Ok on to Detroit....

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Oh yea, some of the voters are already saying it’s Josh’s “unless Saquon breaks the rushing record”.  Well, Saquon likely will break the record bc his last three games are against trash running defenses.  Which means if Josh is going to win MVP, he needs to not give any reasons otherwise these last four weeks.

 

They are simply looking for reasons to not give it to Josh like every year, what's new.

 

It's laughable that someone would feel Barkley is more valuable than Allen in ANY situation.

 

Allen had more EPA last week than Barkley has all year. Let that sink in when you think about how valuable each is to his team.

 

If Barkley breaks the record then great...he had an amazing individual accomplishment for his position. Which is still the least valuable offensive position in the NFL.  You want to give him OPOY great, go for it...

 

MVP? Never. It's absurd.

 

Edited December 13 by Big Turk

[BillsFan130]

5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

They are simply looking for reasons to not give it to Josh like every year, what's new.

 

It's laughable that someone would feel Barkley is more valuable than Allen in ANY situation.

 

Allen had more EPA last week than Barkley has all year. Let that sink in when you think about how valuable each is to his team.

 

If Barkley breaks the record then great...he had an amazing individual accomplishment for his position. Which is still the least valuable offensive position in the NFL.  You want to give him OPOY great, go for it...

 

MVP? Never. It's absurd.

 

Yep. Easiest way to think about it:

 

Eagles are what, 11-2? Take Saquon off that team and what are they, probably like 9- 4?

 

Bills are 10-3 and take Josh off that team and what are they.- Like 4- 9 or 5 -8?

[Big Turk]

20 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Yep. Easiest way to think about it:

 

Eagles are what, 11-2? Take Saquon off that team and what are they, probably like 9- 4?

 

Bills are 10-3 and take Josh off that team and what are they.- Like 4- 9 or 5 -8?

 

This is a team that was in the SB 2 years ago and was 10-0 at one point last year without Barkley on it.

[atlbillsfan1975]

All about game script, O needs to start fast and score early and often, don’t allow Detroit to dictate. 
 

I like to see how the D does in the first 15-20 snaps, if we can hold them to less than 7, it usually bodes well. 

[FLFan]

2 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

If Douglas, Rapp, and Hamlin all miss the game, thinking our starting secondary will be Benford, Elam, Johnson, Lewis & Bishop?

Probably true, but potentially disastrous.  

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said:

OP has a stay at home order in effect 

Ahh. Didn't know that. Thanks!

[BillsFan130]

37 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

This is a team that was in the SB 2 years ago and was 10-0 at one point last year without Barkley on it.

True. He definitely does enhance their offence especially with Hurts passing not being the same from that SB year to the end of last year , but ya definitely not an MVP as a running back 

[VaMilBill]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

They are simply looking for reasons to not give it to Josh like every year, what's new.

 

It's laughable that someone would feel Barkley is more valuable than Allen in ANY situation.

 

Allen had more EPA last week than Barkley has all year. Let that sink in when you think about how valuable each is to his team.

 

If Barkley breaks the record then great...he had an amazing individual accomplishment for his position. Which is still the least valuable offensive position in the NFL.  You want to give him OPOY great, go for it...

 

MVP? Never. It's absurd.

 

Totally agree. And I think one of the easiest ways to identify this is you are down four points with 2 minutes left in the game. Would you rather have Allen leading the comeback or have a Sequan? I think everyone knows that answer

[Ethan in Cleveland]

6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Benford is CB1

Am I loosing my mind or didn't Ingram play really well early in the season?
 

Yes...Ingram had 2 INT against Miami 
 

Give the dude a shot 

I wouldn't mind seeing Elam either.    

Ingram was playing the dime safety role because Cam Lewis was playing nickel CB when Taron was out.  He was not playing outside CB earlier in the season.

[zow2]

2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Yep. Easiest way to think about it:

 

Eagles are what, 11-2? Take Saquon off that team and what are they, probably like 9- 4?

 

Bills are 10-3 and take Josh off that team and what are they.- Like 4- 9 or 5 -8?

 

I tend to agree with this but does that mean Brandon Beane has accumulated such mediocre talent that the Bills would only be good for 5-6 wins?

[BillsFan130]

4 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

I tend to agree with this but does that mean Brandon Beane has accumulated such mediocre talent that the Bills would only be good for 5-6 wins?

I guess what I was trying to say is a backup came in for Josh.

 

Let's say an average QB like cousins came in, I would say bills would be like a 9 win team IMO

[zow2]

Looks like Hamburg and Orchard Park are the big winners of this Lake effect.  Some people need to dig these guys out on Friday so they can have a practice.  But at least they got some rest 

[Comebackkid]

5 hours ago, Casey D said:

The Bills luck continues unabated.😃

with the Lions being 12-1 fate thinks its a playoff game.

[Johnnycage46]

Really no idea what to think for this game. Lions got the extra 3 days off and are rolling. We had zero practice this week, seem suddenly banged up again, and our defensive performance last week didn't inspire confidence. 

 

If our O can get going early (unlike 1st half last week), and our D can at least hold up in the red zone on at least 2 or so drives for FG we might have a shot to keep it close.

 

Oh and NO special teams blunders please.

[DapperCam]

2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Really no idea what to think for this game. Lions got the extra 3 days off and are rolling. We had zero practice this week, seem suddenly banged up again, and our defensive performance last week didn't inspire confidence. 

 

If our O can get going early (unlike 1st half last week), and our D can at least hold up in the red zone on at least 2 or so drives for FG we might have a shot to keep it close.

 

Oh and NO special teams blunders please.

Sorry, best I can do is a shanked punt and missed extra point.

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, DapperCam said:

Sorry, best I can do is a shanked punt and missed extra point.

At this i will take it!

[Richard Noggin]

[Kelly to Allen]

5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

They are simply looking for reasons to not give it to Josh like every year, what's new.

 

It's laughable that someone would feel Barkley is more valuable than Allen in ANY situation.

 

Allen had more EPA last week than Barkley has all year. Let that sink in when you think about how valuable each is to his team.

 

If Barkley breaks the record then great...he had an amazing individual accomplishment for his position. Which is still the least valuable offensive position in the NFL.  You want to give him OPOY great, go for it...

 

MVP? Never. It's absurd.

 

 

If Allen doesn't get it, especially after what happened last year, it's pretty cruel and borderline bizarre 

 

You can't keep breaking all time all time production records. 

 

So 5 straight years of 40 tds or more and nobody has ever had more than 3?

 

 

Edited December 13 by Kelly to Allen

[Scott7975]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Im a fan of Grudens videos

 

 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said:

If our O can get going early (unlike 1st half last week), and our D can at least hold up in the red zone on at least 2 or so drives for FG we might have a shot to keep it close.

 

Oh and NO special teams blunders please.

We scored TD's on our first and third possession last week so we did get going early.  It was a horrible defensive effort and special team mistakes that sunk the Bills.