26TrapDraw Posted December 11 Posted December 11 My opinion is the insane effort athleticism and championship performance/ mentality of our once in a generation QB will once again be wasted by our coaching and defensive ineptitude. its infuriating. 1 1 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted December 11 Posted December 11 I like Sean McDermott, but he has to go. Quoting Colin Cowherd “he reminds me of Chuck Knox. A good coach, moved around a lot, couldn’t get it done” We can’t afford this with Josh Allen! 2 2 1 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted December 11 Posted December 11 I love that they're 10-3, that's already more wins than I thought they'd get. I love that the rest of the division stinks. The 3 losses were all brutally bad and mostly due to Defense. The Rams just gave a clinic to the league on how to demolish this Defense, maybe it was just a horrible game plan but to a man they were awful. Special Teams - I do shots of Pepto when they come on the field. I don't trust the Kicker, the Punter, our returners or the coverage units. Has it been confirmed there were only 9 Bills on the field on the final play vs the Rams ? .. If so, that's not acceptable. 1 Quote
folz Posted December 11 Posted December 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Regular season doesn't matter, only what we do in the postseason matters. It will be like this until Allen retires most likely. I don't care what seed unless it's the 1 seed, they need to get it done in the playoffs, especially on D/ST. 1 hour ago, 26TrapDraw said: My opinion is the insane effort athleticism and championship performance/ mentality of our once in a generation QB will once again be wasted by our coaching and defensive ineptitude. its infuriating. We have actually been a pretty good team in the playoffs under McDermott. You guys act like we get blown out every year in our first game or something. 5-6 record. And of the 6 losses, 2 were in overtime. 4 of the 6 losses were by one score. The average margin of loss for those 6 games is 8.3 points/game. We have the only perfect playoff game; and despite losing---the 13 seconds game is one of the best playoff games in league history. In two of the losses to Kansas City, at the end of regulation, KC was up by a combined 3 points (across both games)...I mean talk about narrowest of margins. The first three playoff losses, this team just wasn't ready yet (w/Tyrod vs. Jax; Josh was still raw vs. Houston, AFC Championship vs. KC---they were a better, more seasoned team---and got help from the refs). We were in real bad shape injury-wise for all three K.C. games (yet made two of them extremely close). And the loss to the Bengals wasn't hard to foresee with all of the turmoil that season, and again, injuries. People act as if every loss came down to one of the greatest coaching blunders of all time or that we're constantly getting blown out or are over-matched. And you also seem to think that no other coaches ever make mistakes; or lose in crazy, last-second miracles; or have play calls that are questioned after the game. Andy Reid was considered a horrible game-time decider/clock manager for almost 20 years...until he wasn't anymore because he won the big one. So was it true about him or not? Or did sometimes bad things happen, mistakes are made, you learn from them, you improve, etc. Or is it perception only? Until you win a Super Bowl, you as a coach will always be questioned about every decision because your last game of the year will be a loss, but once you've won a Super Bowl, you are a genius and thus unquestionable. Pretty poor way of assessing things, imo, especially when luck plays such a large role every year. Edited December 11 by folz 1 1 Quote
T master Posted December 11 Posted December 11 It's been a great season so far getting more & more Josh plays as the year goes on out side of the injury's they have been pretty strong and because of the offense the D hasn't had to do a real lot in order for the Bills to win, but now it's coming down to the wire and these teams are playing all out & getting healthy . The D needs to show it's self and help the offense out more or it's not going to turn out very good !! I hope the loss motivates them & i will bet Babich hasn't had a lot of sleep this week . And 1 would hope that McD would have sat the ST's coach down and chewed on that ass a bit . If the Bills in all 3 phases of the game are playing the way they are capable of they can beat any team on any given Sunday and i feel even win a Lombardi but if they don't a game like last week can happen . 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 11 Posted December 11 12 minutes ago, folz said: We have actually been a pretty good team in the playoffs under McDermott. You guys act like we get blown out every year in our first game or something. 5-6 record. And of the 6 losses, 2 were in overtime. 4 of the 6 losses were by one score. The average margin of loss for those 6 games is 8.3 points/game. We have the only perfect playoff game; and despite losing---the 13 seconds game is one of the best playoff games in league history. In two of the losses to Kansas City, at the end of regulation, KC was up by a combined 3 points (across both games)...I mean talk about narrowest of margins. The first three playoff losses, this team just wasn't ready yet (w/Tyrod vs. Jax; Josh was still raw vs. Houston, AFC Championship vs. KC---they were a better, more seasoned team---and got help from the refs). We were in real bad shape injury-wise for all three K.C. games (yet made two of them extremely close). And the loss to the Bengals wasn't hard to foresee with all of the turmoil that season, and again, injuries. People act as if every loss came down to one of the greatest coaching blunders of all time or that we're constantly getting blown out or are over-matched. And you also seem to think that no other coaches ever make mistakes; or lose in crazy, last-second miracles; or have play calls that are questioned after the game. Andy Reid was considered a horrible game-time decider/clock manager for almost 20 years...until he wasn't anymore because he won the big one. So was it true about him or not? Or did sometimes bad things happen, mistakes are made, you learn from them, you improve, etc. Or is it perception only? Until you win a Super Bowl, you as a coach will always be questioned about every decision because your last game of the year will be a loss, but once you've won a Super Bowl, you are a genius and thus unquestionable. Pretty poor way of assessing things, imo, especially when luck plays such a large role every year. What is the biggest seeded team we have beat in the playoffs? Quote
OldNMBillsFan Posted December 11 Posted December 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I like Sean McDermott, but he has to go. Quoting Colin Cowherd “he reminds me of Chuck Knox. A good coach, moved around a lot, couldn’t get it done” We can’t afford this with Josh Allen! I believe Colin Cowherd is wrong. Just like he was wrong when there was a rumor that Cleavland was going to take JA over Mayfield in the 2018 draft. Cowherd stated up and down that bad teams stay bad because of bad drafting and Cleveland would stay bad if they drafted Allen. He thought Mayfield was and would be significantly better than Josh. He said that Josh played in a small school and his completion percentage was terrible, even against other small schools. He stated over and over again that Josh would not improve his completion percentage in the NFL. He and many other so-called experts thought Josh would have a low ceiling in the NFL. But Beane and McDermott believed they were wrong, and went against the grain and selected Josh. To use Cowherd as any source of intelligence about the extent of someone's abilities is crazy, especially given his track record of sucking at it. GO BILLS!!! Edited December 11 by OldNMBillsFan Go Bills!!! Quote
DrBob806 Posted December 11 Posted December 11 18 hours ago, DeepPass said: D. Who cares about where the Bill's are seeded in the Play-offs GO BILLS! Exactly. The BYE would be nice, but it's probably gone now. We all thought getting KC at home last year would do the trick, nope. It's all about playing well on game day. Quote
OldNMBillsFan Posted December 11 Posted December 11 (edited) 18 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said: We have a fantastic roster. I don't understand why ppl keep saying this It's not perfect. But it's pretty damn good You think we have a fantastic roster? How many Bills will make the pro bowl this year? 2 again, maybe 3? The roster is why the Bills were selected by so many experts to finish 3rd in the division and some not even having the Bills making the playoffs. I think they are having an amazing year for what they have. And if they can win it all with this roster, I say we REVERSE THE CURSE, and they can win 4 in a row. GO BILLS!!! Edited December 11 by OldNMBillsFan Quote
RochesterLifer Posted December 11 Posted December 11 2 hours ago, folz said: We have actually been a pretty good team in the playoffs under McDermott. You guys act like we get blown out every year in our first game or something. 5-6 record. And of the 6 losses, 2 were in overtime. 4 of the 6 losses were by one score. The average margin of loss for those 6 games is 8.3 points/game. We have the only perfect playoff game; and despite losing---the 13 seconds game is one of the best playoff games in league history. In two of the losses to Kansas City, at the end of regulation, KC was up by a combined 3 points (across both games)...I mean talk about narrowest of margins. The first three playoff losses, this team just wasn't ready yet (w/Tyrod vs. Jax; Josh was still raw vs. Houston, AFC Championship vs. KC---they were a better, more seasoned team---and got help from the refs). We were in real bad shape injury-wise for all three K.C. games (yet made two of them extremely close). And the loss to the Bengals wasn't hard to foresee with all of the turmoil that season, and again, injuries. People act as if every loss came down to one of the greatest coaching blunders of all time or that we're constantly getting blown out or are over-matched. And you also seem to think that no other coaches ever make mistakes; or lose in crazy, last-second miracles; or have play calls that are questioned after the game. Andy Reid was considered a horrible game-time decider/clock manager for almost 20 years...until he wasn't anymore because he won the big one. So was it true about him or not? Or did sometimes bad things happen, mistakes are made, you learn from them, you improve, etc. Or is it perception only? Until you win a Super Bowl, you as a coach will always be questioned about every decision because your last game of the year will be a loss, but once you've won a Super Bowl, you are a genius and thus unquestionable. Pretty poor way of assessing things, imo, especially when luck plays such a large role every year. Thank you for this dose of positive reality. The posts this week have been truly laughable. Whining like a bunch of six-year-old girls who dropped their cotton candy. Sunday, we fell from 13-2 to 13-3, fer crissake. We’re having a great season, in the midst of a great eight-year run. And, we have the potential to make this season our special year. Let’s enjoy it. Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 11 Posted December 11 2 hours ago, Mikie2times said: What is the biggest seeded team we have beat in the playoffs? Steelers were the #1 seed in the '92-'93 season and we beat them in the Divisional round. A young Bill Cowher coached team who many people said could never win a Super Bowl. Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 11 Posted December 11 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Steelers were the #1 seed in the '92-'93 season and we beat them in the Divisional round. A young Bill Cowher coached team who many people said could never win a Super Bowl. I just meant with this iteration. That was a very meaningful game for me. Certainly remember when we used be at our best in the postseason but that was a long time ago Quote
Doc Brown Posted December 11 Posted December 11 Just now, Mikie2times said: I just meant with this iteration. That was a very meaningful game for me. Certainly remember when we used be at our best in the postseason but that was a long time ago I know but it's absurd to me that people don't think McDermott will ever win a Super Bowl. Bill Cowher, Andy Reid, and Tony Dungy faced similar criticisms. 3 1 Quote
DeepPass Posted December 11 Author Posted December 11 15 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Opinion D has always been my opinion as well, at least the last 3 years. Once we won a couple AFC East titles all I cared about is getting in the playoffs and advancing. I also think there’s a bit more pressure on the Bills if they get the Chiefs in Buffalo. Going to Arrowhead they can play loose. I think the Bills play better on the road - -agree with you about Arrowhead! 11 hours ago, Sweats said: At the beginning of the season, most people had written this team off and figured we'd never even sniff the playoffs this year, however, it ends up a 5th straight AFCEast title (it helped that the rest of our division was complete shite), JA is Mr. MVP (should be anyways) and our young roster has stepped up to compete (most times) and people are still complaining. I've wallowed in too many inept, disastrous years of trash from this team to ever allow me to come down on where we've been, where we are and where we're going. Just...enjoy...the...ride. I so agree. A great, great ride now and for years to come!! Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 12 Posted December 12 3 hours ago, folz said: We have actually been a pretty good team in the playoffs under McDermott. You guys act like we get blown out every year in our first game or something. 5-6 record. And of the 6 losses, 2 were in overtime. 4 of the 6 losses were by one score. The average margin of loss for those 6 games is 8.3 points/game. We have the only perfect playoff game; and despite losing---the 13 seconds game is one of the best playoff games in league history. In two of the losses to Kansas City, at the end of regulation, KC was up by a combined 3 points (across both games)...I mean talk about narrowest of margins. The first three playoff losses, this team just wasn't ready yet (w/Tyrod vs. Jax; Josh was still raw vs. Houston, AFC Championship vs. KC---they were a better, more seasoned team---and got help from the refs). We were in real bad shape injury-wise for all three K.C. games (yet made two of them extremely close). And the loss to the Bengals wasn't hard to foresee with all of the turmoil that season, and again, injuries. People act as if every loss came down to one of the greatest coaching blunders of all time or that we're constantly getting blown out or are over-matched. And you also seem to think that no other coaches ever make mistakes; or lose in crazy, last-second miracles; or have play calls that are questioned after the game. Andy Reid was considered a horrible game-time decider/clock manager for almost 20 years...until he wasn't anymore because he won the big one. So was it true about him or not? Or did sometimes bad things happen, mistakes are made, you learn from them, you improve, etc. Or is it perception only? Until you win a Super Bowl, you as a coach will always be questioned about every decision because your last game of the year will be a loss, but once you've won a Super Bowl, you are a genius and thus unquestionable. Pretty poor way of assessing things, imo, especially when luck plays such a large role every year. I get what you are saying,but it doesn't matter if it's by 1 point or 20, a loss is a loss and we can't get by KC or Cincinnati in the playoffs. McDermott hasn't shown he csn coach against the big boys come playoff time. He needs to do it this year or make a change amd see if somone else can get us to the super bowl Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 12 Posted December 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: I know but it's absurd to me that people don't think McDermott will ever win a Super Bowl. Bill Cowher, Andy Reid, and Tony Dungy faced similar criticisms. I mean Reid had been to 4 conference championships and won one by year 6. Then he didn’t go onto do better things until he left and Mahomes came along. That was almost 20 years later from when he started. But it all started only two years after he had Mahomes. Cowher had won a conference championship in his 4th year. Like Tomlin, he had awful QB’s most his tenure, but did a great job turning that into something. His Super Bowl came in the 2nd year for big Ben nearly a decade later from when he started. Dungy needed two separate teams and nearly a decade to get it done with his second team. Once he had Manning it took five years. Even with his one trophy those Colts teams have to be one of the most underachieving of all time. In the case of the Eagles, Bucs, and Steelers they all won Super Bowls in five years or less of these coaches leaving. Bucs and Steelers nearly immediately. The Colts went to one and lost the following year. All of these coaches accomplished more way earlier than Sean has. In many instances with far less at QB, but when they did get a good QB they won it rather quickly. It took all of them a very long time to finally get to that point, some not even on the same team and when they did exit, those teams won Super Bowls very quickly. So I don’t know if your examples are things we should be trying to emulate. To me they’re more cautionary tail and what we want to avoid. Edited December 12 by Mikie2times 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted December 12 Posted December 12 2 hours ago, OldNMBillsFan said: You think we have a fantastic roster? How many Bills will make the pro bowl this year? 2 again, maybe 3? The roster is why the Bills were selected by so many experts to finish 3rd in the division and some not even having the Bills making the playoffs. I think they are having an amazing year for what they have. And if they can win it all with this roster, I say we REVERSE THE CURSE, and they can win 4 in a row. GO BILLS!!! The experts picked the woody Johnson jets to win the division? Quote
Boatdrinks Posted December 12 Posted December 12 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: I know but it's absurd to me that people don't think McDermott will ever win a Super Bowl. Bill Cowher, Andy Reid, and Tony Dungy faced similar criticisms. A lot of coping going on in those types of opinions. No one wants to be the one to step up and say they think he’ll get it done. Much easier to pile on and say otherwise. Less disappointment if a playoff loss occurs. 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 12 Posted December 12 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: A lot of coping going on in those types of opinions. No one wants to be the one to step up and say they think he’ll get it done. Much easier to pile on and say otherwise. Less disappointment if a playoff loss occurs. Not really. Just people actually researching these concepts. Felt this way since 13 seconds. 1 Quote
Governor Posted December 12 Posted December 12 (edited) 6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I like Sean McDermott, but he has to go. Quoting Colin Cowherd “he reminds me of Chuck Knox. A good coach, moved around a lot, couldn’t get it done” We can’t afford this with Josh Allen! After the inevitable happens again this year I think McD should get 1 more year but only if he hires a new DC that brings in a NEW scheme and McD is HC only. Use the next draft on defense for that new unit. Hands off the defense entirely. That should be the ultimatum or Josh should just leave. After the Rams game the media immediately blamed McD and his defense. I expect that to continue and he will be feasted upon. They’re getting ready to pounce and for good reason. This time, the whole world will know why the “league mvp” was again robbed of a SB. Edited December 12 by Governor 1 Quote
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