Interesting scenario... Bills may have nothing to play for in both weeks 17 & 18

[Just Jack]

3 minutes ago, stinky finger said:

 

Broncos, not the Chargers.

 

Thanks. Fixed 

[JGMcD2]

28 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

This is what I'm concerned about.  Imagine allen only plays one more game while lamar plays 3 more :

 

Allen stats:

 

15 games played

4,300 total yards

40 total Tds

5 INT

 

Lamar stats

17 games

5,400 total yards

45 TDs

4 INT

Head to head win vs Allen

 

If MVP voters want to contradict themselves after how they voted last year, that’s their prerogative. Lamar had 29 total TD last year to Josh’s 44. Josh also had like 500 more yards of total offense. 
 

Lamar won because his team was the higher seed, and his stats were good enough, plain and simple. 
 

The Ravens might not even win their division this year, their signature win so far is against Buffalo over 10 weeks ago. Unless Josh absolutely implodes down the stretch, they’ll be completely contradicting themselves. 

Edited December 16 by JGMcD2

[Casey D]

21 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

Chiefs still need to play Steelers, Texans, and Broncos.  If they lose all three of those games, the Bills could end up getting the one seed, if they win out.  

 

 

No, if Bills win out KC can win one game and Bills #1 seed.

[T master]

2 hours ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

Because the Chiefs, Steelers and Ravens all play on Wednesday (Christmas Day) during week 17 and the bills play the following Sunday.. . the bills will have the advantage of knowing the outcome of those games before they step foot on the field. 

 

If the following happens the bills will have the #2 seed locked up and may sit starters for 2 WHOLE WEEKS:

 

#1 Kc Wins their next two games

 

#2 Baltimore beats Pittsburgh but loses the following week against Houston. 

 

#3 Buffalo beats New England

 

The Chiefs last 3 games aren't a walk in the park if i remember correctly and now that Patty is hurt winning 2 of the last 3 is not a given, I also can see the Ravens getting beat in both of their remaining games the Steelers will be pissed for losing yesterday & Houston is playing pretty good too .

 

I think the Bills will win out unless they sit their starters in a couple of the last 3 so the #1 seed is not out of the question but i'm only a fan and don't follow it as close as you do .

[4BillsintheBurgh]

2 hours ago, Steptide said:

For some reason I just feel kc isn't gonna win their next 2 games. They're not just gonna beat up on the steelers. Browns defense was killing Mahomes, I can only imagine what the steelers d will do 

Watt went out with an ankle yesterday, I didn't see if it was longer term or not. Pit does have some decent pass rush behind him though.

 

What happened to Mahomes is a reminder to make sure your oline room is as deep and talented as possible.

[gonzo1105]

Their not going to sit their starters for two weeks before the playoffs. Limited reps, playing a half I can see but flat out sitting Allen and Company for two weeks I can't see even if they have it locked up.

[fergie's ire]

2 hours ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

This is what I'm concerned about.  Imagine allen only plays one more game while lamar plays 3 more :

 

Allen stats:

 

15 games played

4,300 total yards

40 total Tds

5 INT

 

Lamar stats

17 games

5,400 total yards

45 TDs

4 INT

Head to head win vs Allen

 

Stats matter to a degree for MVP, but what really decides it is narrative and what the media is saying.  Listen to the media today.  It's not close.  He would need to do something egregious like throw 6 picks in a loss to the Pats.  It's Allen's to lose right now and in terms of playing he is in what is known as "a Costanza situation." Being at work can only hurt his chances.

[Buffalo ill]

I have a feeling this team won't play well if they take a couple weeks off.  

[TFBillsfan]

I would predict Baltimore will beat the Steelers and I don’t see Houston beating KC in Arrowhead this week. However, I don’t think KC beats Pittsburgh.  Denver will certainly want to beat KC in Denver in week 17. If KC wins all three games in 11 days then I’ll tip my cap to them. 

 

Bills need to take care of business, execute and put NE and the Jets away early. The #1 seed is very much in play.

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

I would predict Baltimore will beat the Steelers and I don’t see Houston beating KC in Arrowhead this week. However, I don’t think KC beats Pittsburgh.  Denver will certainly want to beat KC in Denver in week 17. If KC wins all three games in 11 days then I’ll tip my cap to them. 

 

Bills need to take care of business, execute and put NE and the Jets away early. The #1 seed is very much in play.

 

If Mahomes doesn't play, then I could definitely see the Texans winning at Arrowhead. 

[TFBillsfan]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

 

If Mahomes doesn't play, then I could definitely see the Texans winning at Arrowhead. 

Lol. How many times does Mahomes act like he needs his leg amputated to magically come back and play with no limitations. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t play!

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 hours ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

Because the Chiefs, Steelers and Ravens all play on Wednesday (Christmas Day) during week 17 and the bills play the following Sunday.. . the bills will have the advantage of knowing the outcome of those games before they step foot on the field. 

 

If the following happens the bills will have the #2 seed locked up and may sit starters for 2 WHOLE WEEKS:

 

#1 Kc Wins their next two games

 

#2 Baltimore beats Pittsburgh but loses the following week against Houston. 

 

#3 Buffalo beats New England

Well the positive is that if #2 and #3 happen, then we will either gain at least a game on KC by the time we host the Jests, or we’ll know that we’re locked in as the 2 seed.  Exciting position to be in, either way.

[Gregg]

4 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

Lol. How many times does Mahomes act like he needs his leg amputated to magically come back and play with no limitations. I’d be stunned if he doesn’t play!

 

True but this year does feel a little different. Their offense hasn't looked all that great this year. It seems like Mahomes has thrown more INT's this season. I get that they are the defending champs and get the benefit of the doubt. But this doesn't feel like their year. IMHO. I think the AFC will come down to the Bills or Ravens.

Edited December 16 by Gregg

[Eastport bills]

The Chiefs will be hard pressed to win 2 of 3 against the Texans, Steelers and Broncos. Unfortunately the Bills will have to run the table because this year, the bye and home field throughout will help get us healthy. I see the Chiefs losing 2of 3  especially if Mahomes doesn’t play.

[Ta111]

2 hours ago, Just Jack said:

 

Chiefs still need to play Steelers, Texans, and Broncos.  If they lose all three of those games, the Bills could end up getting the one seed, if they win out.  

 

 

Actually the Chiefs only need lose 2 out of last 3, if Bills win out.

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

16 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Well the positive is that if #2 and #3 happen, then we will either gain at least a game on KC by the time we host the Jests, or we’ll know that we’re locked in as the 2 seed.  Exciting position to be in, either way.

I know right ! Its so exciting!

 

I was thinking about a scenario yesterday where Houston finishes #3. They hold tiebreakers over Pittsburgh and Baltimore and still play Baltimore so its entirely possible they sneak into the #3 seed. In which case I think id actually prefer the #2 seed over the #1 seed! 

Imagine a scenario where the Bills play home vs. the Chargers in the wild card round and then face Houston in the Divisional round at home. Versus the #1 seed Chiefs potential path of playing Baltimore at home , assuming Baltimore upsets whoever they face in the wild card round.
 

My Ideal standings :

#1 ) Kansas City
#2) Buffalo
#3) Houston
#4) Pittsburgh
#5) Baltimore
#6) Denver
#7) Los Angeles

 

[RiotAct]

3 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Depends on the status of Kermit.

 

Without him, they could drop all 3! 

“Could”.

[CincyBillsFan]

2 hours ago, BLeonard said:

 

Need to finish a game ahead of PIT, otherwise, they're probably getting the tiebreaker.

If the BIlls and Steelers both finish 12-5, the Steelers get the tiebreaker

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/results/401671780~1~401671778~2~401671799~2~401671494~1~401671495~2~401671831~1~401671836~1

That's fine but for the Bills to finish at 12 - 5 we would have to go 1 - 2 against two teams with a combined w/l record of 7 - 21 and with 2 of the games played at home.  That ain't happening in this or any other universe.

 

 

[Mango]

3 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:

I'm hoping the opposite: that the last game is super meaningful because the Chiefs have dropped two of three, and beating the Pats means we get the 1 seed!

The Houston game is a bit iffy because Houston has clinched. But otherwise Pittsburgh and Denver will almost certainly have something to play for and KC will get their best shots. 

 

Mahomes missing this week and losing to Houston sets the Bills up nicely. I think Pittsburgh can beat KC at home with or without Mahomes. 

[Captain Hindsight]

50 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Watt went out with an ankle yesterday, I didn't see if it was longer term or not. Pit does have some decent pass rush behind him though.

 

What happened to Mahomes is a reminder to make sure your oline room is as deep and talented as possible.

Also a reminder to not jump in the air like an idiot when throwing a pass 

Edited December 16 by Captain Hindsight