It's still entirely Josh Allen

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Every player on the Bills should kick back 10% of their salary to Josh, like he was Paulie. Every coach 50%. 

Including Ty Johnson? James Cook? Shakir? Knox? Kincaid? The O Line (especially Brown)? Brady, for the most part, in the booth? Josh is phenomenal. There’s no need to slate other coaches/players who had great games to promote him further.

[DeltaDigital]

35 minutes ago, Success said:

Why, oh why - do we need him to put on the cape every single game?

 

C'mon, coaches. Step UP.

 

100% without Allen were the jaguars 

[BeastMaster]

Detroit is the number 1 offense in the league that had 10 days off for a home game

 

Bills did enough on D to stop Detroit from being able to run the ball down our throat and keep Josh off the field

 

I'll take it

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

...it wouldn't surprise me...without an elite game wrecking pass rusher everything bad flows downstream.  I'm proud of Brady, Josh and this entire offense keeping us in the game these last 2 weeks against quality playoff caliber NFC teams.  Besides Ed playing amazing today,  the defensive injury train showed up right on schedule.  As it does every year.

we have a legit chance to rest a lot of guys week 18 if chiefs don’t slip up. Hope we enter the playoffs healthy.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Cook has only less TD we lose.

 

Torrence has one less pass protection.

 

And so on.

 

And so on.

 

Josh is phenomenal.  Unquestionably the MVP.  But can’t and does not do it all alone.

Disagree with both of those.

 

See the thing that you and @GunnerBill don’t realize is that Josh is out there making 1 of 1 plays look routine.

 

Rolling out of a pressure to hit Cook in stride 8 seconds after the snap for an 30 yard gain isn’t a great play by Cook. It’s a play that Josh is 100% responsible that good/solid QB’s like Goff are INCAPABLE of doing.

 

You are honestly disrespecting the greatness of Josh Allen. 
 

Goff on this Bills team doesn’t score 40+ tonight. Not even close.

 

You are so used to watching it you are numb to what you are seeing.

[Jerome007]

Joe Brady called  a GREAT game. I was impressed. Defense looked good until the 4th quarter. Anyway, how can anyone complain today? Tough crowd ha ha

[Success]

Just now, BeastMaster said:

Detroit is the number 1 offense in the league that had 10 days off for a home game

 

Bills did enough on D to stop Detroit from being able to run the ball down our throat and keep Josh off the field

 

I'll take it

 

I'll definitely take it, I'm glad we got the win.

 

But this coaching staff is not off the hook w/ that. They need to match Allen's excellence - not rely on it.

 

[Chaos]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

Including Ty Johnson? James Cook? Shakir? Knox? Kincaid? The O Line (especially Brown)? Brady, for the most part, in the booth? Josh is phenomenal. There’s no need to slate other coaches/players who had great games to promote him further.

Yes including all of them. All of their productivity drops far more than 10% with almost any other QB in the league. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

every team has that.  not like we are missing an all pro like Det is

Every team is not missing 6 or 7 defensive starters lol Detroit was in a similar situation that I 100% agree with.  We moved it well before they had a rash of injuries in the game though and they didn’t do much when we had our starters in in the first half.  If injuries were turned off I think we blow them out 

[Mikie2times]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

This is so bizarre and off base I am moderately worried for you.

I see you

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

 

That's a lazy response.  Really lazy.

 

 

Nothing personal, but this thread is so offbase it deserves no better, imo.

[LABILLBACKER]

Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

we have a legit chance to rest a lot of guys week 18 if chiefs don’t slip up. Hope we enter the playoffs healthy.

....after today we'll have to with Milano and Williams getting injured.  Hopefully they're minor.  Spector looked awful out there today. Like "AJ Klein on vacation" level awful. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 minute ago, DeltaDigital said:

100% without Allen were the jaguars 

Agree. But I would also say the Chiefs are the Jags without Mahomes and they have a really good defense. 
 

QB is just that important. Especially great ones.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Disagree with both of those.

 

See the thing that you and @GunnerBill don’t realize is that Josh is out there making 1 of 1 plays look routine.

 

Rolling out of a pressure to hit Cook in stride 8 seconds after the snap for an 30 yard gain isn’t a great play by Cook. It’s a play that Josh is 100% responsible that good/solid QB’s like Goff are INCAPABLE of doing.

 

You are honestly disrespecting the greatness of Josh Allen. 
 

Goff on this Bills team doesn’t score 40+ tonight. Not even close.

 

You are so used to watching it you are numb to what you are seeing.

 

How many times did he do that tonight? I think the first drive was 90% Josh Allen. There were a couple of other plays here and there too. But there were a TON of plays out there tonight that were coaching wins. I haven't seen Josh throw to as many open guys all year. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Joe Brady called  a GREAT game. I was impressed. Defense looked good until the 4th quarter. Anyway, how can anyone complain today? Tough crowd ha ha

They’re all in on the negative train since the Baltimore game, beating the best team in each conference since then has to have their blood boiling 😂

Edited December 16 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Success]

Just now, Simon said:

 

Nothing personal, but this thread is so offbase it deserves no better, imo.

 

This game was all Allen. I don't see how anyone could dispute that.

 

That dude shouldn't have to be on the sideline wondering about an onside kick after a game like that.  How can you POSSIBLY argue that the coaches were on his level, or that anyone was?

 

Total denial in this fanbase.

 

[oldmanfan]

Just now, FireChans said:

Disagree with both of those.

 

See the thing that you and @GunnerBill don’t realize is that Josh is out there making 1 of 1 plays look routine.

 

Rolling out of a pressure to hit Cook in stride 8 seconds after the snap for an 30 yard gain isn’t a great play by Cook. It’s a play that Josh is 100% responsible that good/solid QB’s like Goff are INCAPABLE of doing.

 

You are honestly disrespecting the greatness of Josh Allen. 
 

Goff on this Bills team doesn’t score 40+ tonight. Not even close.

 

You are so used to watching it you are numb to what you are seeing.

Josh is phenomenal.  Unquestionably the MVP.  Of course we’re dependent on him as is all teams with talented QBs.   The words I just used.    So disrespecting?  Get over yourself and your junk.  Like challenging me to a bet that the Lions would score their first drive of the second half then welching on it.  Have some class and send the $100 to Oishei..

[FireChans]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

How many times did he do that tonight? I think the first drive was 90% Josh Allen. There were a couple of other plays here and there too. But there were a TON of plays out there tonight that were coaching wins. I haven't seen Josh throw to as many open guys all year. 

Um, every pass to Ty Johnson except the rub route?

 

Also the 60 yard bomb running out of bounds to Coleman?

 

Scrambling out of pressure for key first downs or for 20+ yards at the end?

 

What are we talking about?

 

I’m not arguing that Brady didn’t call a great game. He did. Maybe his best game of the year. Kudos for that.

 

I’m arguing that independent of the QB, this offense would not have put up anywhere close to the numbers they did.

 

Ben Johnson called a fine game too. It wasn’t enough. 
 

Jared Goff is physically incapable of making half the plays Josh made this game. Full stop. 

If you switch QB’s, tonight’s result is 64-24. Full stop.

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Josh is phenomenal.  Unquestionably the MVP.  Of course we’re dependent on him as is all teams with talented QBs.   The words I just used.    So disrespecting?  Get over yourself and your junk.  Like challenging me to a bet that the Lions would score their first drive of the second half then welching on it.  Have some class and send the $100 to Oishei..

You didn’t even accept the bet til they punted lmao.

[oldmanfan]

5 minutes ago, Success said:

 

This game was all Allen. I don't see how anyone could dispute that.

 

That dude shouldn't have to be on the sideline wondering about an onside kick after a game like that.  How can you POSSIBLY argue that the coaches were on his level, or that anyone was?

 

Total denial in this fanbase.

 

What about the great catches from Johnson and Knox and Kincaid?

Edited December 16 by oldmanfan

[34-78-83]

This game was all Allen, plus Brady ( easily his best game as a coach), plus our absolutely dominant O line plus the running backs and their great hands.

 

 Beyond that the D pressured all day and got the few stops they needed. With mostly backups in the back end. Ed O with 10 qb pressures and a sack/ff was pretty helpful too

 

 Then Bass came through after an awful miss and sealed it essentially

Edited December 16 by 34-78-83