Portal Changes Needed?

[Mike in Horseheads]

They really need to look at opening the transfer portal before they play the bowl CFP games. Example, Marshall pulled out of a bowl game today because just about the whole team entered the portal when the coach quit. What happens when one of the playoff teams has this happen?

[US Egg]

They let Aladdin rub the lamp too soon. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

I say no portal until all bowl games are played and if you sit out the bowl game, you can't enter the portal.

 

I also say you must stay 3 years at the college you committed to,before you can  enter the portal.  Drafted into the NFL you must stay with the team that drafted you for 4-5 years.  I believe anyone team owns your rights for 3 years.

 

You can only enter the portal twice.

 

There needs to be a salary cap implemented just like the pros.

[LewPort71]

Change the portal time frame.  Allow the transfers but after say , Feb 1. for football and after April 15 for basketball.

But the genie is out and has created a mess.

I am a Marshall fan and not playing in the bowl game against Army is most disheartening.

 

On a positive note the Marshall men's soccer team plays for the National Championship on Monday Dec 16 on ESPN2

[ArdmoreRyno]

Everything needs to be fixed. Portal and the NIL. 

 

We need to cap the NIL. It's too much like the Wild Wild West. People like Dave Portnoy (and another booster, don't remember) are paying $10,500,000 for the #1 QB in high school. Oklahoma State's entire 2023 NIL fund? $5.3 million. 

 

Need to cap the NIL or it's going to destroy smaller programs who don't have the massive donors. If T. Boone was still alive, OSU could compete with programs like Texas and Michigan. But now, we can't. 

 

As for the portal, needs to be a one time deal or you sit out a year. 

[BADOLBILZ]

11 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

They really need to look at opening the transfer portal before they play the bowl CFP games. Example, Marshall pulled out of a bowl game today because just about the whole team entered the portal when the coach quit. What happens when one of the playoff teams has this happen?

 

 

They looked at it.  Nobody outside of the state of WV cares that Marshall opted out because of the disrupt related to the coaching change.   It's highly unlikely to happen to a playoff team......especially to any of the ones who have a legitimate chance to win 3-4 playoff games.   But if it ever does it's just more drama for the product.  The only thing that REALLY harms a sport this popular is not playing the championship at all.     

[BADOLBILZ]

11 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

Everything needs to be fixed. Portal and the NIL. 

 

We need to cap the NIL. It's too much like the Wild Wild West. People like Dave Portnoy (and another booster, don't remember) are paying $10,500,000 for the #1 QB in high school. Oklahoma State's entire 2023 NIL fund? $5.3 million. 

 

Need to cap the NIL or it's going to destroy smaller programs who don't have the massive donors. If T. Boone was still alive, OSU could compete with programs like Texas and Michigan. But now, we can't. 

 

As for the portal, needs to be a one time deal or you sit out a year. 

 

 

An Oklahoma State fan complaining about money being used against them?   You've got to be kidding me, T-Boone.   Not a good recruiting state, not a destination for players from good recruiting states, not ideal TV exposure.......  You just think you are a football school because that oil money made it work for a long time.   All it takes is one big fish to come in and do it again.   But talking about illegally capping what a player can earn off the field?   That's not very USA of you.  Once the amateur status was lifted......before the courts MADE them lift it........that horse was out of the barn and not coming back.   

[cle23]

5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I say no portal until all bowl games are played and if you sit out the bowl game, you can't enter the portal.

 

I also say you must stay 3 years at the college you committed to,before you can  enter the portal.  Drafted into the NFL you must stay with the team that drafted you for 4-5 years.  I believe anyone team owns your rights for 3 years.

 

You can only enter the portal twice.

 

There needs to be a salary cap implemented just like the pros.

 

A college salary cap has already been ruled illegal. 

 

If we're trying to implement these rules,  then make the rules for coaches as well. 

[BADOLBILZ]

11 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

A college salary cap has already been ruled illegal. 

 

If we're trying to implement these rules,  then make the rules for coaches as well. 

 

 

Yeah fans of teams who feel they are negatively impacted by the current system want immediate changes but the reality is that this has to play itself out now.    The NCAA and the big football factories let their greed get the best of them and lost control of it.   Some of the plantations.....err "schools".....don't like it.   But it's way better than the exploitation that was happening before.   The product is some how just fine despite all of the portal movement and we are getting more meaningful games than ever.  Win-win for college football fans.

[Orlando Buffalo]

I agree overall but a student told me that his brother had to transfer when he did because of classes, otherwise he would have to skip the entire second semester. I admit I don't think much about the kids who football is just a way to get an education, which is a lot of them 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

I agree overall but a student told me that his brother had to transfer when he did because of classes, otherwise he would have to skip the entire second semester. I admit I don't think much about the kids who football is just a way to get an education, which is a lot of them 

 

 

Yeah like I mentioned in the other thread, the VAST majority of players are in this category.  All most fans notice are the big money players who can get guaranteed starting roles/playing time.     

[ArdmoreRyno]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

An Oklahoma State fan complaining about money being used against them?   You've got to be kidding me, T-Boone.   Not a good recruiting state, not a destination for players from good recruiting states, not ideal TV exposure.......  You just think you are a football school because that oil money made it work for a long time.   All it takes is one big fish to come in and do it again.   But talking about illegally capping what a player can earn off the field?   That's not very USA of you.  Once the amateur status was lifted......before the courts MADE them lift it........that horse was out of the barn and not coming back.   

 

Boy, I touched a nerve. Holy *****. 

 

Someone posted about the portal, I gave an example of NIL money and what to do with the portal... and you go off on a half-a-paragraph rant. 

 

Chill-TF-out

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Looks fine to me...🤔

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

A college salary cap has already been ruled illegal. 

 

If we're trying to implement these rules,  then make the rules for coaches as well. 

No way it can be illegal, it's done in every league 

[ArdmoreRyno]

3 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

A college salary cap has already been ruled illegal. 

 

If we're trying to implement these rules,  then make the rules for coaches as well. 

 No, it hasn’t. 
 

https://www.dailycardinal.com/article/2024/11/salary-caps-are-coming-to-college-sports-heres-how-uw-madison-may-be-impacted

[cle23]

4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

No way it can be illegal, it's done in every league 

 

Yes, a professional league. The money going to the college players is essentially endorsements, which can't be capped.

 

https://www.sportico.com/law/analysis/2024/house-ncaa-settlement-illlegal-nil-california-nebraska-oregon-1234819133/

 

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39585390/ncaa-enforce-nil-rules-judge-grants-injunction

 

The NFL can't cap endorsements either, just salary. And it can prevent side deals to circumvent the cap through the league,  but not outside endorsements.

Edited December 16 by cle23

[BADOLBILZ]

7 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Boy, I touched a nerve. Holy *****. 

 

Someone posted about the portal, I gave an example of NIL money and what to do with the portal... and you go off on a half-a-paragraph rant. 

 

Chill-TF-out

 

You're clearly the one who is mad about how changes have impacted your football program.   I'm just laughing at your child-like train of thought.   😂

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

12 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

You're clearly the one who is mad about how changes have impacted your football program.   I'm just laughing at your child-like train of thought.   😂

 

 

Not sure where I come across "mad" about the changes. Again, the topic of this post was the portal and changes to college football and how to 'fix it'. 

 

I was commenting on the landscape and future of the game and I'm 100% right. If you don't have a T. Boone (which we don't anymore), Phil Knight, Dave Portnoy, etc. as an active booster who is willing to dish out tens of millions... your program will likely be a non-factor for any high profile recruits. Seems the world of college football agrees because we are getting a cap on these things soon (see article I posted). 

 

Anyway, go take your Xanax. 

[BADOLBILZ]

8 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Not sure where I come across "mad" about the changes. Again, the topic of this post was the portal and changes to college football and how to 'fix it'. 

 

I was commenting on the landscape and future of the game and I'm 100% right. If you don't have a T. Boone (which we don't anymore), Phil Knight, Dave Portnoy, etc. as an active booster who is willing to dish out tens of millions... your program will likely be a non-factor for any high profile recruits. Seems the world of college football agrees because we are getting a cap on these things soon (see article I posted). 

 

Anyway, go take your Xanax. 

 

Not sure?   How about when you are whining about not having a competitive NIL budget.😂  So NOW you want to level the economic playing field?  Wasn't bothering you when T.Boone was giving you out-sized facilities(among other things) to compete with the best programs.

 

The on-field product in college football has never been more competitive.

 

There are actually more than 1-2 teams that can win a national championship.......for the first time in forever.

 

But your takeaway is that it's unfair to your fringe top 30 program because NIL isn't a strength.......at the moment.   I'm sorry if it's temporarily gotten a little harder for your program to get into the top 10 more frequently.   But the reality is that in those seasons when paper tiger OK State teams were highly ranked they would have been beaten down by a 50 point margin by the eventual champion.   They were never as close as the ranking indicated because there was such a larger gap between the best and the rest.   NIL and the portal are helping to close that gap and distribute talent better.  You just need your 'boys to get on the NIL train.

[ArdmoreRyno]

55 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Not sure?   How about when you are whining about not having a competitive NIL budget.😂  So NOW you want to level the economic playing field?  Wasn't bothering you when T.Boone was giving you out-sized facilities(among other things) to compete with the best programs.

 

The on-field product in college football has never been more competitive.

 

There are actually more than 1-2 teams that can win a national championship.......for the first time in forever.

 

But your takeaway is that it's unfair to your fringe top 30 program because NIL isn't a strength.......at the moment.   I'm sorry if it's temporarily gotten a little harder for your program to get into the top 10 more frequently.   But the reality is that in those seasons when paper tiger OK State teams were highly ranked they would have been beaten down by a 50 point margin by the eventual champion.   They were never as close as the ranking indicated because there was such a larger gap between the best and the rest.   NIL and the portal are helping to close that gap and distribute talent better.  You just need your 'boys to get on the NIL train.

 

You had a logical reply until that. 

Teams like the 2011 Oklahoma State team or even the 2021 team, could have and would have beat about anyone in the country. 2011 was the best offense in football, by far. 2021, arguably the best defense in college football.