Opinions on this wonderful 2024 Bills season at 10-3

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I mean Reid had been to 4 conference championships and won one by year 6. Then he didn’t go onto do better things until he left and Mahomes came along. That was almost 20 years later from when he started. But it all started only two years after he had Mahomes. 
 

Cowher had won a conference championship in his 4th year. Like Tomlin, he had awful QB’s most his tenure, but did a great job turning that into something. His Super Bowl can win just the 2nd year for big Ben nearly a decade later from when he started.

 

Dungy needed two separate teams and nearly a decade to get it done with his second team. Once he had Manning it took five years. Even with his one trophy those Colts teams have to be one of the most underachieving of all time. 
 

In the case of the Eagles, Bucs, and Steelers they all won Super Bowls in five years or less of these coaches leaving. Bucs and Steelers nearly immediately. The Colts went to one and lost the following year. 
 

All of these coaches accomplished more way early than Sean has. In many instances with far less at QB, but when they did get a good QB they won it rather quickly. It took all of them a very long time to finally get ti the point, some not even on the same team and when they did exit, those teams won Super Bowls very quickly. So I don’t know if your examples are things we should be trying to

emulate. To me they’re more cautionary tail and what we want to avoid. Even then, our trend is behind what the trend of these coaches were. It’s not a good look and not hard to see why so many don’t think this will happen. 

 

 

No one is trying to emulate anyone or anything. They’re just trying to get to nd win a Super Bowl. Mostly the Bills have had a bunch of bad luck when it comes to advancing or not. Even 13 seconds took a bunch of unfortunate things combined with questionable strategy to put the Chiefs ahead. 

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Not really. Just people actually researching these concepts. Felt this way since 13 seconds. 

Nah it’s coping. There’s no concepts to research or magic key. No mystical formula. Just a few plays here and there in most cases. I get it , Bills fans have had to chew on some really tough losses. Easier to brace yourself for a negative outcome and lessen the disappointment than it is to Bill-ieve ! It will just make the victory so much sweeter when Josh Allen Hoists the Lombardi overhead for all the Mafia to see. 

[Mikie2times]

27 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

No one is trying to emulate anyone or anything. They’re just trying to get to nd win a Super Bowl. Mostly the Bills have had a bunch of bad luck when it comes to advancing or not. Even 13 seconds took a bunch of unfortunate things combined with questionable strategy to put the Chiefs ahead. 

Nah it’s coping. There’s no concepts to research or magic key. No mystical formula. Just a few plays here and there in most cases. I get it , Bills fans have had to chew on some really tough losses. Easier to brace yourself for a negative outcome and lessen the disappointment than it is to Bill-ieve ! It will just make the victory so much sweeter when Josh Allen Hoists the Lombardi overhead for all the Mafia to see. 

So if we don’t believe in this HC it can only be a result of coping and emotionally defending ourselves because of our past scars. No logical reason exists why we might not support this coach according to you?
 

How do you process our defensive performances in the playoffs? Full games of getting gashed and out schemed by multiple teams in multiple years? Don’t want the stats on these things I imagine, it might disrupt your theory…

Edited December 12 by Mikie2times

[Georgia Bill]

No one can rightfully say that any other team in the NFL is far superior to the Bills, and the fans of every team have things that they worry about.  I'd rather be having a season like the Bills have had going into the playoffs than one like the Chief's have had, where damn near every game is ridiculously close to disaster.  I think their luck is going to run out in the playoffs.  Conversely it seems like Lady luck just has to eventually end up gracing the Bills in the playoffs - and there's no reason to say it can't be this year.  Keep the faith Bills fans!

[Boatdrinks]

8 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

So if we don’t believe in this HC it can only be a result of coping and emotionally defending ourselves because of our past scars. No logical reason exists why we might not support this coach according to you?
 

How do you process our defensive performances in the playoffs? Full games of getting gashed and out schemed by multiple teams in multiple years? Don’t want the stats on these things I imagine, it might disrupt your theory…

I believe Josh Allen will win this team a Super Bowl. The Bills defensive performances have been exactly what they looked like. Proof that the Bills are not an elite defensive football team. I’ve got my issues with McDermott, and I don’t think he will be the reason the Bills get a SuperBowl win. But these negative posts are just a coping mechanism for tough losses. What’s the point of watching if you just think the team will lose anyway? I want to watch the best QB in the NFL- Josh Allen bring a Lombardi trophy home to Buffalo. I think he can because he’s that good. The Bills defense isn’t tops in the league, but they’re good enough if healthy. 

[ganesh]

12 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Did people really take the Jets and Dolphins that serious? 

The media did...all of the pundits had either one of them as their representative in the playoffs from the AFC East.

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

I believe Josh Allen will win this team a Super Bowl. The Bills defensive performances have been exactly what they looked like. Proof that the Bills are not an elite defensive football team. I’ve got my issues with McDermott, and I don’t think he will be the reason the Bills get a SuperBowl win. But these negative posts are just a coping mechanism for tough losses. What’s the point of watching if you just think the team will lose anyway? I want to watch the best QB in the NFL- Josh Allen bring a Lombardi trophy home to Buffalo. I think he can because he’s that good. The Bills defense isn’t tops in the league, but they’re good enough if healthy. 

well said

6 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said:

No one can rightfully say that any other team in the NFL is far superior to the Bills, and the fans of every team have things that they worry about.  I'd rather be having a season like the Bills have had going into the playoffs than one like the Chief's have had, where damn near every game is ridiculously close to disaster.  I think their luck is going to run out in the playoffs.  Conversely it seems like Lady luck just has to eventually end up gracing the Bills in the playoffs - and there's no reason to say it can't be this year.  Keep the faith Bills fans!

As they say -  Once you are in the playoffs, anything is possible.  Go Bills !!!

[JaCrispy]

I would like to see us dedicate our top 3 picks, in the upcoming draft, to DL and CB…👍

[Mikie2times]

13 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I believe Josh Allen will win this team a Super Bowl. The Bills defensive performances have been exactly what they looked like. Proof that the Bills are not an elite defensive football team. I’ve got my issues with McDermott, and I don’t think he will be the reason the Bills get a SuperBowl win. But these negative posts are just a coping mechanism for tough losses. What’s the point of watching if you just think the team will lose anyway? I want to watch the best QB in the NFL- Josh Allen bring a Lombardi trophy home to Buffalo. I think he can because he’s that good. The Bills defense isn’t tops in the league, but they’re good enough if healthy. 

Well the good news is everybody who still wants him out wants to win a Super Bowl. It’s not like this is new. I have wanted him out since the Bengals playoff game. It won’t change unless I see a reason why it should change. The fact that we have Josh to overcome him doesn’t mean we should still root for him.
 

I also think you underestimate his ability to undermine what Josh does. He dropped 40+ points last game, not enough. So many more like it. Wanting McD out has literally nothing to do with how I or many others root for the team.
 

I actually think we will beat the Lions. Most on here don’t. This board has a real bad tendency to put people in boxes that just aren’t close. You think people that want him out wouldn’t enjoy a Super Bowl if it happened or success when it happens? Not even close. Happy to eat the Crowe to boot if that happens. But I really don’t think I’m wrong on this and it’s not because I need some method of coping. It’s what I think the closest answer is to reality. If I felt we could overcome him and we had the evidence to support that I would feel the other way. 
 

This notion of just ignoring what you think is accurate so you can hope or believe in something somewhat blindly is not how I view this. 
 

 

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Well the good news is everybody who still wants him out wants to win a Super Bowl. It’s not like this is new. I have wanted him out since the Bengals playoff game. It won’t change unless I see a reason why it should change. The fact that we have Josh to overcome him doesn’t mean we should still root for him.
 

I also think you underestimate his ability to undermine what Josh does. He dropped 40+ points last game, not enough. So many more like it. Wanting McD out has literally nothing to do with how I or many others root for the team.
 

I actually think we will beat the Lions. Most on here don’t. This board has a real bad tendency to put people in boxes that just aren’t close. You think people that want him out wouldn’t enjoy a Super Bowl if it happened or success when it happens? Not even close. Happy to eat the Crowe to boot if that happens. But I really don’t think I’m wrong on this and it’s not because I need some method of coping. It’s what I think the closest answer is to reality. If I felt we could overcome him and we had the evidence to support that I would feel the other way. 
 

This notion of just ignoring what you think is accurate so you can hope or believe in something somewhat blindly is not how I view this. 
 

 

Again if you don’t feel the Bills have what it takes to “ overcome” their head coach , what’s the point of watching them ? Of course you wouldn’t ignore it, but you’d probably be watching something else. Would you waste time following/ watching a certain failure? Probably not; you’d say call me when you get a new coach. So the negative posts are a major coping mechanism or just hoping you are right about your take on the Bills - a sort of Shadenfreude. 

[Mikie2times]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Again if you don’t feel the Bills have what it takes to “ overcome” their head coach , what’s the point of watching them ? Of course you wouldn’t ignore it, but you’d probably be watching something else. Would you waste time following/ watching a certain failure? Probably not; you’d say call me when you get a new coach. So the negative posts are a major coping mechanism or just hoping you are right about your take on the Bills - a sort of Shadenfreude. 

So by this logic we should have never watched them for 20+ years during the drought. If you think something, like they won’t do well, you should just turn in your fan card. You think you’re onto some cute thought process with this but it’s just that. Cute. Logical?  Not really. Good to take attention away from our playoff performance though. Facts don’t favor anybody going down that path. Misdirection is much better.

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

So by this logic we should have never watched them for 20+ years during the drought. If you think something, like they won’t do well, you should just turn in your fan card. You think you’re onto some cute thought process with this but it’s just that. Cute. Logical?  Not really. Good to take attention away from our playoff performance though. Facts don’t favor anybody going down that path. Misdirection is much better.

It’s quite logical actually. If you’re so certain that the Bills will fail due to their head coach , following them or dedicating hours of time to watching them is pure folly. Very illogical behavior for one who is certain and in the know. 
  Any Bills fan who has watched in recent years is familiar with the playoff games and performances. They don’t need more attention because it’s irrelevant: not only is it known but it’s completely in the past. All that matters is the future and that means this season and really ,the next game. There will be plenty to discuss to be sure. Making dour predictions and statements when there are at least 5 games remaining to be played is illogical - unless it’s just a lot of coping for the inevitable disappointment that’s around the corner. 

[Mikie2times]

13 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

It’s quite logical actually. If you’re so certain that the Bills will fail due to their head coach , following them or dedicating hours of time to watching them is pure folly. Very illogical behavior for one who is certain and in the know. 
  Any Bills fan who has watched in recent years is familiar with the playoff games and performances. They don’t need more attention because it’s irrelevant: not only is it known but it’s completely in the past. All that matters is the future and that means this season and really ,the next game. There will be plenty to discuss to be sure. Making dour predictions and statements when there are at least 5 games remaining to be played is illogical - unless it’s just a lot of coping for the inevitable disappointment that’s around the corner. 

You’re silly with this opinion of yours and doing a reasonably good job keeping the conversation away from anything related to a fact. Which is smart when you don’t have a position to argue. 
 

I’m not certain of anything in this world. I think a lot of things but I’m not certain. This one, I’m about 80%, which is about as certain as one could be on this subject. In fact I would say most the Bills fans in the world felt at least 80% certain we would suck for the majority of the existence of this franchise. I’m sure in thinking that they still wanted to watch with the hope it didn't happen.

Edited December 12 by Mikie2times

[Mister Defense]

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

No one is trying to emulate anyone or anything. They’re just trying to get to nd win a Super Bowl. Mostly the Bills have had a bunch of bad luck when it comes to advancing or not. Even 13 seconds took a bunch of unfortunate things combined with questionable strategy to put the Chiefs ahead. 

Nah it’s coping. There’s no concepts to research or magic key. No mystical formula. Just a few plays here and there in most cases. I get it , Bills fans have had to chew on some really tough losses. Easier to brace yourself for a negative outcome and lessen the disappointment than it is to Bill-ieve ! It will just make the victory so much sweeter when Josh Allen Hoists the Lombardi overhead for all the Mafia to see. 

 

How dare you offer a more realistic, positive, optimistic outlook, like the one above, in the face of so much irrational negativity in the wake of one loss?

 

Shame on you.

 

 

Edited December 12 by Mister Defense

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

A lot of coping going on in those types of opinions. No one wants to be the one to step up and say they think he’ll get it done. Much easier to pile on and say otherwise. Less disappointment if a playoff loss occurs. 

If they keep Beane, McDermott and Allen together they’ll get it done.  The laws of probability will prevail and those calling for McDermott’s head will humbly admit they were “glad they were wrong.”

[Boatdrinks]

8 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

You’re silly with this opinion of yours and doing a reasonably good job keeping the conversation away from anything related to a fact. Which is smart when you don’t have a position to argue. 
 

I’m not certain of anything in this world. I think a lot of things but I’m not certain. This one, I’m about 80%, which is about as certain as one could be on this subject. In fact I would say most the Bills fans in the world felt at least 80% certain we would suck for the majority of the existence of this franchise. I’m sure in thinking that they still wanted to watch with the hope it didn't happen.

So when you watch are you hoping that bad things don’t happen, or wanting to see Josh Allen and teammates do great things? I’m unclear on this. Anyway, I think you realize that sports fandom isn’t primarily based on logic. Regardless of how much of it you want to bring into the conversation to show you’re absolutely not thinking the Bills will win in the playoffs. However you’re more than willing to be ecstatic if they do. If they win Bills fans will rejoice. If they don’t - it’s probably going to mean some big changes will be made in the organization. Most of us would prefer the former I’d venture- as the latter doesn’t guarantee better or even nearly as good results. I’ll be hoping and even expecting to see a lot more wins this season - and I’ll be surprised and disappointed if the Bills don’t at least get to the AFC title game. Don’t want to jinx anything by bringing up more than that- yes illogical , I know. 

[Mister Defense]

48 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Well the good news is everybody who still wants him out wants to win a Super Bowl. It’s not like this is new. I have wanted him out since the Bengals playoff game. It won’t change unless I see a reason why it should change. The fact that we have Josh to overcome him doesn’t mean we should still root for him.
 

I also think you underestimate his ability to undermine what Josh does. He dropped 40+ points last game, not enough. So many more like it. Wanting McD out has literally nothing to do with how I or many others root for the team.
 

I actually think we will beat the Lions. Most on here don’t. This board has a real bad tendency to put people in boxes that just aren’t close. You think people that want him out wouldn’t enjoy a Super Bowl if it happened or success when it happens? Not even close. Happy to eat the Crowe to boot if that happens. But I really don’t think I’m wrong on this and it’s not because I need some method of coping. It’s what I think the closest answer is to reality. If I felt we could overcome him and we had the evidence to support that I would feel the other way. 
 

This notion of just ignoring what you think is accurate so you can hope or believe in something somewhat blindly is not how I view this. 
 

 

 

Consistently ignoring all of the good in something to "so you can hope or believe in something" so consistently irrationally negative, is much worse than what you accuse the poster of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

So when you watch are you hoping that bad things don’t happen, or wanting to see Josh Allen and teammates do great things? I’m unclear on this. Anyway, I think you realize that sports fandom isn’t primarily based on logic. Regardless of how much of it you want to bring into the conversation to show you’re absolutely not thinking the Bills will win in the playoffs. However you’re more than willing to be ecstatic if they do. If they win Bills fans will rejoice. If they don’t - it’s probably going to mean some big changes will be made in the organization. Most of us would prefer the former I’d venture- as the latter doesn’t guarantee better or even nearly as good results. I’ll be hoping and even expecting to see a lot more wins this season - and I’ll be surprised and disappointed if the Bills don’t at least get to the AFC title game. Don’t want to jinx anything by bringing up more than that- yes illogical , I know. 

Who doesn’t watch Josh with excitement? Who wants bad things to happen? I doubt it’s many people. I will be pumped Sunday as I always am. 
 

I don’t see much changing even if we lost in the divisional. I think Terry backs Sean at a pretty high level. 
 

This is a good post and if they make the AFC title game, unless it’s just a massacre, I would be pretty happy (although I want more like all of us). 

 

4 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Consistently ignoring all of the good in something to "so you can hope or believe in something" so consistently irrationally negative, is much worse than what you accuse the poster of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good story 

[Homey D. Clown]

This team is wasting Josh Allen this year.  it's the uncomfortable truth.  

[Gregg]

Just now, Homey D. Clown said:

This team is wasting Josh Allen this year.  it's the uncomfortable truth.  

 

They are 10-3. I wouldn't call that wasting it. But with this team everyone knows they will be judged by what happens in the playoffs.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

18 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

So if we don’t believe in this HC it can only be a result of coping and emotionally defending ourselves because of our past scars. No logical reason exists why we might not support this coach according to you?
 

How do you process our defensive performances in the playoffs? Full games of getting gashed and out schemed by multiple teams in multiple years? Don’t want the stats on these things I imagine, it might disrupt your theory…

I can see the negative side for sure but I gotta be honest watching all those linebacker injuries down the stretch last year I didn’t think there was a chance in hell we’d hold the chiefs under 30 points and have a chance to win the game.  
 

Really don’t think we’re losing that game if we had anyone but aj klein available.  Crazy how much the optics shift if that’s the case.  We’d be 5-1 against kc in the last 6 with the 1 loss being 13 seconds

[Buffalo Ballin]

17 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

If they keep Beane, McDermott and Allen together they’ll get it done.  The laws of probability will prevail and those calling for McDermott’s head will humbly admit they were “glad they were wrong.”

So you want us to say this next year and the year after that? And on and on and on (if we don't get to the Super Bowl)?