The New Jersey Drones

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

24 minutes ago, sherpa said:

I hate to do this, but am compelled.

There is a mass amount of uniformed opinion about this, but I want to clear something up that seems to be in evidence.

 

AIRSPACE OVER MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IS MOST OFTEN NOT RESTRICTED.

 

Got that?

The fact that there is a military installation does not mean that the airspace over it is restricted.

More often than not, it is not restricted.

 

There are some places that are, but this is a total red herring re this drone nonsense.

 

There is controlled airspace that you need to get a clearance to fly through; nothing to do with security, everything to do with traffic.

There is uncontrolled airspace. Flying in there requires no FAA clearance.

There is restricted airspace, which limits who can fly there.

There is prohibited airspace, which means nobody can fly through there without a special clearance.

 

 

Seems like a reasonable explanation of how it works.

 

 I do a fair amount of my own home/property repairs, and it’s not uncommon for me to tell my wife a project will take me 3 hours and it takes 8.  I usually tell her the challenge comes in when I don’t know what I don’t know until I have to know it.  
 

On this issue, someone declares that air space above a military base is restricted…it makes sense on some level that it should be that way because, well,  it’s a military base.  That gets repeated again and again, and we’re off to the races.  We don’t know what we don’t know.  
 

Now, I do have to keep in mind that you could—could—be part of the terminator drone crew sent out in advance to assure people that all is well while you enslave the world.  Rest assured my head is on a swivel, fly boy. 

[sherpa]

24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

On this issue, someone declares that air space above a military base is restricted…it makes sense on some level that it should be that way because, well,  it’s a military base.  That gets repeated again and again, and we’re off to the races.  We don’t know what we don’t know.  
 

Now, I do have to keep in mind that you could—could—be part of the terminator drone crew sent out in advance to assure people that all is well while you enslave the world.  Rest assured my head is on a swivel, fly boy. 

 

Swivel less.

Relax more.

 

The concept that military bases have restricted airspace above them is ridiculous.

Very few do.

 

 

[Roundybout]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You sound like you’re wrapped up in some sort of religious fervor.  
 

How much space are you allotting per family/individual in these little cubicle  castles once you convince people the world is ends unless they acquiesce?   How many children can a family have in the world order, because let’s be honest, when you speak doom and gloom and unsustainable certainly population must be managed.  
 

It sounds positively dreadful in my opinion.  
 

 

 

Which way, western man?

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

9 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Which way, western man?

 

 

Which way what, Podley Smallspace?  

Edited Tuesday at 11:02 PM by leh-nerd skin-erd

[Roundybout]

40 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Which way what, Podley Smallspace?  

Do you choose a rich and lively urban environment or the dead cookie cutter hell of suburban sprawl?

[Steve O]

4 hours ago, sherpa said:

There is a mass amount of uniformed opinion about this,

 

 

 

On a message board? Who would have thought!! (sorry, to use your words...I hate to do this, but am compelled.)

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

Do you choose a rich and lively urban environment or the dead cookie cutter hell of suburban sprawl?

We can move past your characterization, but I’m happy to address the question of which choice I would make.  I enjoy a rich and lively urban environment from time to time, mostly in small doses for short periods of time.  A few days here, a few days there, though I’m not a huge fan of urban sprawl and prefer my home in the suburbs by a considerable margin. 

 

I can understand why someone would prefer a city, just as I understand why some people would prefer a home in the suburbs or something more rural.   

[The Frankish Reich]

E-Mace-iated Ozempic Queen always ready with the sound bite!

 

 

[GETTOTHE50]

Can someone just sign a big ol spot light on them please? Hell it could even be the Batman sign. Anything please

[Roundybout]

8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

E-Mace-iated Ozempic Queen always ready with the sound bite!

 

 

Im shocked she didn’t blame the drones on transgender people to be honest. 

[Roundybout]

10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

We can move past your characterization, but I’m happy to address the question of which choice I would make.  I enjoy a rich and lively urban environment from time to time, mostly in small doses for short periods of time.  A few days here, a few days there, though I’m not a huge fan of urban sprawl and prefer my home in the suburbs by a considerable margin. 

 

I can understand why someone would prefer a city, just as I understand why some people would prefer a home in the suburbs or something more rural.   

Certainly, but it’s not as simple as “oh I want to live in a suburb on an acre lot.” Negative externalities exist and suburban sprawl is inefficient.

[Tommy Callahan]

The only people that want the 15 minute city are the ones that will own it.  The people in it will just rent everything. 

 

 

[Niagara Bill]

8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

E-Mace-iated Ozempic Queen always ready with the sound bite!

 

 

She is wrong. Even space aliens would never choose Jersey. 

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Certainly, but it’s not as simple as “oh I want to live in a suburb on an acre lot.” Negative externalities exist and suburban sprawl is inefficient.

Your bias is showing through these last couple posts.   A Google search suggests the average lot size in the US is about a quarter-acre and trending down.   
 

I would agree that in your world, government mandates and pressure to follow the herd into small boxes is a simple solution, it’s just not particularly appealing to many, many, many people.   It most definitely has a Cold War Prague-esque housing for the masses vibe to it. 

 

 

[RkFast]

15 hours ago, Roundybout said:

Do you choose a rich and lively urban environment or the dead cookie cutter hell of suburban sprawl?

 

Heres the "rich and lively" and "environmentally friendly" living arrangement that progressive YIMBY's dream of. They would legislate all of us into the favelas if they had the chance to do so.

 

Looks awesome.

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:59 PM by RkFast

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

15 hours ago, Steve O said:

On a message board? Who would have thought!! (sorry, to use your words...I hate to do this, but am compelled.)

This is where I shine, and no one ‘bout to take that away from me!  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

59 minutes ago, RkFast said:

 

Heres the "rich and lively" and "environmentally friendly" living arrangement that progressive YIMBY's dream of. They would legislate all of us into the favelas if they had the chance to do so.

 

Looks awesome.

 

Look, everyone gets their allotted 47 sf of living space on floors 1-58, with natural fluorescent light to improve mood and enhance feelings of joy.  Each familial unit is allowed 1.3567 offspring per birthing unit, access to the recreation yard every 4.87 days, and a substantial offering of climate friendly compliant dishes to choose from. 
 

 

 

[RkFast]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Look, everyone gets their allotted 47 sf of living space on floors 1-58, with natural fluorescent light to improve mood and enhance feelings of joy.  Each familial unit is allowed 1.3567 offspring per birthing unit, access to the recreation yard every 4.87 days, and a substantial offering of climate friendly compliant dishes to choose from. 
 

 

 

 

What those dopes will NEVER understand is that people like me and you aint pushing back on that sort of thing or those who choose freely to live like that.  Its THEIR desire to have the rest of US..by force...live like that is what we push back on.  If you notice, roundy isnt just touting "urban living"...hes looking to also cast disdain on suburban living and those who choose to live in a suburban setting and stating by implication that it must be done away with.  Notice how he prattles about the "negative exernalities" of suburban living yet mentions none of the negative aspects of urban living. That right there is how you know youre not dealing with an honest broker. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:08 PM by RkFast

[sherpa]

17 hours ago, Steve O said:

On a message board? Who would have thought!! (sorry, to use your words...I hate to do this, but am compelled.)

 

I wasn't referring to a message board.

I was referring to the reporting from the uninformed media.