Pegula Interview on new limited partners

[PromoTheRobot]

9 hours ago, msw2112 said:

Interesting interview.  I did not know that Pegula grew up a Lions fan.  Now I do.  Terry projected well in this interview.  Why can't this carry over to the Sabres?  He needs to find his Beane and McDermott for the Sabres and let them to their thing.

 

To add - Sabres fans view Pegula as a buffoon who has run the franchise into the ground.  He certainly does not come off as a buffoon in this interview and he could not have had the business success he's had if he was incompetent.  How is it that he can be so successful with one franchise and so terrible with the other?  Again, the answer is that he has great people in place with the Bills and he lets them do their jobs.  He's tried many different angles to get the right people in place with the Sabres and (it appears that) after all these years, he still has not found them.  I believe that if and when he finally finds the right people to run the hockey team, the team will be successful and he'll be viewed very favorably as an owner.  Let's just hope that the team is not sold off and/or moved from Buffalo before that happens.  If you scroll down on the front page of Twobillsdrive, you'll see the Sabres comments and the first one is "Scorched Earth" which essentially calls for Pegula to sell the team.  I disagree and think that folks should be very careful what they wish for.

 

Two of his 3 major league teams are very good. The problem with the Sabres the longer they wallow the harder it gets to sign free agents/make trades. So they are trying to build their own team from the draft, so you end up with a lot of youth that play like it.

[zow2]

Terry has never been a great interview and maybe he’s lost a bit off his fastball so to speak. But i think we all agree, he’s a good man, he wants the best for Buffalo. and it’s just beyond sad about Kim’s health situation now,. and you can tell behind his voice that he misses her

[Straight Hucklebuck]

We’d be killing McDermott for running as much as the Rams are running Williams.

 

23 carries for 80 yards. 
 

Geez that’s inefficient. 

[PromoTheRobot]

24 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Terry has never been a great interview and maybe he’s lost a bit off his fastball so to speak. But i think we all agree, he’s a good man, he wants the best for Buffalo. and it’s just beyond sad about Kim’s health situation now,. and you can tell behind his voice that he misses her

 

He is the only reason the Bills are still here. People act like the Bills weren't going to move. They were on their way to Toronto if not for the crazy billionaire willing to not only overpay but commit to staying in the NFLs second-smallest market. He gets a lifetime of indulgences from me for that. Even if that includes effing up the Sabres.

Edited December 13 by PromoTheRobot

[Mr. WEO]

11 hours ago, msw2112 said:

Interesting interview.  I did not know that Pegula grew up a Lions fan.  Now I do.  Terry projected well in this interview.  Why can't this carry over to the Sabres?  He needs to find his Beane and McDermott for the Sabres and let them to their thing.

 

To add - Sabres fans view Pegula as a buffoon who has run the franchise into the ground.  He certainly does not come off as a buffoon in this interview and he could not have had the business success he's had if he was incompetent.  How is it that he can be so successful with one franchise and so terrible with the other?  Again, the answer is that he has great people in place with the Bills and he lets them do their jobs.  He's tried many different angles to get the right people in place with the Sabres and (it appears that) after all these years, he still has not found them.  I believe that if and when he finally finds the right people to run the hockey team, the team will be successful and he'll be viewed very favorably as an owner.  Let's just hope that the team is not sold off and/or moved from Buffalo before that happens.  If you scroll down on the front page of Twobillsdrive, you'll see the Sabres comments and the first one is "Scorched Earth" which essentially calls for Pegula to sell the team.  I disagree and think that folks should be very careful what they wish for.

 Why do so many equate competence in one very narrow field with competence in running a professional sports franchise?
 

Pegula is clearly not competent to run an NHL franchise.  What other evidence does one need to understand this?

[Mike in Horseheads]

15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 Why do so many equate competence in one very narrow field with competence in running a professional sports franchise?
 

Pegula is clearly not competent to run an NHL franchise.  What other evidence does one need to understand this?

but he is a NFL franchise, otay

[Maynard]

Screw him and his Lions. 

[QB Bills]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 Why do so many equate competence in one very narrow field with competence in running a professional sports franchise?
 

Pegula is clearly not competent to run an NHL franchise.  What other evidence does one need to understand this?

But he knows how to run a football franchise? 

 

Truth is, he likely doesn't know much about either sport. Bills struck gold with Allen. Sabres got stuck with Eichel instead of McDavid. 

[US Egg]

13 hours ago, loyal2dagame said:

He doesn't seem to have any ailments to me.

The amount of insensitive ignorant douche bags in here who know no low making things like this up and mock him for things so over the line is unreal.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 hours ago, Irv said:

I went to high school and played lacrosse with one of the new owners.  Who knew he had that kind of dough?  Part of me wonders if there is some major head injury/CTE lawsuit around the corner and owners are peeling off.    But good for him.  New owner is a great guy.  

Nope, just a bunch of really wealthy guys who made smart investments and want to cash in but remain in control.

 

Many of these owners will get double or triple their original investment back. 

1 minute ago, US Egg said:

The amount of insensitive ignorant douche bags in here who know no low making things like this up and mock him for things so over the line is unreal.

I get very upset when people take it too far with their criticisms of Pegulas.

Edited December 13 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Taro Nimbus]

8 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

We’d be killing McDermott for running as much as the Rams are running Williams.

 

23 carries for 80 yards. 
 

Geez that’s inefficient. 

And you somehow decided to post this on this thread.  🤦‍♂️

[Mr. WEO]

9 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

but he is a NFL franchise, otay

 

Doug Whaley/Rex Ryan

8 hours ago, QB Bills said:

But he knows how to run a football franchise? 

 

Truth is, he likely doesn't know much about either sport. Bills struck gold with Allen. Sabres got stuck with Eichel instead of McDavid. 

 

It's not just missing out on McDavid.  Every choice Pegula has made re: Sabres, has been a disaster.

[loyal2dagame]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Doug Whaley/Rex Ryan

 

It's not just missing out on McDavid.  Every choice Pegula has made re: Sabres, has been a disaster.

Not true.  He brought back Hasek, Miller, LaFonta.... wait a second.......

[hondo in seattle]

Judy Battista asks, "What did you get out of this?"   Terry provides a very nice answer that has never mentions the main truth:  He got hundreds of millions of dollars without giving up any control. 

 

I'm not criticizing, just saying.  It's kind of like asking free agents why they chose to sign with a certain team.  They rarely answer, "They offered the most money" even though that was usually the deciding factor.  

[Irv]

10 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Nope, just a bunch of really wealthy guys who made smart investments and want to cash in but remain in control.

 

Many of these owners will get double or triple their original investment back. 

 

Why would they cash in if they are doubling or tripling their investments?  Do they have better investments out there?  These two statements don't make a lot of sense financially.  Something else is going on.  

[Mango]

11 hours ago, QB Bills said:

But he knows how to run a football franchise? 

 

Truth is, he likely doesn't know much about either sport. Bills struck gold with Allen. Sabres got stuck with Eichel instead of McDavid. 

 

Not to hijack the thread but this team would still suck of it had McJesus. 

The overall problem with the Sabres is Terry's stupid leadership structure. it works with the Bills because McBeane came in as a unit with a prior working relationship But nobody really has any defined roles and Terry just picks sides because everybody rolls up directly to him. The same shirt happened in his first few years with the Bills. Terry struck gold with the McBeane tandem then again with Allen. He is trying to recreate that with the Sabres to some extent. He clearly recognizes that part of the current magic in OP is because everybody is on the same page. But unfortunately "the same page" is a bunch of unqualified yahoos in Terry himself, Forton, and Adams.

During the 49ers game the panned to Terry in his box where he was taking notes on the depth chart. I worry that he is fancying himself a football man the same way he considers himself a hockey man. Splitting up McBeane and bringing in a new person to go to Pegula directly is something I worry about. 

TL;DR: Terry's formula is broken, he just accidentally got it right once. But he is running both franchises the same way he ran them with Darcy, Ted Black, Botts, Murray, Russ Brandon, Doug Whaley, Rex Ryan, Ralph Krueger, Ted Nolan, Pat Lafontaine, etc. McBeane have found a way to make it work despite ownership. It is a masterclass. 
 

Edited December 13 by Mango

[RobbRiddick]

On 12/12/2024 at 4:32 PM, WotAGuy said:

I feel like I have dementia after reading the board this week. 

Not to worry you but you said the same thing last week.

 

[The Jokeman]

11 hours ago, QB Bills said:

But he knows how to run a football franchise? 

 

Truth is, he likely doesn't know much about either sport. Bills struck gold with Allen. Sabres got stuck with Eichel instead of McDavid. 

And had the Sabres allowed Eichel have the surgery like Vegas did the Sabre might be in a better place.

[WotAGuy]

12 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

Not to worry you but you said the same thing last week.

 

Tommy?  Is that you?  How’s Ellen and the kids?  Thanks for checking in Frank!

[Doc]

On 12/13/2024 at 12:02 PM, Mango said:

Not to hijack the thread but this team would still suck of it had McJesus. 

The overall problem with the Sabres is Terry's stupid leadership structure. it works with the Bills because McBeane came in as a unit with a prior working relationship But nobody really has any defined roles and Terry just picks sides because everybody rolls up directly to him. The same shirt happened in his first few years with the Bills. Terry struck gold with the McBeane tandem then again with Allen. He is trying to recreate that with the Sabres to some extent. He clearly recognizes that part of the current magic in OP is because everybody is on the same page. But unfortunately "the same page" is a bunch of unqualified yahoos in Terry himself, Forton, and Adams.

During the 49ers game the panned to Terry in his box where he was taking notes on the depth chart. I worry that he is fancying himself a football man the same way he considers himself a hockey man. Splitting up McBeane and bringing in a new person to go to Pegula directly is something I worry about. 

TL;DR: Terry's formula is broken, he just accidentally got it right once. But he is running both franchises the same way he ran them with Darcy, Ted Black, Botts, Murray, Russ Brandon, Doug Whaley, Rex Ryan, Ralph Krueger, Ted Nolan, Pat Lafontaine, etc. McBeane have found a way to make it work despite ownership. It is a masterclass.

 

It's poor drafting when it comes to the Sabres.  You can talk about defined roles and picking sides, but it's a game that is played by players.  Players who have been coached by formerly successful HC's.  And they still suck.  They're soft is what it is.  And they've lacked a quality goaltender, like the Bills lacked a quality QB for 17 years.

 

And as long as the Bills are successful, so is Terry as an owner.  And we're lucky to have him and that he came along when he did.  It's a shame what happened to Kim.

Edited December 14 by Doc