Time for Hyde

[BuffaloBillyG]

Hyde couldn't cover anyone last year. He would have been an even bigger liability yesterday. 

 

Older and slower isn't what this defense needs 

[Billz4ever]

Honestly, unless this Dline starts to generate some pressure, it doesn't matter how good or bad the secondary is.

 

Good QBs are going to find the open man.

 

I hope the Dline has seen some of the callouts they've been getting in the media and start playing like they have something to prove, because quite frankly, they do.

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Honestly, unless this Dline starts to generate some pressure, it doesn't matter how good or bad the secondary is.

 

Good QBs are going to find the open man.

 

I hope the Dline has seen some of the callouts they've been getting in the media and start playing like they have something to prove, because quite frankly, they do.

My favorite part of today.. if any of these guys have any self respect, they heard the media (correctly) blaming them and McDermott for holding Allen back. 
 

It’s as if a national media dam broke today and everyone, all at once, realized how all time great he is, resulting in the display of utter disdain for our big game defense and coaching. 
 

Edited December 10 by SCBills

[EasternOHBillsFan]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

My favorite part of today.. if any of these guys have any self respect, they heard the media (correctly) blaming them and McDermott for holding Allen back. 
 

It’s as if a national media dam broke today and everyone, all at once, realized how all time great he is, resulting in the display of utter disdain for our big game defense and coaching. 
 

 

The Rams defense ACTUALLY GAVE UP MORE POINTS (42) THAN WE DID (37) and yet nobody talked about that at all! Disgusting.

[strive_for_five_guy]

33 minutes ago, SCBills said:

My favorite part of today.. if any of these guys have any self respect, they heard the media (correctly) blaming them and McDermott for holding Allen back. 
 

It’s as if a national media dam broke today and everyone, all at once, realized how all time great he is, resulting in the display of utter disdain for our big game defense and coaching. 
 

That’s what I’m saying, hopefully light a fire under their *** for the rest of the season.

[Kelly to Allen]

25 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

The Rams defense ACTUALLY GAVE UP MORE POINTS (42) THAN WE DID (37) and yet nobody talked about that at all! Disgusting.

It's a tough loss but it's terrifying for other teams. It's why I keep predicting we are going to blow ppl out in the playoffs or at the very least be way too much on offense for other teams 

 

Outside special teams 

 

Allen led the bills on the road to 42 pts in 21 min with two starters out on offense. That's with two drives right before and after halftime going 3 and out. Again that is terrifying for other AFC contenders 

 

Yeah ppl can call me a homer, I frickin love our chances 

 

Good luck to whoever we play in the playoffs 

Edited December 10 by Kelly to Allen

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

I agree keep Hyde off the field for now. 

I'd rather see Cine

[Kelly to Allen]

I speculate Hyde is hear to avoid a situation we had at linebacker last year.

 

If we have a injury at safety he's the insurance policy 

 

But who knows maybe he's starting in the playoffs. 

[ShakAttack]

There are 2 decisions that should be no brainers right now that you won’t see McDermott do:

 

1. Pull Milano for Dorian Williams (at least this week)

 

2. Start Elam over Ingram (maybe we do this one, but won’t be surprised if McD goes 0 for 2)

 

EDIT- Assuming Rasul is out

Edited December 10 by ShakAttack

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

3 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

I thought Hamlin played pretty bad .

Who didn’t have a bad game in the secondary? Maybe Benford? 
 

Honestly, I don’t think Johnson, Douglas, Rapp or Ingram made a single positive play all game that I can recall.

 

I  am having a hard time time believing that an up to speed Hyde would have made a bit of difference yesterday.

 

Now to the secondary’s defense the D-line and scheme did nothing to make Stafford uncomfortable. That is probably the biggest problem.

[AKC]

3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Yep. But I think everyone on the defence besides benford was horrible.

They asked Benford and Rasul to man up Nacua. Asking them to play man on an elite WR for most of a game leads to.... At the Stadium it is clear Milano barely lifts his bad arm and is handicapped using it for change of direction. If nothing else this was a game early for his return, probably 4. Not suggesting he is responsible for the overall caca D but I keyed on Hamlin for a couple plays early where he wildly missed his zone responsibilities and I just had to focus primarily elsewhere in order to not wholly ruin my game.

[Blackbeard]

10 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

I thought Hamlin played pretty bad .

He did in my opinion.
 

He played well compared, and I watched him make some nice tackles solo. 
 

People just like to hate him for some reason.  

Edited December 10 by Blackbeard

[Blackbeard]

7 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

It's a tough loss but it's terrifying for other teams. It's why I keep predicting we are going to blow ppl out in the playoffs or at the very least be way too much on offense for other teams 

 

Outside special teams 

 

Allen led the bills on the road to 42 pts in 21 min with two starters out on offense. That's with two drives right before and after halftime going 3 and out. Again that is terrifying for other AFC contenders 

 

Yeah ppl can call me a homer, I frickin love our chances 

 

Good luck to whoever we play in the playoffs 

This. 
 

we lost.  Our D played blah.  But that won’t happen every game.  This one was an anomaly, and it doesn’t help that Stafford, Nacua and Cupp were on fire.  
 

We have one of the best players, let alone our qb, to have ever played the game.  He, along with our offense, can and will our score most teams on any given day.  Allen is beyond generational.  

[GoBills!]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

As soon as I started defending him a couple weeks ago he’s been terrible. 
 

Thanks Damar!

I apologize for calling him the make a wish safety of the year. Since he had a few good games. Now he is back to his old way. And what’s worse is he continues to shy away from aggressive contact with the runner. Bad angles or going low to just trip them seems to be his move all else fails slow them down and wait for help. 
 

I would have thought Eliam would have switched to safety by now since he can’t seem to get the program at CB why not try at safety. 

[Imissthe90's]

We all knew in the off-season that we needed secondary. Hamlin is a good team liason but a terrible player.

[GunnerBill]

11 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

I understand that he's not likely to see actual playing time this weekend and it won't be until the home game vs. the Pats he's probably elevated.  That said, it's looking like Hyde came back to this team at a darn good time.  Our Safeties looked awful yesterday.  Rapp has been so good for most of the season that he gets some grace, but Hamlin was by far the worse player of the 2 yesterday and has been all year.  He's a good tackler, but just lacks the coverage ability and instincts.  You saw it on that deep completed pass (think it was called back) where he was torched.

 

I understand Hyde isn't 2021 Micah Hyde, but his instincts and intelligence are something that Hamlin--who is always just a step or 2 hesitant in coverage--just doesn't have.

 

If our D gets torched in the passing game on Sunday I think the passing of that torch from young to old is inevitable.  I'd just rather not see another shitshow like that.  Dude came back to Buffalo potentially to be the ultimate team guy as a mentor for the young guys.  Might be best for the young guys to watch him play for a bit.

 

 

 

And honestly... if not Hyde... put Cole Bishop back in there and let the athletic freak learn a little in some live action.

 

I actually think Hamlin was the better of the two on Sunday. He DEFINITELY tackled better. The touchdown run to the outside was on Rapp who was late to his assignment. And that kind of is the problem. Because Hamlin is just a limited player. I don't think it is hesitancy, it is just physical limitations to get to the spot on time. When Rapp plays pretty well, as he has for a chunk of the season, the safeties look just about passable. Once he has a poor game then you really are struggling. 

 

I will say I don't think the entire beatdown was explainable by poor safety play. I know you were not suggesting that necessarily, but just making absolutely clear for those reading this. 

[MJS]

11 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I am not sure I can point to one player on defense who played well.

Von Miller was probably the only one who played decently.

[Savage]

1 hour ago, Blackbeard said:

He did in my opinion.
 

He played well compared, and I watched him make some nice tackles solo. 
 

People just like to hate him for some reason.  

The guy makes his tackles.

 

the same can’t be said for a bunch of others.

 

[DCofNC]

Bishop needs to see the field, the one seed is gone, get the kid reps before the playoffs.  Best case he wows and takes the job, worst case, he’s got more action if somebody goes down.

[oldmanfan]

9 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Who didn’t have a bad game in the secondary? Maybe Benford? 
 

Honestly, I don’t think Johnson, Douglas, Rapp or Ingram made a single positive play all game that I can recall.

 

I  am having a hard time time believing that an up to speed Hyde would have made a bit of difference yesterday.

 

Now to the secondary’s defense the D-line and scheme did nothing to make Stafford uncomfortable. That is probably the biggest problem.

The secondary did not perform well.  But it is hard to do so when you are stuck in zone most of the day, and you have a QB who understands how to work against zone and had no pressure on him all day.  People have been talking about coaching failures since Sunday night; the coaching failure was stubbornly sticking to the D concepts when they clearly were not working.