SCBills Posted Thursday at 05:16 PM Posted Thursday at 05:16 PM 1 minute ago, Sojourner said: He is above gimping around. 100%. He’s come away with plenty of injuries and it wasn’t made known until after the game or once he dragged himself to the sideline. The point you’re initially referencing is Allen and his theatrics. No problem with it personally, a player wants to hit him when he’s giving up and he sells it. That’s the defenders fault. They want to clash helmets and talk smack with him when the play is over? That’s on the defender. Guess you still believe Chris Jones aiming his leg to Josh’s knee on the “phantom” tripping play is acceptable. Several times this season alone we’ve seen players punching and hitting Josh that haven’t been penalized or even referenced by the league or its review process. Can’t blame the guy for selling the acting classes. Patty is just as good so you can’t even go there on that one. And myself, yes. Twice during my playing years I had a high ankle sprain. Coaches refused to let me play until at least two weeks of healing which meant missing a game. And I’m not worth half a billion dollars. But to your initial point, if anyone gimps around or plays an act with injuries, it’s Patrick. Absolutely. He’s done it already this in his career. It’s akin to Allen if he constantly flexed out his hand that’s been in a glove since basically the beginning of the season and who knows what exactly he did to it. Or if Allen constantly stretched out his arm after partially tearing a ligament in his THROWING SHOULDER. Ok, yea he flops… cool. So does Pat. Kansas City fans don’t even realize Allen has played through serious injuries because he minimizes them to the lowest degree possible. The fact he didn’t miss weeks, if not months, with the UCL is insane. 2 3 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Thursday at 05:18 PM Posted Thursday at 05:18 PM ...and the winner of the 2024 Soap Opera Awards for leading Drama Queen is........................ 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted Thursday at 05:28 PM Posted Thursday at 05:28 PM 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: It’s akin to Allen if he constantly flexed out his hand that’s been in a glove since basically the beginning of the season and who knows what exactly he did to it. Or if Allen constantly stretched out his arm after partially tearing a ligament in his THROWING SHOULDER. Ok, yea he flops… cool. So does Pat. Kansas City fans don’t even realize Allen has played through serious injuries because he minimizes them to the lowest degree possible. The fact he didn’t miss weeks, if not months, with the UCL is insane. Every player flops to a degree. The QBs I don’t even have a problem with as it’s always free yards. Again, that’s the defenders fault. Like we’ve seen with Josh and heard from Taron on this year alone, you can get away with stuff in the middle of a pile up or scrum for the ball. I get them standing behind Mahomes, I do. They should. But to reference Josh and his theatrics as that on par with Patrick is a wild take. Exactly like you referenced, the dudes had serious injuries and played it off. Pat, if he’s fully practicing like reports, has given the appearance that injuries twice this year seem like they could be severe if not borderline catastrophic. We were all lead to believe he’s going to miss time when he probably doesn’t. And again, it’s exactly like you closed that post with… Josh has had injuries where he should have missed time but was still playing. That says it all imo. 1 Quote
stevewin Posted Thursday at 05:35 PM Posted Thursday at 05:35 PM What's the over-under on how long it takes Paty to start dramatically limping around after a scramble/sack - with subsequent breathless coverage and ad nauseum super close-up shots of his foot the rest of the game (of course then miraculously scrambling for a 1st down late in the game - "What a warrior!"). I say the drama starts his first offensive posession. 5 Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Thursday at 07:05 PM Posted Thursday at 07:05 PM 1 hour ago, Sojourner said: He is above gimping around. 100%. He’s come away with plenty of injuries and it wasn’t made known until after the game or once he dragged himself to the sideline. The point you’re initially referencing is Allen and his theatrics. No problem with it personally, a player wants to hit him when he’s giving up and he sells it. That’s the defenders fault. They want to clash helmets and talk smack with him when the play is over? That’s on the defender. Guess you still believe Chris Jones aiming his leg to Josh’s knee on the “phantom” tripping play is acceptable. Several times this season alone we’ve seen players punching and hitting Josh that haven’t been penalized or even referenced by the league or its review process. Can’t blame the guy for selling the acting classes. Patty is just as good so you can’t even go there on that one. And myself, yes. Twice during my playing years I had a high ankle sprain. Coaches refused to let me play until at least two weeks of healing which meant missing a game. And I’m not worth half a billion dollars. But to your initial point, if anyone gimps around or plays an act with injuries, it’s Patrick. Absolutely. He’s done it already this in his career. I'm not sure why you'd respect flopping to draw an undeserved penalty more than limping with a high ankle sprain. You said your coaches wouldn't let you play for two weeks minimum with the same injury. Yet it's an act to show any signs of pain or hindrance? Did you limp at all after your high ankle sprain? Seems contradictory to criticize the coaching staff for playing him, while at the same time criticizing the player for showing any visible signs of pain. This is the same player who tried to re-enter the game after dislocating his knee in Denver. Is it possible that he's a fairly tough player who's highly competitive and willing to play through pain? 1 Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Thursday at 07:11 PM Posted Thursday at 07:11 PM 1 hour ago, SCBills said: It’s akin to Allen if he constantly flexed out his hand that’s been in a glove since basically the beginning of the season and who knows what exactly he did to it. Or if Allen constantly stretched out his arm after partially tearing a ligament in his THROWING SHOULDER. Ok, yea he flops… cool. So does Pat. Kansas City fans don’t even realize Allen has played through serious injuries because he minimizes them to the lowest degree possible. The fact he didn’t miss weeks, if not months, with the UCL is insane. Both players are competitive and will play through pain. But you're comparing completely different injuries. If Allen had a high ankle sprain, I'm pretty sure he'd have a limp. And not one of you would accuse him of acting. Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted Thursday at 07:11 PM Posted Thursday at 07:11 PM 3 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: I'm not sure why you'd respect flopping to draw an undeserved penalty more than limping with a high ankle sprain. You said your coaches wouldn't let you play for two weeks minimum with the same injury. Yet it's an act to show any signs of pain or hindrance? Did you limp at all after your high ankle sprain? Seems contradictory to criticize the coaching staff for playing him, while at the same time criticizing the player for showing any visible signs of pain. This is the same player who tried to re-enter the game after dislocating his knee in Denver. Is it possible that he's a fairly tough player who's highly competitive and willing to play through pain? Hollywood Brown is back. That's gotta be encouraging as a KC fan. Even i must admit as just a fan of mahomes I hope KC gets some big time wrs next year. He has been kinda screwed with injures at that position and some mismanagement. I saw Wiley at TE in camp and even he got hurt. He looked promising. I wonder if KC will go after Higgins this off-season and draft another top wr. But having worthy and brown on the outside, it should open up the middle for Hopkins, juju and Kelce 1 1 1 Quote
FLFan Posted Thursday at 07:15 PM Posted Thursday at 07:15 PM Mahomes was not getting enough attention which has all been going to Allen and Jackson. Now he is getting some attention. It’s what he craves. There is literally nothing wrong with him. 12 hours ago, SaulGoodman said: Lot of classy comments here. And you guys knock KC fans? I don’t see any of them wishing injury upon Allen. I fear for the mental health of Bills Mafia if KC threepeats. You are free to leave any time. 2 1 4 2 Quote
AkwiredTste Posted Thursday at 07:21 PM Posted Thursday at 07:21 PM 7 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: Hollywood Brown is back. That's gotta be encouraging as a KC fan. Even i must admit as just a fan of mahomes I hope KC gets some big time wrs next year. He has been kinda screwed with injures at that position and some mismanagement. I saw Wiley at TE in camp and even he got hurt. He looked promising. I wonder if KC will go after Higgins this off-season and draft another top wr. But having worthy and brown on the outside, it should open up the middle for Hopkins, juju and Kelce Poor Patty 🙄 1 3 Quote
Process Posted Thursday at 07:21 PM Posted Thursday at 07:21 PM 9 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: Both players are competitive and will play through pain. But you're comparing completely different injuries. If Allen had a high ankle sprain, I'm pretty sure he'd have a limp. And not one of you would accuse him of acting. If Allen had a high ankle sprain he wouldn't be practicing in full two days later. Neither would Mahomes. 4 3 Quote
T.E. Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM 1 hour ago, stevewin said: What's the over-under on how long it takes Paty to start dramatically limping around after a scramble/sack - with subsequent breathless coverage and ad nauseum super close-up shots of his foot the rest of the game (of course then miraculously scrambling for a 1st down late in the game - "What a warrior!"). I say the drama starts his first offensive posession. Somebody had to take the "Exaggerating An Injury So I Look More Heroic" throne after Roethlisberger retired. 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM 6 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: Both players are competitive and will play through pain. But you're comparing completely different injuries. If Allen had a high ankle sprain, I'm pretty sure he'd have a limp. And not one of you would accuse him of acting. Who is your AFC and NFC champion? Do you think buffalo and KC will play in the AFC championship? Do you think KC could resign Donovan Smith. I personally think KC should just stick with thuney at tackle. I think he'll settle things down. Also what is your opinion of Kincaid. Buffalo has tried to model some of their offense with Kelce and KC. Kincaid got lots of Kelce comps which is very high praise. I personally think he'll be more similar to Greg Olsen which is still a great te. I really hope we can beat you guys this year and win the super bowl. But it's hard to not like mahomes and KC. All trolling aside, I have a lot of respect for KC and the dynasty they built 3 Quote
benderbender Posted Thursday at 07:30 PM Posted Thursday at 07:30 PM On 12/15/2024 at 9:55 PM, benderbender said: He’s fine 6 Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Thursday at 08:00 PM Posted Thursday at 08:00 PM 4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: Hollywood Brown is back. That's gotta be encouraging as a KC fan. Even i must admit as just a fan of mahomes I hope KC gets some big time wrs next year. He has been kinda screwed with injures at that position and some mismanagement. I saw Wiley at TE in camp and even he got hurt. He looked promising. I wonder if KC will go after Higgins this off-season and draft another top wr. But having worthy and brown on the outside, it should open up the middle for Hopkins, juju and Kelce On paper, Brown/Hopkins/Worthy/Smith-Schuster is much better than what they had the last few years. But that's assuming that Hollywood is in game shape and up to speed. It's hard to say what they'll do in the offseason, with Rice potentially missing half the season next year. I'm sure they'll take a look at Higgins if they can afford him. 1 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted Thursday at 08:28 PM Posted Thursday at 08:28 PM 1 hour ago, SaulGoodman said: I'm not sure why you'd respect flopping to draw an undeserved penalty more than limping with a high ankle sprain. You said your coaches wouldn't let you play for two weeks minimum with the same injury. Yet it's an act to show any signs of pain or hindrance? Did you limp at all after your high ankle sprain? Seems contradictory to criticize the coaching staff for playing him, while at the same time criticizing the player for showing any visible signs of pain. This is the same player who tried to re-enter the game after dislocating his knee in Denver. Is it possible that he's a fairly tough player who's highly competitive and willing to play through pain? Didnt say I respect it. I pointed out, regarding Josh, that he’s above gimping around. And to repeat, if a defender is making a bone head error in unnecessary contact or roughness then I have no problem with Josh dramatizing it a little. That is the defenders fault. Your own guy has a panache for doing exactly the same. The difference, and I’m obviously having to repeat myself, Mahomes isn’t punched in the head or has his genitals grabbed and roughed up by players in a pile up or scrum. It happens to Josh on the regular. I’m failing to understand the contradiction or even criticism of the coaching staff lol. There’s none. I pointed out I had an injury and my coaches kept me from playing. Essentially the same with Mahomes. Merely alluding that the injury isn’t as bad for him as has been reported or led to believe if he’s fully participating in practice… 2 Quote
Einstein Posted Thursday at 08:33 PM Posted Thursday at 08:33 PM 1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said: as just a fan of mahomes I hope KC gets some big time wrs next year. I’ve had you twigged as a KC troll since day 1. No true Bills fan would say something like this. 2 2 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted Thursday at 08:37 PM Posted Thursday at 08:37 PM 1 hour ago, benderbender said: 1 Quote
co_springs_billsfan Posted Thursday at 08:57 PM Posted Thursday at 08:57 PM 1 hour ago, benderbender said: "week-to-week" and isn't even limited in a single practice... 2 5 Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Thursday at 09:04 PM Posted Thursday at 09:04 PM 1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said: Who is your AFC and NFC champion? I don't have a strong opinion for either yet. I think HFA is going to be huge this year. After toying with the ESPN Playoff Machine, I think Minnesota actually has a solid chance to steal the 1 seed in the NFC. Wouldn't be surprised to see them in the SB if that happens, but as of now I'm leaning Eagles. 1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said: Do you think buffalo and KC will play in the AFC championship? I think Baltimore should worry either team. Their defense has improved. Buffalo might be the better team, but they clearly don't match up well. I'm sure they'd fare better at home, but it might take 40 pts to get the W. Another thing I noticed while toying with the playoff machine is it seems like Baltimore and Buffalo are on a collision course. If KC takes the 1 seed, Baltimore will most likely be the 3. And if KC falls to the 2, Baltimore is most likely the 5. It's hard to predict what KC's going to look like. Adding Hollywood to the mix, and hopefully a better LT situation, could have a big impact. I think they'll look to involve Hopkins more and increase his snap count. And I expect Mahomes and Kelce to have a different level of focus and intensity than we sometimes see in the regular season. Defensively, I still worry about DB depth. If Watson isn't able to return, I won't feel very comfortable with being tasked to stop Allen or other top QBs. This is a tired team that needs rest. If they get the bye, and especially if they're able to rest starters in Week 18, I like their chances. If they have to go on the road again with no bye, I won't be nearly as confident. 1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said: Do you think KC could resign Donovan Smith. I personally think KC should just stick with thuney at tackle. I think he'll settle things down. I think the plan is to start Humphries at LT. He's dealing with a minor injury but should be good to go soon. Thuney will be the "break glass when needed" option. I don't think they'll allow Morris to take any snaps in the playoffs. Hope not, anyway. 1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said: Also what is your opinion of Kincaid. Buffalo has tried to model some of their offense with Kelce and KC. Kincaid got lots of Kelce comps which is very high praise. I personally think he'll be more similar to Greg Olsen which is still a great te. I really hope we can beat you guys this year and win the super bowl. But it's hard to not like mahomes and KC. All trolling aside, I have a lot of respect for KC and the dynasty they built I wanted KC to draft Kincaid, so I'm pretty high on him. He could be the best TE in the league soon, although Bowers might have something to say about that. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Thursday at 09:15 PM Posted Thursday at 09:15 PM 41 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Didnt say I respect it. I pointed out, regarding Josh, that he’s above gimping around. And to repeat, if a defender is making a bone head error in unnecessary contact or roughness then I have no problem with Josh dramatizing it a little. That is the defenders fault. Your own guy has a panache for doing exactly the same. The difference, and I’m obviously having to repeat myself, Mahomes isn’t punched in the head or has his genitals grabbed and roughed up by players in a pile up or scrum. It happens to Josh on the regular. I haven't heard about this. If that's something that's unique to Allen....what's the reason for that? 41 minutes ago, Sojourner said: I’m failing to understand the contradiction or even criticism of the coaching staff lol. There’s none. I pointed out I had an injury and my coaches kept me from playing. Essentially the same with Mahomes. Merely alluding that the injury isn’t as bad for him as has been reported or led to believe if he’s fully participating in practice… I don't see where people are getting the idea that KC's led anyone to believe it's a serious injury. Seems like they've almost gone out of their way to indicate the opposite. Reid even said he'd have gone back into the game if it were the playoffs. It's the media that's going crazy over this and saying they should sit him. Quote
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