.. Sure. I remember a Chandler catch as he was falling out of bounds but managed to keep the tips of his toes inbounds. I searched for a video of the catch on youtube, but couldn't find it. This isn't the catch I remember but it's pretty close. Edited Monday at 07:19 PM by GASabresIUFan 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Monday at 08:05 PM Posted Monday at 08:05 PM 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: He is the all-time NFL leader in TDs/game in the history of the NFL. That's not bias, that's simply something never seen before in the history of the NFL. He is the most productive player on a per game basis of all-time. It's not even close. It's Allen I'm so torn. JK means a lot to me personally,and completely changed the culture and path of the Bills when he arrived. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Monday at 08:13 PM Posted Monday at 08:13 PM Lots of good reasons to go with Bruce, Jimbo, and others but I have to say in my 60+ years of fandom it's Josh Allen. 1 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 08:13 PM Posted Monday at 08:13 PM 7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I'm so torn. JK means a lot to me personally,and completely changed the culture and path of the Bills when he arrived. That's fine, but even Kelly would admit he wasn't on Allen's level, and has. 1 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Monday at 08:15 PM Posted Monday at 08:15 PM Just now, Big Turk said: That's fine, but even Kelly would admit he wasn't on Allen's level, and has. Talent wise, it's not close. Elway is a good comparison to Josh, but Josh is more talented than Elway was. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 08:18 PM Posted Monday at 08:18 PM 2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Talent wise, it's not close. Elway is a good comparison to Josh, but Josh is more talented than Elway was. Could you imagine what Allen would do with 2 HOF WR's in Reed and Lofton and a HOF RB in Thomas? 1 1 Quote
billsbackto81 Posted Monday at 08:24 PM Posted Monday at 08:24 PM 4 hours ago, HOUSE said: Most of you guys were not born when Bruce Smith played and it shows Peep the avatar dude. 👍 Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 08:27 PM Posted Monday at 08:27 PM 4 hours ago, HOUSE said: Most of you guys were not born when Bruce Smith played and it shows I watched every game Smith played in. He was an immense talent. But Allen has so much more control of the game than Smith does with the ball in his hand every play. 3 Quote
BRH Posted Monday at 08:31 PM Posted Monday at 08:31 PM 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Bruce was great, dont want to diminish him at all. But he was able to take plenty of plays off and still look good. Josh doesnt have that luxury. Bruce would also schedule his surgeries so he would have to spend as little time at training camp as possible, and when he didn't have a surgery he'd hold out anyway. And then he'd come back and make a ridiculous play in his first game and you'd be like, yeah... he's worth the money and the hassle. He just was. Except when he didn't get his flu shot. 😡 As great as Bruce was.... it's Josh and it's not close. Seems he's doing something literally every game that no quarterback has ever done before. We are blessed. 1 Quote
Bills Fan in MD Posted Monday at 08:35 PM Posted Monday at 08:35 PM It's still Bruce. He was a game changer for more than a decade. Josh very well may get there but it's still too soon. 1 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 08:39 PM Posted Monday at 08:39 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bills Fan in MD said: It's still Bruce. He was a game changer for more than a decade. Josh very well may get there but it's still too soon. How can you be more of a game changer than the player who is literally the most productive player in the history of the NFL on a per game basis? Make it make sense. Allen does the most important thing in the NFL, score touchdowns, better than anyone who has ever lived. Personally I find that statement to be absurd. Edited Monday at 08:41 PM by Big Turk 3 Quote
BillsVet Posted Monday at 08:46 PM Posted Monday at 08:46 PM 3 hours ago, Peace Frog said: Bad things man! That's what happens when people don't vote for Bruce LOL. He was DPOY in 1990 and 1996 an 8x 1st team All-Pro and 3x 2nd teamer. I could see Allen down the road, even though they played in different eras where passing is vastly different. But Bruce remains given the career length and dominance. 2 hours ago, dorquemada said: Without Moorman who would we have put on the Media Guide for that long dark period Out of his own end zone no less where you could have, as a ST holder, your name on the Jumbotron. If memory serves, it was from the 2009 Cleveland game Buffalo lost 6-3 where Derek Anderson completed 2 passes for the Browns. Ughh. What marketing genius thought up that angle? Quote
BarleyNY Posted Monday at 08:48 PM Posted Monday at 08:48 PM 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Josh gets the nod because QB is so much more important than RB and DE in the modern game. If you are starting a franchise and get to select one player, its not even a decision. Not just because of importance, but also degree of difficulty. QB is arguably the most difficult position to play in any sport. Quote
Returntoglory Posted Monday at 08:58 PM Posted Monday at 08:58 PM 2 hours ago, eball said: He already owns multiple NFL records/firsts and seems to be creating new categories almost weekly. If Josh's career continues on its current trajectory he's a no-doubt first ballot HOFer. I don't need to see more to know that. Josh Allen’s impact on the game is undeniable. His combination of athleticism, arm strength, and leadership has already etched his name in the NFL record books. If he maintains this level of play, while adding postseason success, a first-ballot Hall of Fame nod feels inevitable. Still, the journey ahead will define just how high his legacy can soar. Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted Monday at 08:59 PM Posted Monday at 08:59 PM For the moment it is Bruce, who was dominant for a long time, 12 years of double digit sacks in Buffalo. Josh will pass him most likely but Josh only has 5 years of domination. I would expect in 2029 Josh will be the GOAT Bill and a top 5 QB all time. Quote
dorquemada Posted Monday at 09:24 PM Posted Monday at 09:24 PM 37 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Bad things man! That's what happens when people don't vote for Bruce LOL. He was DPOY in 1990 and 1996 an 8x 1st team All-Pro and 3x 2nd teamer. I could see Allen down the road, even though they played in different eras where passing is vastly different. But Bruce remains given the career length and dominance. Out of his own end zone no less where you could have, as a ST holder, your name on the Jumbotron. If memory serves, it was from the 2009 Cleveland game Buffalo lost 6-3 where Derek Anderson completed 2 passes for the Browns. Ughh. What marketing genius thought up that angle? sometimes you just gotta embrace the suck Quote
BillsVet Posted Monday at 09:56 PM Posted Monday at 09:56 PM 31 minutes ago, dorquemada said: sometimes you just gotta embrace the suck You former military? My battalion commander said that all the time in Iraq. Quote
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