Last two games prove Allen deserved a dome

[Royale with Cheese]

What did the SF game prove?  

[frostbitmic]

Maybe the next next stadium will have a dome for him.

[MikePJ76]

Domes are terrible for sports.  Controlled weather is terrible with the exception that it can prevent rainouts in MLB.

 

here in DFW, the Texas rangers had one of the nicer ballparks in the league and because of greed they built a domed retractable roof stadium across the street.   They built this under the notion that it was too hot and they wanted fans to have AC.  The reality is they built it to prop up the teams value because the owner wants/wanted  to sell.  This allowed them to add more high end food and marketing spots in the stadium.
 

they never open the roof ever and the stadium is dreadfully bad, it’s truly terrible.  
 

most teams with the option to open the roof never actually do.  I imagine buffalo would have been the same, it would always be too windy, cold or rain/snow.  
 

I still think it is great they resisted the urge to not build a dome and it will still be football in Buffalo with the Buffalo identity.  Does the whole league have to be cookie cutter, you can barely tell the domed stadiums apart.

[All_Pro_Bills]

18 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Im a fan who wanted and still wouldve preferred a dome.  However, we are not going into a stadium anything resembling our current spot.  That stadium is known for crazy sideways snow and swirling winds in endzones.

 

From my understanding the new spot is going to be closer to a sunroof, than it is 4 windows down in your car.  Im def cool with that. Keeps the fans a bit more comfortable, as the wind in the cold kills you.  Visually it should let some snow fall in straight down thats kinda pretty and not effect the passing game all that much

Add in the field being natural grass with underground heating to keep the surface from freezing and melting any accumulating snow that might fall through the partial roof. And dome or no dome, the enclosed design is going to make the nose level Bills fans generate the loudest in sports, which is going to give any opponent trouble. 

 

 

 

 

[T master]

15 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

He also lost to Cinci in a weather game and almost lost to freaking Skyler Thompson and the piss poor Patriots. Weather eliminates talent period 

 

Was that this year i seem to misremember 🤔 ?

 

Oh hey and what about that game in 2018 too that he lost don't forget that one, remember that one i think there were snow flurries ?

[RkFast]

Can I get a list of the quarterbacks who in the last 30 years  played for an "open air" team and then opted to go play for a "dome" team in free agency and specifically mentioned that the dome was a major factor in their decision?

Edited December 17 by RkFast

[SoCal Deek]

It’s interesting to note that in the AFC there are only 4 out of 16 domed/covered stadiums and none of them are in the northeast. (Las Vegas, LA, Houston, Indianapolis)

[CaseyatBat]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s interesting to note that in the AFC there are only 4 out of 16 domed/covered stadiums and none of them are in the northeast. (Las Vegas, LA, Houston, Indianapolis)

Those are all the new stadiums, nobody builds a new open air one unless you are NY state taxpayers 

[IsolateThis]

2 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:

Those are all the new stadiums, nobody builds a new open air one unless you are NY state taxpayers 

Vegas, LA, and Houston are domed for purposes of heat control - could you imagine watching a game in Vegas or Houston in September in open air? Add a six pack of beer to that day and I'm in the hospital for heat stroke...

[CaseyatBat]

1 minute ago, IsolateThis said:

Vegas, LA, and Houston are domed for purposes of heat control - could you imagine watching a game in Vegas or Houston in September in open air? Add a six pack of beer to that day and I'm in the hospital for heat stroke...

yeah they are smart. A new stadium should be a dome. Good for them

[ddaryl]

19 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:

Those are all the new stadiums, nobody builds a new open air one unless you are NY state taxpayers 

So you think the NY Taxpayers would want to pay more for a dome considering more than 50% of NYers are not Bills fans ????

The cost has already ballooned above $2 billion, why not make it $3 billion, I mean its only money. Football is best played in the elements and the new stadium actually is designed to eliminate most of those elements already.

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, CaseyatBat said:

Those are all the new stadiums, nobody builds a new open air one unless you are NY state taxpayers 

I guess ‘new’ is relative. Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, even Miami all have stadiums that are way newer than the Buffalo and none are domes. The Bills will be playing the majority of their games outside (both home and away) for the next two decades at a minimum. 

[Fleezoid]

I'm going to have to say no to this. It's really not a good look for him.....

 

[cba fan]

On 12/15/2024 at 11:05 PM, QCity said:

 

 

Building a dome with a 50-yr lifespan for 1 guy who will play 1/5th of that is the definition of short-sighted.

not short sighted at all. You build the dome for all players not just Allen. And because NFL is an all passing league now. But additionally, but not mutually exclusive, you build it in Buffalo's case to give best chance they may ever have at finally reversing the SB jinx. With Allen they have their best chance ever. 

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

I guess ‘new’ is relative. Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, even Miami all have stadiums that are way newer than the Buffalo and none are domes. The Bills will be playing the majority of their games outside (both home and away) for the next two decades at a minimum. 

all new stadiums being built now are domes. Tennesse, Chicago, Washington, and Carolina will be too.

 

you want to live in the past while the rest of the league pulls away?? While FA's are luke warm to Bills weather? Yeah vast majority of players want non Buffalo weather too. Josh and most of his teammates too.

Edited December 17 by cba fan

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, cba fan said:

not short sighted at all. You build the dome for all players not just Allen. And because NFL is an all passing league now. But additionally, but not mutually exclusive, you build it in Buffalo's case to give best chance they may ever have at finally reversing the SB jinx. With Allen they have their best chance ever. 

all new stadiums being built now are domes. Tennesse, Chicago, Washington, and Carolina will be too.

 

you want to live in the past while the rest of the league pulls away?? While FA's are luke warm to Bills weather? Yeah vast majority of players want non Buffalo weather too. Josh and most of his teammates too.

Huh? I don’t want anything. I’m just stating facts. 

[theRalph]

This is an over-generalized broadbrush regurgitation of a national narrative that developed Sunday night.

 

Let's get specific:

• The most-common and annoying weather impediment to the Bills at home is WIND. Not precipitation. Not Temperature.
• Low temperature is actually an advantage for the Bills.
• The new stadium will be sheathed in a minutely perforated metallic skin. In fluid dynamics, we have something called a "boundary layer" which forms close to a surface due to friction when flow occurs across that surface. Perforations disrupt the boundary layer near-wall turbulent structures, causing them to lift away from the surface and creating pathways for lower momentum fluid to flow closer to the wall.
• The Bills at home in a dome is, to many of us, an utter sacrilege.  

 

So, the stadium skin will prevent turbulent flow from spilling over the cover panels and getting to the field. Wind will not be a factor in the new stadium - which should simply be called The Ralph.

 

Edited December 17 by theRalph

[theRalph]

27 minutes ago, cba fan said:

you want to live in the past while the rest of the league pulls away?? While FA's are luke warm to Bills weather? Yeah vast majority of players want non Buffalo weather too. Josh and most of his teammates too.

You're just making this up as you go along, right? These takes are inane and unfounded. I can't even call them takes. 

[CaseyatBat]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

I guess ‘new’ is relative. Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, even Miami all have stadiums that are way newer than the Buffalo and none are domes. The Bills will be playing the majority of their games outside (both home and away) for the next two decades at a minimum. 

Cleveland is building a new dome

 

and Miamis stadium was built in 1987 lol

[jethro_tull]

On 12/15/2024 at 10:09 PM, Kingston Bills Fan said:

If Allen played in a controlled environment every home game he would be unstoppable. The only thing that can stop him is Zaney Buffalo weather where talent is omitted and the luckier team wins. Just think it was short sighted to know you have the best player in the world why would you not want him to have the best possible playing conditions. How often does a team have the clear cut best best QB in the league? It may never happen for Buffalo again. We have 9 more years or so with him I just wish half his games weren’t a coin flip cause of weather. 

Kingston Jamaica?  

[SoCal Deek]

Just a few tidbits:

 

1. The new stadium isn’t being built for Josh any more than the current was built for Joe Ferguson. The majority of Josh’s career will almost surely be played in the current stadium. 
 

2. The Bills drafted Josh because his arm strength suggested an ability to play outdoors. Not because he needed to play indoors to be at his best.

 

3. The Bills have NEVER been known for late season collapses, either before or during Josh’s tenure. If anything they’ve been better known for late season winning streaks. 
 

Do I think they should’ve built a dome? Absolutely! But I also know why they didn’t and yes, a lot of it has to do with the financial challenges of being a small, blue market franchise. 

5 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:

Cleveland is building a new dome

 

and Miamis stadium was built in 1987 lol

Ugh! The roof was added long after 1987 and even with that it still isn’t a DOME!!

Edited December 17 by SoCal Deek