Warriorspikes51 Posted Monday at 08:47 PM Posted Monday at 08:47 PM Still leaning yes, but will change my thought process if KC loses to Houston or Pittsburgh 1 Quote
NewEra Posted Monday at 08:53 PM Posted Monday at 08:53 PM 31 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: No, the ref thing is a thing created by bitter fans who have Chiefs fatigue. Nothing more, nothing less. Buffalo gets more calls in big moments than KC and that’s a fact, backed by numbers. Allen has played better than Mahomes lately, sure. Great pass protection vs awful pass protection may have something to do with that. Then again, he’s always been great at demolishing weak defenses/bad teams in the regular season. We’ll see what he does on the big stage this time. That’s a fact? Please elaborate- show me some evidence if you are going to say that it’s a fact. it’s a fact that they haven’t been called for a hold in any Super Bowl win. It’s a fact that I’ve seen your OL hold the opposition in those said games- and not be called. what facts do you have that proves the Bills are the beneficiary of more calls than the chiefs? While defending Mahomes vs Allen- you state “awful pass protection”- which is more evidence of why KC will likely not win the SB this year- unless they hold all game and not get caught- similar to the SB last year vs the Niners. While you’re throwing out excuses as to why Mahomes is now lesser than Allen, one could say that Majomes has only been better than Allen in the past because Andy Reid vs McD. Andy Reid Vs Daboll, Dorsey, Brady. Spags vs Frazier. Chris jones vs nobody. Kelce vs Diggs. Being healthy vs being severely injured. but yeah, as I was saying, Allen > Mahomes Quote
Aussie Joe Posted Monday at 08:55 PM Posted Monday at 08:55 PM On 12/16/2024 at 3:01 AM, SaulGoodman said: Hey, if people want to do this to themselves, that’s their prerogative. Personally, I love that the media/social media are giving KC so much bulletin board material. I was reading the Lions message board earlier …. Quite a number of them have the temerity to say that they would prefer to play KC in the SB rather than the Bills … You need to get yourself over there and start taking names . Quote
Billsfanatic8989 Posted Monday at 08:58 PM Posted Monday at 08:58 PM Do I think there's a 50/50 chance the Bills win? Yes. But I also think that percentage is higher if we got Denver or Pittsburgh at home instead. So no I wouldn't voluntarily choose to play KC over anyone else. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Monday at 09:17 PM Posted Monday at 09:17 PM 21 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I was reading the Lions message board earlier …. Quite a number of them have the temerity to say that they would prefer to play KC in the SB rather than the Bills … You need to get yourself over there and start taking names . The Lions won't be sniffing the SB, so I'm not too worried about who they prefer to face. Quote
RiotAct Posted Monday at 09:19 PM Posted Monday at 09:19 PM 1 minute ago, SaulGoodman said: The Lions won't be sniffing the SB, so I'm not too worried about who they prefer to face. I wouldn’t be so sure about that (injuries notwithstanding…) Quote
Aussie Joe Posted Monday at 09:21 PM Posted Monday at 09:21 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: The Lions won't be sniffing the SB, so I'm not too worried about who they prefer to face. So you are only worried about what bills fans think then ? You think their team is making the SB? Edited Monday at 09:23 PM by Aussie Joe Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Monday at 09:32 PM Posted Monday at 09:32 PM 24 minutes ago, NewEra said: That’s a fact? Please elaborate- show me some evidence if you are going to say that it’s a fact. it’s a fact that they haven’t been called for a hold in any Super Bowl win. It’s a fact that I’ve seen your OL hold the opposition in those said games- and not be called. what facts do you have that proves the Bills are the beneficiary of more calls than the chiefs? I've already linked an article showing that KC's been flagged more in late game/close game situations than any other team in the league. That's what's hilarious about the ref narrative... When you actually dig into it, you find the truth is closer to the opposite. 24 minutes ago, NewEra said: While defending Mahomes vs Allen- you state “awful pass protection”- which is more evidence of why KC will likely not win the SB this year- unless they hold all game and not get caught- similar to the SB last year vs the Niners. While you’re throwing out excuses as to why Mahomes is now lesser than Allen, one could say that Majomes has only been better than Allen in the past because Andy Reid vs McD. Andy Reid Vs Daboll, Dorsey, Brady. Spags vs Frazier. Chris jones vs nobody. Kelce vs Diggs. Being healthy vs being severely injured. but yeah, as I was saying, Allen > Mahomes Excuses only work in one direction, I know. Btw, I'm not making excuses. There's no reason to. Speaking of excuses, the narrative has been that Allen did everything he could've done in the postseason, and the defense let him down. This Bills defense is playing far worse than any of Allen's past defenses. Not a concern? As for the pass protection...if Wanya Morris were going to be the starting LT throughout the playoffs, I'd be very concerned about that. That won't be the case. Quote
NewEra Posted Monday at 10:07 PM Posted Monday at 10:07 PM 30 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: I've already linked an article showing that KC's been flagged more in late game/close game situations than any other team in the league. That's what's hilarious about the ref narrative... When you actually dig into it, you find the truth is closer to the opposite. And we’ve linked several obvious holds and bad no calls vs the chiefs. Both can be true…..unless you’re a chiefs fan 30 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: Excuses only work in one direction, I know. Btw, I'm not making excuses. There's no reason to. Speaking of excuses, the narrative has been that Allen did everything he could've done in the postseason, and the defense let him down. This Bills defense is playing far worse than any of Allen's past defenses. Not a concern? As for the pass protection...if Wanya Morris were going to be the starting LT throughout the playoffs, I'd be very concerned about that. That won't be the case. Of course there’s concern. No one is saying we’re definitely going to win the Super Bowl. What we know is, Josh Allen is currently the best football player on earth- he’s better than he’s ever been. That gives great reason for optimism. Quote
dma0034 Posted Monday at 10:16 PM Posted Monday at 10:16 PM Yes 100%. I think really only the Ravens have a realistic chance of knocking out the Bills in the AFC Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Tuesday at 12:15 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:15 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, NewEra said: And we’ve linked several obvious holds and bad no calls vs the chiefs. Both can be true…..unless you’re a chiefs fan If the rules were strictly and consistently enforced, they could call holding on almost every snap. But since you found some examples of questionable no-calls in KC’s favor, I guess that confirms a conspiracy is afoot or something? Who needs data when you have the opinions of biased armchair refs? Edited Tuesday at 12:20 AM by SaulGoodman Quote
Success Posted Tuesday at 12:21 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:21 AM 4 hours ago, SaulGoodman said: No, the ref thing is a thing created by bitter fans who have Chiefs fatigue. Nothing more, nothing less. Buffalo gets more calls in big moments than KC and that’s a fact, backed by numbers. Allen has played better than Mahomes lately, sure. Great pass protection vs awful pass protection may have something to do with that. Then again, he’s always been great at demolishing weak defenses/bad teams in the regular season. We’ll see what he does on the big stage this time. Allen also played better than Mahomes in the 13 seconds game, and last year. You know - "the big stage." Allen is a better QB than Mahomes. On 12/15/2024 at 2:29 PM, Simon said: It might buy you a little extra juice on a Sunday afternoon in November but when the playoffs roll around, bulletin boards are irrelevant, imo. It should be irrelevant to any professional athlete for a playoff game. Quote
SinceThe70s Posted Tuesday at 12:37 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:37 AM 21 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: If the rules were strictly and consistently enforced, they could call holding on almost every snap. But since you found some examples of questionable no-calls in KC’s favor, I guess that confirms a conspiracy is afoot or something? Who needs data when you have the opinions of biased armchair refs? Who needs data when rules aren't strictly and consistently enforced? Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Tuesday at 01:05 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:05 AM 4 minutes ago, Success said: Allen also played better than Mahomes in the 13 seconds game, and last year. You know - "the big stage." Based on what? 4 minutes ago, Success said: Allen is a better QB than Mahomes. You guys apparently think it’s going to trigger me that Bills fans think Allen is better. Lol. What else would I expect? At the end of the day, I couldn’t care less how people want to rank them. I’m a Chiefs fan; not a quarterback groupie. Quote
Success Posted Tuesday at 01:19 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:19 AM 13 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: Based on what? You guys apparently think it’s going to trigger me that Bills fans think Allen is better. Lol. What else would I expect? At the end of the day, I couldn’t care less how people want to rank them. I’m a Chiefs fan; not a quarterback groupie. The bolded isn't that credible in light of your contributions to this board. 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted Tuesday at 01:24 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:24 AM 4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Still leaning yes, but will change my thought process if KC loses to Houston or Pittsburgh Hopefully Pittsburgh can kick it into gear. They weren’t great against Philly and who knows what’s going on with TJ Watt. If they rush him back and he gets reinsured, what then? No way he’s playing 4 days later on Christmas right? Houston have the capability but I feel they’ll be like the Bengals/Broncos/Chargers where they somehow manage to give the win to KC lol Outwith the Cowboys game they’ve been pretty average since blowing out the Patriots. Hopefully it’s a complete turn around and they start clicking into the gear they were in last year. Quote
SinceThe70s Posted Tuesday at 01:24 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:24 AM 4 minutes ago, Success said: The bolded isn't that credible in light of your contributions to this board. As trolls go, I wouldn't call this one elite. We've had better. 1 Quote
90sBills Posted Tuesday at 05:29 AM Posted Tuesday at 05:29 AM 4 hours ago, SaulGoodman said: Based on what? You guys apparently think it’s going to trigger me that Bills fans think Allen is better. Lol. What else would I expect? At the end of the day, I couldn’t care less how people want to rank them. I’m a Chiefs fan; not a quarterback groupie. You’re trying to go upstream without paddles. Just give up. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted Tuesday at 09:07 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:07 PM 19 hours ago, Success said: The bolded isn't that credible in light of your contributions to this board. I’m not sure what my alleged credibility has to do with anything. How was Mahomes outplayed in those playoff games? 1 Quote
Success Posted Tuesday at 09:23 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:23 PM (edited) 17 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: I’m not sure what my alleged credibility has to do with anything. How was Mahomes outplayed in those playoff games? Allen had more total yards in both games, more big plays, and more TD's. You like appealing to national opinion, and most thought Allen played better the last 2 match-ups in the playoffs. You can make an argument that it was closer to even - the stats were fairly close, but eye test gives Allen the edge. But no way was Mahomes better in any measurable way. Allen generally outplays in him the regular season games, also. Your comment about Allen "Then again, he’s always been great at demolishing weak defenses/bad teams in the regular season. We’ll see what he does on the big stage this time" was really off base. Allen has been fantastic in the playoffs, and against good & great teams (i.e. like the Lions on Sunday). Edited Tuesday at 09:25 PM by Success Quote
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