Ok on to Detroit....

[uninja]

11 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

The difference between their offense with a healthy OLine and Kupp/Nacua versus not is pretty staggering.

 

We happened to catch them at the wrong time when everyone was healthy on offense.

Also realize that they played an almost perfect game. That offense had to play it basically perfectly, executing key 3rd down after 3rd down, Kupp/Nucua made some INSANE catches all while extending drives, almost doubling TOP vs the Bills. 

Despite all that, the Bills almost came back and difference here was a blocked punt returned for a TD. So yeah I think our offense is better because to beat the Bills you have to play a perfect game. 

 

[Nineforty]

12 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

I don't trust McDermott when it comes to his defense because they've failed at the most crucial times against the top teams year after year.

 

He's sticking with guys like Hamlin and Ingram over Elam and Bishop when those guys just aren't good and the other guys at least have talent and have now had time in the system, so we should be giving them a shot over guys who aren't making a difference out there.

 

Continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result is simply not a smart decision, and it will likely result in his defense getting burned again in the playoffs because he did what he always does

At least you admit you don't trust his coaching.

 

I have had my own doubts about the Defense as a whole just like most fans. But my concerns are to be voiced in the offseason as they deal with personnel/scheme/philosophy. 

 

To just blindly assume your guys (elam, bishop) are better or give us a better chance because you say so is asinine. I trust the coach to make personnel decisions, ESPECIALLY in regards to the secondary. 

 

 Check. Your. Ego, Coach. 

 

 

[stuvian]

Our defense needs to make a statement to erase the memory of the debacle versus the Rams 🐏 

[KCNC]

Kitty Kat practice report

 

[BananaB]

42 minutes ago, Nineforty said:

 

I think you and others have it backwards and are blaming a coaching staff for a player's inability to rise above multiple players over years. Or you think he has more skill/ceiling due to flashes or draft position. Forget that. 

 

As others pointed out, we will play the best players. And yes, part of that involves scheme and consistency. 

 

You gotta really thread a fine needle by praising the coaching staff in regards to the secondary and saying there is trust. And then continuously question them. 

 

There is of course a time for debate and discourse. I just think this is one of those times, a specific kind of fan should check their ego/hubris and just shut up about Elam. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I thought Elam had a great camp this off-season. Pretty sure I heard that somewhere, actually pretty much every time I got updates. Now it’s over for him.  Go figure

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Strength of Victory is the 4th tiebreaker. Much better chance Bills win a tie at the end by Conference Record which is the 2nd tie breaker or Record vs. Common Opponents with is the 3rd tie breaker.

 

1st tie breaker is head to head which obviously doesn't apply since we haven't played them.

If the Steelers lose to the Eagles and then win out their strength of victory will be higher than ours and conference record would be the same.  That's assuming we lose to the Lions and sweep the rest of the season.  Our conference record would also be identical.  If they can beat the Ravens, Chiefs, and Bengals than they deserve the two seed anyways.

[Nineforty]

33 minutes ago, BananaB said:

I thought Elam had a great camp this off-season. Pretty sure I heard that somewhere, actually pretty much every time I got updates. Now it’s over for him.  Go figure

That was just the organization leaning on the media to try and help them flip Elam for a washing machine and a 2034 7th rd pick.

 

I kid. 

[finn]

37 minutes ago, KCNC said:

Kitty Kat practice report

 

Oh, please no DJ Reader. He destroyed the Bills when he played for Cincinnati. He and Melvin Ingram have been the bane of the Bills for years, it seems. 

[Herc11]

2 hours ago, Danger Mouse said:

 

we signed that guy. he was a bust.

 

Not quite. He was playing very well and had a major injury. Injury doesn't equate to bust.

[Scott7975]

6 hours ago, RiotAct said:

I thought Divisional record was the first tiebreaker if head to head doesn’t apply?

 

I believe that is only to break ties within the division. Out of division it is conference then common opponents.

5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

See my post above. First tie break with them would be conference record and then if tied common games.

 

I break down both scenarios in that post, but effectively we would have a very good chance to win both those tie tie-breakers.

 

Their schedule is brutal the last 4 games, our is about as easy as you could get after Detroit.

 

Yes, I understand but the poster I responded to asked for a specific scenario. They asked if we both lost this week against an NFC opponent then both won out the rest of the way. In that scenario Pitts has the tie breaker.

[BananaB]

8 minutes ago, Nineforty said:

That was just the organization leaning on the media to try and help them flip Elam for a washing machine and a 2034 7th rd pick.

 

I kid. 

He’s probably counting down the days until he’s cut now. He knows someone will pick him up and probably give him a better opportunity. Don’t surprise me that someone might be working harder in practice at this point, he’s probably thrown in the towel already. 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, BeastMaster said:

I don't trust McDermott when it comes to his defense because they've failed at the most crucial times against the top teams year after year.

 

He's sticking with guys like Hamlin and Ingram over Elam and Bishop when those guys just aren't good and the other guys at least have talent and have now had time in the system, so we should be giving them a shot over guys who aren't making a difference out there.

 

Continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result is simply not a smart decision, and it will likely result in his defense getting burned again in the playoffs because he did what he always does

 

Sorry but I dont care how you feel about Hamlin, he has done a far better job that Bishop. Bishop was a disaster when he played.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

34 minutes ago, finn said:

Oh, please no DJ Reader. He destroyed the Bills when he played for Cincinnati. He and Melvin Ingram have been the bane of the Bills for years, it seems. 

Melvin Ingram is terrible against every team, except the Bills! It’s amazing! 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I believe that is only to break ties within the division. Out of division it is conference then common opponents.

 

Yes, I understand but the poster I responded to asked for a specific scenario. They asked if we both lost this week against an NFC opponent then both won out the rest of the way. In that scenario Pitts has the tie breaker.

 

That may be right because conf record and common opponent record would be the same and their strength of victory would likely be higher 

Edited December 11 by Big Turk

[Drey]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

If the Steelers lose to the Eagles and then win out their strength of victory will be higher than ours and conference record would be the same.  That's assuming we lose to the Lions and sweep the rest of the season.

 

59 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Yes, I understand but the poster I responded to asked for a specific scenario. They asked if we both lost this week against an NFC opponent then both won out the rest of the way. In that scenario Pitts has the tie breaker.

 

The Steelers do not necessarily win the strength of victory tiebreaker. As I've said previously, if both teams lose this week and win the rest of their games then either the Bills or Steelers could win the strength of victory tiebreaker. It depends on how every other game goes in the next 4 weeks.

[Governor]

We’re going to get wrecked real bad.

3 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:

Douglas and Rapp out would be tough. Might need Elam, and… Hyde??

Both of them are out because of that collision? Gimme a break. That’s so weak.

[NewEra]

What’s a second favorite team?

[fergie's ire]

3 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

Dewayne Carter could be a boost to the D line, we sorely need that. 

You would think...and yet he was active for the Rams game and I don't think he played.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

33 minutes ago, Governor said:

We’re going to get wrecked real bad.

Both of them are out because of that collision? Gimme a break. That’s so weak.

Yeah I’ve watched that Douglas injury on the play and the rib shot definitely appears to be harder than Kupp “falling on” his knee.

 

Rapp was classic Rapp on that playing - just flying in at 100-mph, not even close to Kupp, shoulder right into Douglas ribs, and it’s right there that Douglas grimaces in pain. 

 

[Drey]

12 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

You would think...and yet he was active for the Rams game and I don't think he played.

He played 31% of the snaps. Just didn't do anything.