Ok on to Detroit....

[Just Jack]

2 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

I think the Lions put in a new turf in 2023 which was the season after Von tore his Acl. 
 

I can’t speak to how good it is but I think it’s been better than that Thanksgiving game we remember. 

 

They did...

 

New playing surface coming to Lions' Ford Field for 2023 season

[Process]

If Bills and Steelers both go 3-1, with their loss being this week vs NFC team, anyone know who wins the tie breaker for the 2 seed?

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

If Bills and Steelers both go 3-1, with their loss being this week vs NFC team, anyone know who wins the tie breaker for the 2 seed?

 

Right now, both the Bills and Steelers are 10-3 with the Bills as the #2 seed and the Steelers as the #3 seed. Looks like the Bills have the tie breaker.

[Scott7975]

7 minutes ago, Process said:

If Bills and Steelers both go 3-1, with their loss being this week vs NFC team, anyone know who wins the tie breaker for the 2 seed?

 

According to playoff machine, Pittsburg.

3 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Right now, both the Bills and Steelers are 10-3 with the Bills as the #2 seed and the Steelers as the #3 seed. Looks like the Bills have the tie breaker.

 

I just ran it on playoff machine. Pittsburg would get it. It shows us in 2 seed right now but as soon as the rest of games playout the tie breakers change. Im guessing because we lost to Ravens and if things play out that way then Pitts would have swept them giving them the common games tie breaker. So if Pitts is gonna lose a game, you would want it to be against the Ravens. Otherwise if we both go 3-1 then we would be the 3rd seed.

Edited 11 hours ago by Scott7975

[Process]

2 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Right now, both the Bills and Steelers are 10-3 with the Bills as the #2 seed and the Steelers as the #3 seed. Looks like the Bills have the tie breaker.

That's what I was thinking, but I saw somewhere (can't find it), that the Bills don't control their destiny for the 2 seed, which doesn't make sense to me. 

 

How can they have the tie breaker now, but not have it if both teams go undefeated with 1 game vs the NFC?

[Scott7975]

Just now, Process said:

That's what I was thinking, but I saw somewhere (can't find it), that the Bills don't control their destiny for the 2 seed, which doesn't make sense to me. 

 

How can they have the tie breaker now, but not have it if both teams go undefeated with 1 game vs the NFC?

 

Common games against the Ravens. Pitts would have swept them. We lost.

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

According to playoff machine, Pittsburg.

 

I just ran it on playoff machine. Pittsburg would get it. It shows us in 2 seed right now but as soon as the rest of games playout the tie breakers change.

 

Even if the Bills win the 3 AFC games and only lose to Detroit. The Steelers have a tough schedule. The only game I think the Bills will lose is this week. I know divisional games are usually tough, but I can't see the Bills losing to the Pats (2) and Jets if they need the wins.

[Process]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Common games against the Ravens. Pitts would have swept them. We lost.

Ah gotcha, thanks!

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

According to playoff machine, Pittsburg.

 

I just ran it on playoff machine. Pittsburg would get it. It shows us in 2 seed right now but as soon as the rest of games playout the tie breakers change. Im guessing because we lost to Ravens and if things play out that way then Pitts would have swept them giving them the common games tie breaker. So if Pitts is gonna lose a game, you would want it to be against the Ravens. Otherwise if we both go 3-1 then we would be the 3rd seed.

 

Steelers schedule is brutal. I can't see them doing any better than 2-2.

 

Eagles, Chiefs, Ravens and Bengals.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 hours ago, Stretch said:

I’ve heard a lot about the entire Lions defense being hurt last week.  I haven’t heard anything about who/how many starters are expected back this week.  Does anyone know?

So Anzalone is out, Rodriguez is out for the season, of course Hutchinson.

 

Branch was limping around last week, but that was reported as cramps.

 

McNeil left the Packers game with a head injury.

 

DJ Reader was out with a hamstring maybe (Edit: Reader was a shoulder in the Thanksgiving game). 

 

Paschal was out. 
 

Taylor Decker was out last week.

 

You get the feeling all but the IR guys are going to be back.

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Straight Hucklebuck

[Ethan in Cleveland]

7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Common games against the Ravens. Pitts would have swept them. We lost.

Yeah I think this is correct.  

Since we are 0-1 against Ravens and at worst they would be 1-1, I think the Steelers win the tie breaker. 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Steelers schedule is brutal. I can't see them doing any better than 2-2.

 

Eagles, Chiefs, Ravens and Bengals.

 

 

Yeah if they go 3-1 against that schedule you gotta' tip your hat.   They would have earned the 2 seed.   

[Motorin']

I was really rooting for Green Bay to beat the Lines last week.

 

But it's really hard not to like these guys...

 

It looks like MCDC was going to kick the FG on 4th & 1. Goff was pissed bc he wanted to go for it. So Campbell changed his mind. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/7QL5bvUbcpqN3m8E/

 

[Big Turk]

45 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Yeah I think this is correct.  

Since we are 0-1 against Ravens and at worst they would be 1-1, I think the Steelers win the tie breaker. 

 

No the first tie break among teams not playing each other and not in the same division is record within the conference. Then it goes to record in common games.

 

If Bills lose to the Lions then win out, our conference record will be 10-2.

 

Steelers would have to lose to the Eagles and then win the other 3 games to match that at 10-2.

 

If their one loss is to an AFC team then we get the 2 seed in this scenario since their conference record would be 9-3.

 

Let's assume conference record is the same and it goes to common games.

 

Currently Steelers have a 2-1 record in common games with us beating the Ravens and Jets and losing to the Colts.

 

If we beat the Jets again and the Steelers lose to either the Chiefs or Ravens we would then have that tiebreaker as well since we would have a 4-1 record with our only loss being to the Ravens and they would at best be 3-2.

Edited 10 hours ago by Big Turk

[pennstate10]

12 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

This Lions turf is horrible. Might as well play in cement.

Is this still the case? I thought they got it fixed. 

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, Process said:

That's what I was thinking, but I saw somewhere (can't find it), that the Bills don't control their destiny for the 2 seed, which doesn't make sense to me. 

 

How can they have the tie breaker now, but not have it if both teams go undefeated with 1 game vs the NFC?

Wouldn't the Bills control their destiny if they win all the four remaining games ?

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Common games against the Ravens. Pitts would have swept them. We lost.

I thought Divisional record was the first tiebreaker if head to head doesn’t apply?

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Wouldn't the Bills control their destiny if they win all the four remaining games ?

 

Yes.

2 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

I thought Divisional record was the first tiebreaker if head to head doesn’t apply?

 

Only within the division.

Otherwise it's conference record as the first tie break, then common games.

Edited 10 hours ago by Big Turk

[RiotAct]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yes.

 

Only within the division.

Otherwise it's conference record as the first tie break, then common games.

ahh got it, thanks.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Common games against the Ravens. Pitts would have swept them. We lost.

 

See my post above. First tie break with them would be conference record and then if tied common games.

 

I break down both scenarios in that post, but effectively we would have a very good chance to win both those tie tie-breakers.

 

Their schedule is brutal the last 4 games, our is about as easy as you could get after Detroit.

Edited 9 hours ago by Big Turk