It's still entirely Josh Allen

[RyanC883]

16 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Every team is not missing 6 or 7 defensive starters lol Detroit was in a similar situation that I 100% agree with.  We moved it well before they had a rash of injuries in the game though and they didn’t do much when we had our starters in in the first half.  If injuries were turned off I think we blow them out 

 

Hutchinson is worth at least like 3 of our missing players, IMO.  I'd take Hutchinson over Rapp, Hamlin and Douglas.  

[FireChans]

17 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Every team is not missing 6 or 7 defensive starters lol Detroit was in a similar situation that I 100% agree with.  We moved it well before they had a rash of injuries in the game though and they didn’t do much when we had our starters in in the first half.  If injuries were turned off I think we blow them out 

Detroit had plenty of injuries before the game.

 

Im curious to know what Bills team was missing 7 defensive starters.

[Big Turk]

Josh Allen is inevitable.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Detroit had plenty of injuries before the game.

 

Im curious to know what Bills team was missing 7 defensive starters.

Well yea and their defense got absolutely roasted too lol.
 

I should’ve said 6 players…although the further you go down the depth chart the worse it gets so I don’t think that’s a huge distinction 

 

no Douglas,rapp or Hamlin to start the game.  Milano and Williams went down midgame as did bishop.  I’m gonna rewatch the game anyway so I’ll check to see if I missed one.  Thought we were down 7 players while watching it but my count is now 6.  I think Williams came back briefly and left again 

 

a rash of injuries forced lewis into a tough role and Spector got forced in and boy did the lions pick on those two guys much like the bills picked on the lions injured guy replacements aka tons of points  

Edited December 16 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Simon]

5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Josh Allen is inevitable.

 

[DaVinci]

It's only Goff. If Goff has a bad game the Lions are in trouble. etc...etc...etc

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Well yea and their defense got absolutely roasted too lol.
 

I should’ve said 6 players…although the further you go down the depth chart the worse it gets so I don’t think that’s a huge distinction 

 

no Douglas,rapp or Hamlin to start the game.  Milano and Williams went down midgame as did bishop.  I’m gonna rewatch the game anyway so I’ll check to see if I missed one.  Thought we were down 7 players while watching it but my count is now 6.  I think Williams came back briefly and left again 

 

a rash of injuries forced lewis into a tough role and Spector got forced in and boy did the lions pick on those two guys much like the bills picked on the lions injured guy replacements aka tons of points  

Of the 6 players you listed, only 4 of them are starters. The maximum starters you can lose is 11 lol. The bills didn’t only have 5 other defenders playing.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Of the 6 players you listed, only 4 of them are starters. The maximum starters you can lose is 11 lol. The bills didn’t only have 5 other defenders playing.

Lol I addressed that directly in the post,friend.  4 starters and 2 other depth pieces that got forced onto the field were out I am 100% ok with altering the wording to that  and would make exactly the same point.  I would’ve rather lost another starter than freakin Spector getting forced onto the field that was tough to watch…so I don’t really understand getting hung up on the semantics.
 

Williams may technically be a depth piece now but he had way more value in that moment than losing a starting DE or DT or something like that 

Edited December 16 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[starrymessenger]

Yesterday we saw Josh Allen, a right handed QB roll out to his left and without pivoting and planting throw a dime laser to James Cook to his right while still proceeding towards the boundary all in one motion. 

That is something that is simply not supposed to happen. 

Edited December 16 by starrymessenger

[GoBills808]

16 hours ago, FireChans said:

 

Just a casual example of our elite blockers, elite protection and elite playcalling.

 

PSYCHE. Allen high steps a free rusher forcing a missed sack, beats the defense to the sideline to buy time, and throws a perfect missile into Coleman’s chest.

 

 

 

[Man with No Name]

7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

 

 

That play is absolutely bonkers. I don't recall, were the announcers appropriately over the moon on that one? No issue if they missed one. I think they were appropriately complimentary of JA through the game. 

Edited December 16 by Man with No Name

[GoBills808]

Just now, Man with No Name said:

 

There were multiple off schedule throws like that to Cook and Johnson without which our first several drives would have ended

 

It was one of the most impressive QB performances I can remember tbh

[Man with No Name]

The throw to Cook was almost impossible. He made it look easy. 

[FireChans]

21 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

 

 

Elite blocking scheme, play design/execution and route run. Folks like @GunnerBill out here acting like Jared Goff doesn’t make plays like this every week???? 
 

 

Look at how many guys Josh needed to not block a free rusher, not get open for at least 10 seconds, and catch a missile that hit them directly in the chest while he’s throwing across his body while rolling to his left. 
 

It takes a village! Josh doesn’t do this stuff on his own!

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Elite blocking scheme, play design/execution and route run. Folks like @GunnerBill out here acting like Jared Goff doesn’t make plays like this every week???? 
 

 

Look at how many guys Josh needed to not block a free rusher, not get open for at least 10 seconds, and catch a missile that hit them directly in the chest while he’s throwing across his body while rolling to his left. 
 

It takes a village! Josh doesn’t do this stuff on his own!

Allen made Campbell call onside kick w 12 minutes left to play down 10😂😂he was so good he literally made the opposing HC do something very weird and everybody kind of just shrugged and said 'yeah ok we kind of get it'

 

Nobody has seen anything like this dude before

 

 

[34-78-83]

14 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

A few posters over the years would beg to differ 😃

It was comparing his patience to my own! lol

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Elite blocking scheme, play design/execution and route run. Folks like @GunnerBill out here acting like Jared Goff doesn’t make plays like this every week???? 
 

 

Look at how many guys Josh needed to not block a free rusher, not get open for at least 10 seconds, and catch a missile that hit them directly in the chest while he’s throwing across his body while rolling to his left. 
 

It takes a village! Josh doesn’t do this stuff on his own!

 

That was a fantastic Josh play. Nobody is questioning that he does that. Or that there are almost no other humans in the world that can do it. He makes 5-10 of those plays every week. 

 

And yet that still isn't proof that it is entirely Josh. That, and only that, is the point I have disputed constantly through this thread. There is zero dispute that Josh is the best player in the league. 

[starrymessenger]

2 hours ago, Man with No Name said:

That play is absolutely bonkers. I don't recall, were the announcers appropriately over the moon on that one? No issue if they missed one. I think they were appropriately complimentary of JA through the game. 

I liked Darius Butler's (former DB)  reaction to the clip he posted - "ridiculous". 

[Governor]

I just watched it again and Nance and Romo are the absolute worst. What a bunch of whiney haters.

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That was a fantastic Josh play. Nobody is questioning that he does that. Or that there are almost no other humans in the world that can do it. He makes 5-10 of those plays every week. 

 

And yet that still isn't proof that it is entirely Josh. That, and only that, is the point I have disputed constantly through this thread. There is zero dispute that Josh is the best player in the league. 

The point disputed is that THAT PLAY is indicative of how much this offense needs Josh to work.

 

The point disputed is the things that Josh does on that play and similar plays ROUTINELY is more than what virtually every other single QB in the league does to make their offenses go.

 

Sure, a completed pass can never be “entirely Josh” because someone has to catch the ball. That’s kinda silly semantics. 

The bottom line that is extremely obvious to me, is that the Bills not only ask Josh to do more than every other QB in the league, they NEED it and, most importantly, he usually delivers. 

I consider that to be part and parcel with “the offense is all Josh Allen.”

Edited December 17 by FireChans