Week 16 - Patriots at Bills Game Week Thread (Game at 4:25pm ET)

[zow2]

  On 12/22/2024 at 12:24 AM, CincyBillsFan said:

I disagree.  We have increased the likelihood of getting at least the #2 seed. 

 

On top of that, Pittsburgh will be highly motivated Wednesday against the Chiefs since they win their division if they win out.  And if Denver loses to the Bengal's, which is very possible, the KC/Denver game at Mile High will be make or break for the Broncos.  I never saw the Chiefs being beat by an average Houston team at Arrowhead.  The two losses the Bills need from KC were always going to come at Pitt & Denver, if they came at all.

 

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Agree with this.  I was totally on board with a Ravens win today just so Pittsburgh comes out blazing on Christmas day against the Chiefs.  They’ve lost 2 in a row. Division and seed on the line. I expect them to be very physical vs KC.  Tomlin won’t let them lose 3 in a row without some serious fight.

 

I always thought Denver had a great chance to win that last game. Payton and the Broncos want to beat KC in the worst way. That would be great if Denver needs the game to make the playoffs. I think they will show up big at home.

[Johnnycage46]

  On 12/22/2024 at 2:09 AM, SaulGoodman said:

Wentz wasn’t winning this. It took a solid effort from Mahomes and two turnovers to win. Stroud’s good.

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Horrible take. Stroud is very overrated. Wentz could have easily won this game. Mahomes this year is really just running the offense and isn't doing anything miraculous. Teams usually meltdown when they play KC. Once Dell went down and the Texans started crying all over themselves it was over.

[AkwiredTste]

  On 12/22/2024 at 3:32 AM, Johnnycage46 said:

Horrible take. Stroud is very overrated. Wentz could have easily won this game. Mahomes this year is really just running the offense and isn't doing anything miraculous. Teams usually meltdown when they play KC. Once Dell went down and the Texans started crying all over themselves it was over.

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But, but, but Stroud ranked himself top 5 🙄

[boyst]

  On 12/22/2024 at 2:09 AM, SaulGoodman said:

Wentz wasn’t winning this. It took a solid effort from Mahomes and two turnovers to win. Stroud’s good.

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Mahomes didn't win that game for them. His few scrambles weren't significant enough to make the win. 

[SaulGoodman]

  On 12/22/2024 at 4:17 AM, boyst said:

Mahomes didn't win that game for them. His few scrambles weren't significant enough to make the win. 

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If they’d needed a score on the last drive, they’d have scored 30+ vs one of the top defenses. In only 9 drives. Wentz wasn’t matching that. Especially with the pressure he was facing. 

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[BillsFan130]

  On 12/22/2024 at 4:51 AM, SaulGoodman said:

If they’d needed a score on the last drive, they’d have scored 30+ vs one of the top defenses. In only 9 drives. Wentz wasn’t matching that. Especially with the pressure he was facing. 

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Was there one throw that really impressed you today? 40 percent of their passing yards came on man beaters to the backs on swing routes. It was way more Andy than Mahomes today 

 

Houston is a good defence, but they were down about 3-4 key starters

 

 

[YattaOkasan]

  On 12/22/2024 at 5:21 AM, BillsFan130 said:

Was there one throw that really impressed you today? 40 percent of their passing yards came on man beaters to the backs on swing routes. It was way more Andy than Mahomes today 

 

Houston is a good defence, but they were down about 3-4 key starters

 

 

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I said to my wife they did their homework and def watched bills lions like the rest of us. 

[Breakout Squad]

Bills-Pats thread, no? 🤓

[Richard Noggin]

  On 12/22/2024 at 6:05 AM, Breakout Squad said:

Bills-Pats thread, no? 🤓

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Bills fans appear to be doing the oft-dreaded "over-looking" thing. Someone ought to warn us about letdowns or trap games or whatever. Because we all know that fans need to be disciplined and take it one week at a time. Or else. (none of this directed at you necessarily)

[SaulGoodman]

  On 12/22/2024 at 5:21 AM, BillsFan130 said:

Was there one throw that really impressed you today? 40 percent of their passing yards came on man beaters to the backs on swing routes. It was way more Andy than Mahomes today 

 

Houston is a good defence, but they were down about 3-4 key starters

 

 

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They might be down a few but they’ve still had elite numbers, and they were getting a lot of pressure in this game. Which Wentz wouldn’t have handled nearly as well. He definitely wouldn’t have been able to replicate the scrambles or the rushing TD. 
 

Don’t forget that Allen went 9-30 for 131 vs Houston. Yet you think Wentz could carve them up?

[UKBillFan]

  On 12/22/2024 at 6:28 AM, SaulGoodman said:

They might be down a few but they’ve still had elite numbers, and they were getting a lot of pressure in this game. Which Wentz wouldn’t have handled nearly as well. He definitely wouldn’t have been able to replicate the scrambles or the rushing TD. 
 

Don’t forget that Allen went 9-30 for 131 vs Houston. Yet you think Wentz could carve them up?

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Josh had a poor first half against Houston, no denying that. That was more down to him than the Texans, though, as shown by the second half performance.

 

But most of us on here are Bills fans. We're going to look at thing through the prism of Buffalo and that may lead to takes which may seem unfair or unrealistic on the outside looking in. You don't have to leap down the throat of every single comment which isn't worshipping at the feet of St Patrick or the Chiefs. Deep down we know they're good and will be a challenge on the post season as always.

[Boo Radley Boston]

  On 12/19/2024 at 4:21 PM, Don Otreply said:

Weck my friend, Weck…, 

Did you mean John Wick per chance, 

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Beef on wick.

[Simon]

  On 12/22/2024 at 11:18 AM, Boo Radley Boston said:

Beef on wick.

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Exactly how many different people have to tell you that it's beef on weck, not wick.

[Boo Radley Boston]

  On 12/19/2024 at 4:31 PM, Mat68 said:

Watching Allen and this team the last 5 plus years its obvious.  Thats the difference between good teams and bad ones.  Bad ones find a way to lose.  Mistakes and errors.  With salary caps, draft order and pretty equal resources it comes down to coaching and qb play.  Every team gets bad calls good teams eat it and move on.  They make enough plays where that doesn't decided it.  When given a chance they capitalize, bad teams do not.  

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Spot on.

 

I always say the bad calls even out and that you make your own luck.

 

Allen and the Bills know what they must do to beat KC and go to the Super Bowl. Play virtually mistake free and put enough points on the board to where Mahomes cannot come back and the refs are irrelevant bystanders. It time. Time for Allen to take the next step into the elite class of NFL QBs. Rolling into to KC and taking out Mahomes and the Chiefs does that for me. To be the best you must beat the best.

 

McDermott has done a good job this year holding Allen back so that hes not all beat up at this point in the season.

 

 

  On 12/22/2024 at 11:27 AM, Simon said:

 

Exactly how many different people have to tell you that it's beef on weck, not wick.

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Beef on wack?

 

Is that a Bills mafia thing.

[Boo Radley Boston]

  On 12/22/2024 at 6:27 AM, Richard Noggin said:

 

Bills fans appear to be doing the oft-dreaded "over-looking" thing. Someone ought to warn us about letdowns or trap games or whatever. Because we all know that fans need to be disciplined and take it one week at a time. Or else. (none of this directed at you necessarily)

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The Pats are not beating Buffalo.

 

Not this game. Maybe game 17 if Buffalo sits all their players and sends out drunken Buffalo fans in the stands. Even then it would come down to a FG.

  On 12/22/2024 at 4:17 AM, boyst said:

Mahomes didn't win that game for them. His few scrambles weren't significant enough to make the win. 

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How about that high ankle sprain?

 

His leg was wrapped in ice like a 30 of Natty Light after the game.

[Boo Radley Boston]

  On 12/22/2024 at 11:27 AM, Simon said:

 

Exactly how many different people have to tell you that it's beef on weck, not wick.

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OK Francis.

[klos63]

  On 12/22/2024 at 4:17 AM, boyst said:

Mahomes didn't win that game for them. His few scrambles weren't significant enough to make the win. 

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One of his scrambles was a 15 yard  TD run. They won by a td.

[boyst]

  On 12/22/2024 at 4:51 AM, SaulGoodman said:

If they’d needed a score on the last drive, they’d have scored 30+ vs one of the top defenses. In only 9 drives. Wentz wasn’t matching that. Especially with the pressure he was facing. 

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I bet the only reason the bills beat the lions was because the lions defense was missing so many pieces and Mahomes type play Allen did, huh?

  On 12/22/2024 at 6:28 AM, SaulGoodman said:

They might be down a few but they’ve still had elite numbers, and they were getting a lot of pressure in this game. Which Wentz wouldn’t have handled nearly as well. He definitely wouldn’t have been able to replicate the scrambles or the rushing TD. 
 

Don’t forget that Allen went 9-30 for 131 vs Houston. Yet you think Wentz could carve them up?

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Allen was missing key starters on offense and the offense was struggling at that time. 

 

I guess your chiefs homerness is showing, mr collinsworth 

  On 12/22/2024 at 11:53 AM, Boo Radley Boston said:

The Pats are not beating Buffalo.

 

Not this game. Maybe game 17 if Buffalo sits all their players and sends out drunken Buffalo fans in the stands. Even then it would come down to a FG.

How about that high ankle sprain?

 

His leg was wrapped in ice like a 30 of Natty Light after the game.

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K? And it's not hard to play through pain and get some assistance with meds.  He will be fine the rest of the year. 

[boyst]

  On 12/22/2024 at 12:56 PM, klos63 said:

One of his scrambles was a 15 yard  TD run. They won by a td.

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One of his fumbles was a fumble 6.

 

Wait....never, it was Mahomes.

 

I don't buy that Wentz wouldn't have won that game. Not even a bit. The offense has enough weapons and the defense finally dug in once the Texans lost Dell.

 

Dell had more influence than Mahomes on that game. Not just for the loss of him as a player but the toll it took on the boohoo Texans. 

[Deadstroke]

Okay, I need TV help.  I'm in Florida and the cable shows just one game at 4:25, and that's Jacksonville at Las Vegas.  I went to Paramount Plus and nothing there either.  What am I missing?