Mikie2times Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 We allowed 179 points in these games and we have Josh. So when McD gets exposed it usually ends in a pretty wild competition. 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 9:17 PM, HamSandwhich said: I think the Josh putting on the cape and being superman in games we lose in a tough way is a bit of the chicken or the egg. He will usually put on the cape when we are behind, so that tends to be when he puts up monster numbers. Expand I think this is fair. But we saw Sunday is truly unbelievable. He was an alien. What he did in that 2nd half on Sunday was just... its not normal. I think it honestly was the greatest performance by a QB in the history of professional football. On 12/11/2024 at 9:21 PM, Mikie2times said: We allowed 179 points in these games and we have Josh. So when McD gets exposed it usually ends in a pretty wild competition. Expand It kind of becomes Josh vs McD. Can Allen's greatness win the tug-of-war battle against McD's downfalls. And I think Allen actually won that competition on Sunday. But then Smiley joined McD's side of the rope, and McD and Babich together was just slightly stronger than Allen alone. 3 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 (edited) On 12/11/2024 at 5:22 PM, Mister Defense said: What a silly willfully ignorant OP He chooses losses and calls all of those the "games of the year" and ignores the many actual games of the year, such as the one just a few weeks ago against the Chiefs, just to make the nonsensical bash-the- Bills point. And the game of the week last year, for the division against the Dolphins? And Etcetera etcetera etcetera..... The Bills come through over and over and over again under McDermott. But in this OP the games of the year are the Bills' few losses, that is how he determines if they are games of the year. Willful and comical ignorance. "Uncanny" only if you cherry pick in an extremely negative, illogical way. How the heck was the game against the Cardinals, the hail Mary game, a game of the year? No one was saying that at the time--NO one. Chosen here just because it was a Bills' loss. And redefined now as a "game of the year". Since 2020 the Bills have a 14-3 record in December, coming through almost every time, in one big, vital game after another. That is uncanny, not this drivel pushed in the OP. Expand Watching how incapable you’re of seeing an opposing view without going into one of your tirades is turning into one of the highlights of my experience here. Bravo 👏 Edited December 11, 2024 by Mikie2times Quote
WotAGuy Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 7:09 PM, T.E. said: I can't believe the Bills fans on this thread who insist that they don't lose in insanely improbable ways at any higher frequency than any other team. I'll just assume they're 15 years old. Expand I’m sure Dallas fans are having the same conversation after losing that way to the Bengals - and winning me $100! Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 9:22 PM, Einstein said: I think this is fair. But we saw Sunday is truly unbelievable. He was an alien. What he did in that 2nd half on Sunday was just... its not normal. I think it honestly was the greatest performance by a QB in the history of professional football. It kind of becomes Josh vs McD. Can Allen's greatness win the tug-of-war battle against McD's downfalls. And I think Allen actually won that competition on Sunday. But then Smiley joined McD's side of the rope, and McD and Babich together was just slightly stronger than Allen alone. Expand I don't understand why its all on Mcdermott here. Like questionable coaching and clock decisions i guess? But the defense playing like hot garbage is... on the dudes on the field. There aren't plays you can call that fix the teams performance. If anything, the blitzing and run blitzing in the 2nd half did cause some level of stress - and a few calls went their way. The punt block is because ferguson got absolutely blown up - how do you coach a player to not do that? On 12/11/2024 at 9:27 PM, WotAGuy said: I’m sure Dallas fans are having the same conversation after losing that way to the Bengals - and winning me $100! Expand I just... you're a professional football player. How do you touch that ball? If you don't see it touch one of their players, assume it didn't. Quote
MJS Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 9:10 PM, uninja said: As a neutral fan you’d watch that game excited af because it’s two teams just going at it. Exciting plays, big momentum swings, large deficit comebacks and it coming down to the wire. Basically the Hollywood version of an NFL game. Expand And each of them were Bills losses, apparently? Why not any of the wins? Quote
Mikie2times Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 9:30 PM, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I don't understand why its all on Mcdermott here. Like questionable coaching and clock decisions i guess? But the defense playing like hot garbage is... on the dudes on the field. There aren't plays you can call that fix the teams performance. If anything, the blitzing and run blitzing in the 2nd half did cause some level of stress - and a few calls went their way. The punt block is because ferguson got absolutely blown up - how do you coach a player to not do that? I just... you're a professional football player. How do you touch that ball? If you don't see it touch one of their players, assume it didn't. Expand You don’t think it’s the defensive system we have and our inability to adjust? I have posted this a few times now. Burrow is 17 of 17, for like 180 yards and 3TD’s on opening drives vs us. Including the Hamlin game. That can’t be the players can it? We will see these games again in the postseason, which most of you view as super negative take but how can’t one land on that conclusion? We have seen the normal dose of them this year as we did last year. The flareups when we play respectable teams. We have given the Colts, Bengals, Chiefs x2 top 3 offensive performances on the year when they faced us in the postseason. So in the context of the entire season of games they played, top 3 vs us for playoff football. 4 different teams, 3 different years. Arguably the only competent defensive performances we have in the postseason were against Mason Rudolph and Skyler Thompson (despite allowing 30+ points we did play well). Then Lamar with Greg Roman in Gail force winds. We are 3-9 when we allow 30 or more points since 2020 and 15-21 when we allow more than 21. That is the split we will be living in for the playoffs. I know, I’m not a fan, I’m negative, I’m a horrible person and I kick puppies. It’s impossible for me to pin this all on the players and if that’s something that even could be done then somebody really needs to look at Beane (not saying that’s the case, just saying) 1 Quote
ngbills Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 I am more disturbed by the losses we have no business losing or just horrible coaching. Just the past couple seasons... HOU - Clock management at its worse. Not sure I have ever seen what happened in both the end of the 1st half and end of the game. NYJ - Lost on a punt return for TD in OT DEN - Too many men on the field FG game PHI - Mentioned earlier KC - 13 seconds 1 Quote
Joe Ferguson Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 As long it's not the Super Bowl I'm okay with it. 1 Quote
colin Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 10:08 PM, Mikie2times said: You don’t think it’s the defensive system we have and our inability to adjust? I have posted this a few times now. Burrow is 17 of 17, for like 180 yards and 3TD’s on opening drives vs us. Including the Hamlin game. That can’t be the players can it? We will see these games again in the postseason, which most of you view as super negative take but how can’t one land on that conclusion? We have seen the normal dose of them this year as we did last year. The flareups when we play respectable teams. We have given the Colts, Bengals, Chiefs x2 top 3 offensive performances on the year when they faced us in the postseason. So in the context of the entire season of games they played, top 3 vs us for playoff football. 4 different teams, 3 different years. Arguably the only competent defensive performances we have in the postseason were against Mason Rudolph and Skyler Thompson (despite allowing 30+ points we did play well). Then Lamar with Greg Roman in Gail force winds. We are 3-9 when we allow 30 or more points since 2020 and 15-21 when we allow more than 21. That is the split we will be living in for the playoffs. I know, I’m not a fan, I’m negative, I’m a horrible person and I kick puppies. It’s impossible for me to pin this all on the players and if that’s something that even could be done then somebody really needs to look at Beane (not saying that’s the case, just saying) Expand the proof, to me, from watching the rams loss was what the offenses had to do to score. the bills had allen run around, buy time, scramble and make guys miss, make hero throws and scan the field all day to see who might get open. we also had a few balls hit the ground on miscommunication. stafford just had to stand still as no one was near him, and throw (great throws for sure) to the open man, or the wr ready for a screen, or do the lil jet sweep thing, and it ate us up. this is also the case for all of the above mentioned playoff losses. allen plays on his head, the other team just executes the plays as written, and we fold on D. I suppose it is possible that the bills have simply made the worst roster decisions for years on d, and have signed slow small weak wood players to contracts they don't deserve, and that mcd has magically coached these crippled losers into at least statistically being a top flight D, but that's even worse and would mean we need the gm and hc to be replaced by people with some idea. mcd has this season and the playoffs to show he's got some way to improve. 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 10:12 PM, Joe Ferguson said: As long it's not the Super Bowl I'm okay with it. Expand kind of gotta win the playoff games that our coaching staff has historically screwed up. To actually get to the Super Bowl. Quote
uticaclub Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 On 12/10/2024 at 8:14 PM, 2003Contenders said: The Bills have been on the losing end of what could arguably be called the "game of the year" (regular season) each of the last 5 seasons, and the similarities are uncanny. All 5 games: -- Came against NFC teams. -- Josh played lights out in all 5 games. -- All of the games were decided by a single score -- All games essentially ended on the final possession. Indeed, 3 of those 5 games went into overtime. Let's look back.... 2020 Week 10: the infamous "Hail Murray" game. Josh passed for 284 yards and 2 TDs. He also rushed for 38 yards AND CAUGHT a 12-yards TD pass. 2021 Week 14: the overtime loss to the Tom Brady-led Bucs. After a slow start, the offense explodes in the 2nd half overcoming a 3-TD deficit. Josh passed for 308 yards and 2 TDs and tacked on 109 rushing yards along with a rushing TD. 2022 Week 10: the overtime loss to the Vikings thanks largely to insane catch made by J. Jefferson on a 4th-and-a-mile conversion. That was inexplicably followed by a fumbled exchange between Morse and Josh in the endzone, which the Vikings recovered. Josh was still able to tie the game with mere seconds left -- but ultimately lost in overtime. He passed for 330 yards and rushed for 84 in that game. 2023 Week 12: this was another overtime loss that was set up at the end of regulation where Elliott made good on a 60-yard field goal in the driving rain. Josh passed for 339 yards and 2 TDs, and added 81 yards rushing in that game. 2024 Week 14... Well, we all know about this one against the Rams. All of them exciting games that unfortunately went the wrong way. Josh racked up 400+ total yards in 4 of those 5 games -- and caught a TD pass in the other. Now, here is the GOOD news. In years 2020-2023 those games would all serve as the Bills final loss of the regular season, as the team would go undefeated the rest of the way! Here's hoping that this latest misstep follows suit! Expand We still have the Lions this week. That wasn’t an uncanny loss, our defense got smoked all game and poor clock management got us at the end. The other games had specific plays they were remembered for. Quote
Fleezoid Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 6:13 PM, Utah John said: Except for the Vikings game, where the fumble between Morse and Allen made the loss possible (but not inevitable), all those losses came about because the defense let us down. (And in the Vikings game the fourth and a mile completion to Jefferson happened only because our DB tried for an interception instead of just knocking the pass down.) Josh is the issue only in the sense that if he wasn't so excellent we wouldn't have been in the situation in the first place -- we would have lost by a mile instead of making it close. I can find it in my heart to forgive him, how about you? The other point to make is that we have one regular season abomination per year, and we hope we've already seen this year's. Expand Which leads to one playoff abomination per year. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 I acknowledge that the Bills do have some spectacularly memorable losses. They also have some great wins such as the Chiefs game this year.....it is not just great games end in losses all the time. I think we tend to remember those because they sting for Bills fans. Quote
Mister Defense Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 This post will continue to be as sharp and legitimate in the coming weeks, and months, and years, as it was on the day he posted it. Soo uncanny how the Bills blow literally almost every "game of the year." Year after year after year after.... Who could ever argue against it, that the Bills, when playing in what the media calls a "game of the year", have almost no chance to win? (Maybe just cut out "almost"?) And his choices for games of the year, such as the Hail Murray game, and Bucs game, though the Bills were @500 at the time, show just how objective, and astute, the OP is. No filtering his logic through hate and animosity as some tend to do on this board. Pure objectivity, just pointing out the obvious facts, facts no one can argue against. I cannot think of one game in the last five years under McClappy when the Bills won a so called "game of the year" in this span, including this year. They cannot win a big game under this coach if their lives depended on it. Time to have serious discussions now on whether the clap master will EVER win a big, important, "game of the year". Quote
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