Would you sign up right now for a Buffalo at Kansas City AFCCG?

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, SaulGoodman said:

None of what matters? Bulletin board material?

 

That’s false. Jordan and many greats have used it to keep their edge and stay hungry. 

If this is bulletin board material, it’s some weak ass bulletin board material.  Can’t see this level of talk being a factor in a run 

[SaulGoodman]

43 minutes ago, NewEra said:

If this is bulletin board material, it’s some weak ass bulletin board material.  Can’t see this level of talk being a factor in a run 

People have been continually calling the 13-1 Chiefs the least intimidating playoff team and treating them like an afterthought. That’s pretty disrespectful.
 

There’s a reason that Mahomes’ trainer always provides him with clippings. He does draw extra motivation from it (as do Kelce and others). 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, SaulGoodman said:

People have been continually calling the 13-1 Chiefs the least intimidating playoff team and treating them like an afterthought. That’s pretty disrespectful.
 

There’s a reason that Mahomes’ trainer always provides him with clippings. He does draw extra motivation from it (as do Kelce and others). 

They haven’t looked good.  People watch games and recognize good footballs. KC isn’t playing great football compared to their record. A W is a W, but we have eyes

[SaulGoodman]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

They haven’t looked good.  People watch games and recognize good footballs. KC isn’t playing great football compared to their record. A W is a W, but we have eyes

Winners of 19 of 20 without playing good football, eh? Lol. 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

They haven’t looked good.  People watch games and recognize good footballs. KC isn’t playing great football compared to their record. A W is a W, but we have eyes

 

Their defense consistently plays as the best in the league.  
 

With the best Offensive mind in the game and solid interior Oline that wins 12 games automatically.   

 

Plus Mahomes is a good top 10 QB.  
 

[NewEra]

31 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

Winners of 19 of 20 without playing good football, eh? Lol. 

 

 

I didn’t say that.  I said they haven’t looked good.  
 

We’re better.  Not scared.  

[GreggTX]

As long as we don't have to play the Ravens again.

[Dr.Sack]

No. I’m playing with house $. 

[SaulGoodman]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I didn’t say that.  I said they haven’t looked good.  
 

We’re better.  Not scared.  

I don’t think a rested KC team in Arrowhead is going to be scared either. Especially with Hollywood coming back into the fold and an upgrade at LT.
 

Same story as most years, isn’t it? Bills get loads of hype late in the year, while KC is labeled unimpressive down the stretch. It was definitely the case last year, except that team lost 5 more games, including a truly awful performance on Christmas. 
 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

54 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

I don’t think a rested KC team in Arrowhead is going to be scared either. Especially with Hollywood coming back into the fold and an upgrade at LT.
 

Same story as most years, isn’t it? Bills get loads of hype late in the year, while KC is labeled unimpressive down the stretch. It was definitely the case last year, except that team lost 5 more games, including a truly awful performance on Christmas. 
 

Bills had a bodybag game against the Steelers and lost pretty much the whole linebacker room and this year I think the chiefs are the ones battling uphill with injury issues at home.  Should be interesting 

 

Chiefs just feel like a better match up for the bills than the ravens would be.  The whole angle of having a stable of pretty good not great defensive ends you can rotate in really only works against a team with pretty bad tackles lol I think the chiefs are probably a corner short with the Watson injury to slow down the bills on offense too.

 

Chiefs are still great and I’m talkin like 60/40 type game for the bills maximum. 

[NewEra]

10 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:

I don’t think a rested KC team in Arrowhead is going to be scared either. Especially with Hollywood coming back into the fold and an upgrade at LT.
 

Same story as most years, isn’t it? Bills get loads of hype late in the year, while KC is labeled unimpressive down the stretch. It was definitely the case last year, except that team lost 5 more games, including a truly awful performance on Christmas. 
 

The current discussion has nothing to do with KC being scared….

 

yes- that was the case last year.  
 

this is this year. 
 

and we ain’t scared.  That’s the discussion.  Read the title thread.  You’re over here….on a bills message board…..telling us that we should be scared of KC.  Look at what a tool you are

[SaulGoodman]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

The current discussion has nothing to do with KC being scared….

 

yes- that was the case last year.  
 

this is this year. 
 

and we ain’t scared.  That’s the discussion.  Read the title thread.  You’re over here….on a bills message board…..telling us that we should be scared of KC.  Look at what a tool you are

When did I say anyone should be scared?
 

I laughed at the idea that KC is the weakest of the playoff teams, which has become a popular mantra lately. And, as I said, it’s a take that isn’t likely to age well. 

[NewEra]

@SaulGoodman

 

Points wins games.  Maybe the refs will allow you guys to hold every play in the playoffs again- if not- I don’t like your chances.
 

one guy makes a post on page one stating that KC may be the weakest of the playoff group-  now that’s “a popular mantra”.  I haven’t heard much of that other than one post.  

they just don’t look like a team that’s going to win a Super Bowl. Same can be said for last season this time of year.  I just don’t think they’re going to do it again unless their bum OTs are given another hall pass or two or three

 

[SaulGoodman]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

@SaulGoodman

 

Points wins games.  Maybe the refs will allow you guys to hold every play in the playoffs again- if not- I don’t like your chances.
 

one guy makes a post on page one stating that KC may be the weakest of the playoff group-  now that’s “a popular mantra”.  I haven’t heard much of that other than one post.  

they just don’t look like a team that’s going to win a Super Bowl. Same can be said for last season this time of year.  I just don’t think they’re going to do it again unless their bum OTs are given another hall pass or two or three

 

 

That tweet is sure making the rounds, even though it's hard to imagine a less meaningful stat. KC's top 10ish in points scored, and the others in that list are all near the bottom. Regardless, a more meaningful number is points per drive. 30 pts in 15 drives isn't quite the same as 30 pts in 7 drives. 

 

Even after a few subpar games, KC leads the NFL by a mile on 3rd down conversion rate. That's a much better indicator of what the offense is capable of than total points scored. They also rank highly in success rate, EPA, etc. 

 

The offense hasn't been explosive, but it's much more effective/efficient than it's given credit for. Wanya Morris's injury turned him into a useless turnstile (he already wasn't very good), which caused some issues, but there's a solution for that. Humphries has already shown to be better, and they can move Thuney to LT if he isn't available. Hollywood Brown is due to join the offense this week or next. 

 

On defense, it's no coincidence that the D is looking great again since Omenihu returned. Watson may even be back for the postseason. They're getting healthy at the right time. There's really no question that the roster they're going to field this postseason will be better than the last few. But if people want to dismiss a team that's won 19 of 20 and finished no worse than an OT away from the Super Bowl each year of the Mahomes era, more power to you. I wouldn't bet the house on it. 

 

The ref stuff is pretty weak. Especially from the fan of a team that's benefited from a lot of big calls in late-game situations, and is allowed to hold Chris Jones on pretty much every play. 

 

 

 

 

[NewEra]

21 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

 

That tweet is sure making the rounds, even though it's hard to imagine a less meaningful stat. KC's top 10ish in points scored, and the others in that list are all near the bottom. Regardless, a more meaningful number is points per drive. 30 pts in 15 drives isn't quite the same as 30 pts in 7 drives. 

 

Even after a few subpar games, KC leads the NFL by a mile on 3rd down conversion rate. That's a much better indicator of what the offense is capable of than total points scored. They also rank highly in success rate, EPA, etc. 

 

The offense hasn't been explosive, but it's much more effective/efficient than it's given credit for. Wanya Morris's injury turned him into a useless turnstile (he already wasn't very good), which caused some issues, but there's a solution for that. Humphries has already shown to be better, and they can move Thuney to LT if he isn't available. Hollywood Brown is due to join the offense this week or next. 

 

On defense, it's no coincidence that the D is looking great again since Omenihu returned. Watson may even be back for the postseason. They're getting healthy at the right time. There's really no question that the roster they're going to field this postseason will be better than the last few. But if people want to dismiss a team that's won 19 of 20 and finished no worse than an OT away from the Super Bowl each year of the Mahomes era, more power to you. I wouldn't bet the house on it. 

 

The ref stuff is pretty weak. Especially from the fan of a team that's benefited from a lot of big calls in late-game situations, and is allowed to hold Chris Jones on pretty much every play. 

 

 

 

 

The most meaningful stat is whichever stat best sides with your argument.

 

The ref thing IS a thing, unless you’re a chiefs fan.  You’ve been called for ZERO holds in 3 super bowls wins.  We’ve seen blatant holds not getting called.  

we’ve all seen the video of Torrance manhandling Chris Jones this year.  Did we get away with a couple holds, maybe.  I have seen them.  Link?

 

Josh Allen >> Patrick Mahomes.  

[SaulGoodman]

29 minutes ago, NewEra said:

The most meaningful stat is whichever stat best sides with your argument.

 

The ref thing IS a thing, unless you’re a chiefs fan.  You’ve been called for ZERO holds in 3 super bowls wins.  We’ve seen blatant holds not getting called.  

we’ve all seen the video of Torrance manhandling Chris Jones this year.  Did we get away with a couple holds, maybe.  I have seen them.  Link?

 

Josh Allen >> Patrick Mahomes.  

No, the ref thing is a thing created by bitter fans who have Chiefs fatigue. Nothing more, nothing less. Buffalo gets more calls in big moments than KC and that’s a fact, backed by numbers. 
 

Allen has played better than Mahomes lately, sure. Great pass protection vs awful pass protection may have something to do with that. 
 

Then again, he’s always been great at demolishing weak defenses/bad teams in the regular season. We’ll see what he does on the big stage this time. 

Edited December 16 by SaulGoodman

[TheFunPolice]

It's like Flair's quote "To be the man, you have to BEAT the man! " 

 

It's the game America wants and needs!

 

Mahomes. 

Allen. 

 

With a trip to the SB on the line! 

 

Last time it happened Allen wasn't quite the same star he is now. Now he's every bit as big as Mahomes in terms of stardom. 

 

It's what you want as a sports fan: the biggest names in the biggest games. Does anyone really want to see an AFC Title Game of Ravens/Broncos? or Chargers/Steelers?

 

It's like the Brady/Manning days: do you want Brady vs Manning in the AFC Title Game or Brady vs Bortles. 

 

No, we want QB1 and QB1A (in whatever order) under the lights for a shot at a ring! It's what makes the playoffs more special than games in October. 

Edited December 16 by TheFunPolice

[CaseyatBat]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

@SaulGoodman

 

Points wins games.  Maybe the refs will allow you guys to hold every play in the playoffs again- if not- I don’t like your chances.
 

one guy makes a post on page one stating that KC may be the weakest of the playoff group-  now that’s “a popular mantra”.  I haven’t heard much of that other than one post.  

they just don’t look like a team that’s going to win a Super Bowl. Same can be said for last season this time of year.  I just don’t think they’re going to do it again unless their bum OTs are given another hall pass or two or three

 

 

A case where twitter is dumb. They are 13-1 and they have won football games by the scores of 30-24 and 30-27 this season.

 

yeah, technically its not "more than 30" but I don't think they care 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

17 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

No, the ref thing is a thing created by bitter fans who have Chiefs fatigue. Nothing more, nothing less. Buffalo gets more calls in big moments than KC and that’s a fact, backed by numbers. 
 

Allen has played better than Mahomes lately, sure. Great pass protection vs awful pass protection may have something to do with that. 
 

Then again, he’s always been great at demolishing weak defenses/bad teams in the regular season. We’ll see what he does on the big stage this time. 

I think it’s pretty irrelevant in either direction ref wise…seems like they just let teams play in the playoffs or in marquee matchups in the regular season.  Regular season when there’s a tossup judgement call and a great team playing a mediocre or bad one they definitely seem to lean the better teams way though. 
 

The pass protection point is a double edged sword as mahomes was in a much better situation on that front than Allen was for the bulk of these guys careers. 
 

both these guys are amazing and both of them are great in the playoffs…there’s no way to know what would happen if they swapped teams so it’s impossible to rank them imo 
 

 

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:

 

A case where twitter is dumb. They are 13-1 and they have won football games by the scores of 30-24 and 30-27 this season.

 

yeah, technically its not "more than 30" but I don't think they care 

I don’t think they care either.  That’s not the point.  This isn’t a statement of “the chiefs can’t win the Super Bowl”.  This is a case of they aren’t as good as their record suggests.  I certainly think that they one of the top 4 teams in the league and can win the Super Bowl.  I just don’t think that that WILL be the outcome when this season is over.