Would you sign up right now for a Buffalo at Kansas City AFCCG?

[SaulGoodman]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

Allen had more total yards in both games, more big plays, and more TD's.  You like appealing to national opinion, and most thought Allen played better the last 2 match-ups in the playoffs.

 

You can make an argument that it was closer to even - the stats were fairly close, but eye test gives Allen the edge.  But no way was Mahomes better in any measurable way.   Allen generally outplays in him the regular season games, also.

 

Your comment about Allen "Then again, he’s always been great at demolishing weak defenses/bad teams in the regular season. We’ll see what he does on the big stage this time" was really off base.  Allen has been fantastic in the playoffs, and against good & great teams (i.e. like the Lions on Sunday).

 

 

"Most thought." That could mean two of the three pundits you happened to listen to. 

 

 

Last postseason, Mahomes completed 74% of his passes with a 9.3 average. Allen completed 67% with an average of 4.8. QBR 91.5 vs 66. Allen had fewer passing yds despite 16 more attempts. 

 

In the 13 seconds game, Mahomes totaled 447 yds. Allen had 397 on about the same number of throws/rushes. Both had 4 TDs. Mahomes the higher QBR. 

 

And Mahomes clearly had a better game in the 2020 AFCC.

 

[Success]

9 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

 

"Most thought." That could mean two of the three pundits you happened to listen to. 

 

 

Last postseason, Mahomes completed 74% of his passes with a 9.3 average. Allen completed 67% with an average of 4.8. QBR 91.5 vs 66. Allen had fewer passing yds despite 16 more attempts. 

 

In the 13 seconds game, Mahomes totaled 447 yds. Allen had 397 on about the same number of throws/rushes. Both had 4 TDs. Mahomes the higher QBR. 

 

And Mahomes clearly had a better game in the 2020 AFCC.

 

 

You counting OT in that 13 seconds game, eh?

 

And I get why you didn't do the stats for the '24 game.  Yes - Mahomes was better in '20, when the Bills top 4 receivers all had significant injuries, including a broken leg & an oblique.

 

Your implication that Allen feasts on bad teams and doesn't really show up on the "big stage" was laughable. Sorry 'bout that.

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:33 PM by Success

[SaulGoodman]

14 hours ago, Success said:

 

You counting OT in that 13 seconds game, eh?

 

And I get why you didn't do the stats for the '24 game.  Yes - Mahomes was better in '20, when the Bills top 4 receivers all had significant injuries, including a broken leg & an oblique.

 

Their top two WRs (by far) played and put up 165 yds. They did that with significant injuries?

 

Besides, Mahomes has played well in back to back postseasons despite crappy WRs AND weak tackles. 

 

Comparing yardage when there’s a huge disparity in passing/rushing attempts, but not when they’re close (13 seconds) is slightly biased. 
 

You really can’t make a great case that Allen outplayed him last year (especially when you factor in the fumble on the last drive) or in 2020. 

You can make a case that Allen outplayed him in the 13 seconds game, but since the numbers are so close, I think Mahomes deserves the nod for a few reasons. 1) He was facing the #1 rated defense. 2) KC’s DBs repeatedly blew coverage or fell down, leaving receivers wide open at the worst possible moments. 
 

Allen is playing better than Mahomes right now, but it’s a stretch to say he’s played better in the postseason. We’ll see what happens this year. 

 

14 hours ago, Success said:

 

Your implication that Allen feasts on bad teams and doesn't really show up on the "big stage" was laughable. Sorry 'bout that.

 

I didn’t imply that he hasn’t played well in the postseason. I was just pointing out that this happens pretty much every year. Fans/media hype the Bills and say they’re unstoppable, largely based on blowing out inferior teams. It’s possible that the Bills’ offense is better than ever right now, but their defense looks to be much worse than usual. We’ll see how it shakes out. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:09 PM by SaulGoodman

[njbuff]

I started this thread, but the opposite affect is true, meaning ANOTHER loss to KC in the AFCCG might be the most puke-worthy event in Bills fandom history.

[Chaos]

2 hours ago, njbuff said:

I started this thread, but the opposite affect is true, meaning ANOTHER loss to KC in the AFCCG might be the most puke-worthy event in Bills fandom history.

If it is in the championship round, at least this a bit of an improvement

[Augie]

25 minutes ago, Chaos said:

If it is in the championship round, at least this a bit of an improvement

 

I want to enjoy the ride as long as possible, and that’s true every year. I’ve never quite gotten to the finish line, but I have enjoyed the ride. 

 

 

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Edited 11 hours ago by Augie

[NORWOODS FOOT]

Bring it the fhuc on!!!

 

I can’t go the the game not matter the location, but wouldn’t it be sweet to knock off the Chiefs on their home field. Exorcise the demons of 13 seconds

 

 

[boyst]

For as much as is said about making fun of Buffalo and our losses at least people know Buffalo is in NY and there's no mistaking it's near Canada. 

 

As for the Kansas City Chiefs, I'd bet most people don't realize they're not in Kansas. Most probably have no idea where they are...

[Billsfanatic8989]

41 minutes ago, Chaos said:

If it is in the championship round, at least this a bit of an improvement

I don't think many fans will look at it this way. 

 

It's SB or bust at this point. Elite QB's don't grow on trees. We can't waste one.

 

Losing in the AFC title game vs divisional round won't make me feel better as a fan. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Billsfanatic8989

[GoBills!]

I’m not afraid anymore, you hear that Pat. I’m not afraid anymore…. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The chiefs are going to be there so yeah, obviously thats best case for us. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Brianmoorman4jesus

[Success]

Beating the Chiefs to get to the show would be euphoria. Losing to them again would be the depths of despair. 

 

Gotta love sports.

 

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

For as much as is said about making fun of Buffalo and our losses at least people know Buffalo is in NY and there's no mistaking it's near Canada. 

 

As for the Kansas City Chiefs, I'd bet most people don't realize they're not in Kansas. Most probably have no idea where they are...

Well I mean if you're a fan of football I'm pretty sure you realize they're in Kansas City Missouri 

 

But there's a lot of dumb people

1 hour ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

I don't think many fans will look at it this way. 

 

It's SB or bust at this point. Elite QB's don't grow on trees. We can't waste one.

 

Losing in the AFC title game vs divisional round won't make me feel better as a fan. 

Dan Marino is the best pure quarterback of all time and he went to one super bowl never won one and was Jim Kelly's little brother 

 

But as far as quarterbacking goes he's the best ever even Tom Brady is not as good as a quarterback.. what football is is the ultimate team game

[Billsfanatic8989]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Well I mean if you're a fan of football I'm pretty sure you realize they're in Kansas City Missouri 

 

But there's a lot of dumb people

Dan Marino is the best pure quarterback of all time and he went to one super bowl never won one and was Jim Kelly's little brother 

 

But as far as quarterbacking goes he's the best ever even Tom Brady is not as good as a quarterback.. what football is is the ultimate team game

Are we talking about physical traits? Sure, Marino and many other QB's were/are better. 

 

 

[zow2]

I was hoping KC would get ambushed by the Chargers, Browns or Texans but nope, they handled business.  Now it comes down to the Steelers and  Broncos, road games against what should be very motivated teams.  I’m still grasping at the 1 seed. i think it’s good for Buffalo to have that chance in their minds at least for tomorrows game.  Playing meaningless games for 3 weeks would not be good.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Are we talking about physical traits? Sure, Marino and many other QB's were/are better. 

 

 

I'm talking about pure accuracy arm strength pocket presents awareness 

 

Tom Brady is not and will never be the best quarterback in my eyes 

 

He was paired up with the best coach of the last 40 years.. who gave consistent top defenses 

 

Tom Brady is certainly one of the best 

 

But there's zero doubt that Dan Marino is the best pure quarterback he would be throwing for 6,000 yards today

[BigAl2526]

That is the most likely matchup for the conference championship game for sure.  Buffalo matches up better versus KC this year compared to the last few.  

[TheWeatherMan]

Only if Mahomes is playing at 100%, I don’t want any excuses from Chiefs fans.  I hope he’s back to full health, today he was playing with only one ankle.  That one legged 15 yard TD scramble was the play of the year.

[NewEra]

On 12/17/2024 at 4:22 PM, SaulGoodman said:

 

"Most thought." That could mean two of the three pundits you happened to listen to. 

 

 

Last postseason, Mahomes completed 74% of his passes with a 9.3 average. Allen completed 67% with an average of 4.8. QBR 91.5 vs 66. Allen had fewer passing yds despite 16 more attempts. 

 

In the 13 seconds game, Mahomes totaled 447 yds. Allen had 397 on about the same number of throws/rushes. Both had 4 TDs. Mahomes the higher QBR. 

 

And Mahomes clearly had a better game in the 2020 AFCC.

 

In the 13 second game- the rules were changed because our QB was so good.  Following the 13 second game, Josh Allen was the favorite for MVP and the Bills were the favorite to win the Super Bowl…. Because Josh Allen played for the Bills.  Mahomes has the better situation. Josh is the better player. 
 

Josh also played against a Spags led D (:see better situation). The guy that engineered the D to beat Tom Brady and the greatest offense, maybe ever, to win the Super with Eli Manning under center.   
 

Mahomes played Frazier-  who never made a super bowl calling plays.
 

He also had Andy Reid calling plays- vs Daboll….  

He was also throwing to Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce.  2 HoG elite playmakers. Josh was throwing to a non hall of fame roster

 

the better situation.  

 

it’s all coming to light who the best player is.  
 

but he’s not in the best situation.  Mahomes is

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I want to enjoy the ride as long as possible, and that’s true every year. I’ve never quite gotten to the finish line, but I have enjoyed the ride. 

 

 

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Agreed.  It’ll always be, just one before I die, but I’m enjoying the **** out of Josh Allen

[SaulGoodman]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

For as much as is said about making fun of Buffalo and our losses at least people know Buffalo is in NY and there's no mistaking it's near Canada. 

 

As for the Kansas City Chiefs, I'd bet most people don't realize they're not in Kansas. Most probably have no idea where they are...

Many don’t know the geography or where the stadium’s located, that’s for sure.