McDermott Post Game Presser

[dave mcbride]

3 hours ago, <bills4life> said:

Add 0 turnovers. The record is 245-0. Well until yesterday anyways. Couple that with 13 seconds.  McDermott is an enigma. Does virtually everything right as a coach on so many levels and then blows it all away in the final two minutes of close critical games. 

I do consider a blocked punt returned for a TD an actual turnover regardless of the NFL's statistical categories. It turned out to be the game-deciding play.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

I do consider a blocked punt returned for a TD an actual turnover regardless of the NFL's statistical categories. It turned out to be the game-deciding play.

 

Yea, I am not sure that stat quite proves anything given the ST score. Lots of real reasons to be mad with yesterday beyond that stat. 

[UKBillFan]

10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I do consider a blocked punt returned for a TD an actual turnover regardless of the NFL's statistical categories. It turned out to be the game-deciding play.

 

I wouldn't say it was a turnover by the offense, though, so the 6-0 ratio stands with them.

[gonzo1105]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea, I am not sure that stat quite proves anything given the ST score. Lots of real reasons to be mad with yesterday beyond that stat. 

Yea I know people will look at we lost by 2 and point to that but we were still punting it back to a team we didn’t stop all game and 2 our defense was absolutely horrendous. Hold them to a FG or two and we win pretty comfortably 

[eee1776]

There are a few things that bothered me after the LA game. These are my thoughts.

1. Babich should not be our DC. Learning on the job is not what is needed if we want to be SB bound..

2, Mcdee is loyal to a fault. 

3.We made only 1, maybe 2 stops the whole game. You could have left the defense on the bench the whole game, that would have saved time. LOL Really not making any adjustments the whole game through is puzzling to me.Zone was not working, and we also had no pressure on Stafford... the entire game except once.

The difference in the game was that Blocked Punt. Why Smiley was retained after last year is a puzzle to me, really? Way to many Special team mistakes 9 men really, remember last year 12 men. maybe Smiley can count.

Anyway, this my rant over a very puzzling game on defense. Somehow, we need to show up next week, and not waste a great performance by Josh and our offence.

[eee1776]

3 hours ago, Sweats said:

Did anyone even ask McD what his actual gameplan was cause that's what i would be interested in knowing.

There was no game plan we to spent t the week on raving about our game with SF. Victory Monday turned into Victory Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday Friday on Defense

[SoCal Deek]

25 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I do consider a blocked punt returned for a TD an actual turnover regardless of the NFL's statistical categories. It turned out to be the game-deciding play.

No it’s not. If that was true then a punt return for a touchdown would be a turnover. It also isn’t. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

12 minutes ago, eee1776 said:

There are a few things that bothered me after the LA game. These are my thoughts.

1. Babich should not be our DC. Learning on the job is not what is needed if we want to be SB bound..

2, Mcdee is loyal to a fault. 

3.We made only 1, maybe 2 stops the whole game. You could have left the defense on the bench the whole game, that would have saved time. LOL Really not making any adjustments the whole game through is puzzling to me.Zone was not working, and we also had no pressure on Stafford... the entire game except once.

The difference in the game was that Blocked Punt. Why Smiley was retained after last year is a puzzle to me, really? Way to many Special team mistakes 9 men really, remember last year 12 men. maybe Smiley can count.

Anyway, this my rant over a very puzzling game on defense. Somehow, we need to show up next week, and not waste a great performance by Josh and our offence.

The All-22 will reveal this answers to this question. 

 

Watching the game once, it looked like in the second half the Bills brought their corners up, played Rapp closer to the box, utilized Cam Lewis and Dime some, and tried some A-gap blitzes. 

 

When you look at the second half, the Rams couldn't run the ball, and it really was Nucua and Kupp over and over, an occasional Atwell catch. 

 

Stafford threw for ~320. Nucua was ~1/2 of that, and Kupp was ~100 yards. 

 

The constant was ZERO defensive line pressure. 

 

Edited December 9 by Straight Hucklebuck

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

No it’s not. If that was true then a punt return for a touchdown would be a turnover. It also isn’t. 

Correct

[Alphadawg7]

12 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

The sneak/timeout is beyond inexcusable.

 

You have to pass it there.

If you do decide to sneak for some reason, you need a play ready to go if you don't get the TD

 

How many years now and this guy still cannot figure out game management in crucial times. It's not even complicated stuff that he continues to mess up 

 

Yes, Tom Brady was absolutely correct commentating during the game that there is no option but to throw 3 times there, all to the endzone.  Burning a timeout resigns you to a 3% chance onside kick attempt.  I get the thought process of your best play, and there is no higher conversion play in our playbook than an Allen sneak to get the 1 yard.  But, as high of a conversion it is, the times you don't get it and have to burn a timeout completely change the complexity of the game and take all other options off the table.

 

Even if you don't think the Bills can stop them from getting a first down, you could always STILL kick the onside and try and get it, but if you fail, still have your 3 timouts to try and get the ball back.  Burning a timeout makes the onside attempt the deciding factor in the game with no recourse.  

[Sestak4ever]

The defense did cost us the game, however McDermott made some bad choices where we had a chance to pull this out. On the goal line, instead of a qb push, it would have been best to roll Allen out where he could either throw for a td, run it in for a td or throw it away. Any of those would have saved that time out.

[RyanC883]

12 hours ago, NoSaint said:

So you think they are aggressive enough to go for it on 4th and 7 if you decline but play prevent defense after pushing them back?

 

similar issues with the sneak/timeout with play call mismatching game management strategy 

 

Sounds like he isn’t synced with his coordinators when making those calls. Not great for the game manager and play callers to be on different pages repeatedly.

 

also sounds like looking for another scapegoat.  He is a terrible late game leader.  Push them back, then prevent (burning time when you need it), then shorter 4th down.  Just mind-numming bungles from this guy too often.  

[Jerome007]

12 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

Ok, I hated the sneak call but McD says, "We'll go back and look at that play, I promsie you that." That kinda sounds like someone else made the call. He obviously is the final word but if he give his coordinators play-calling duties, perhaps the sneak wasn't his idea.

Regardless, let's say because of the pile up mess it takes time to get up and realign. It's still better to waste 15 seconds than call time out! He blew it. Hopefully he learns from this...

[CincyBillsFan]

21 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yes, Tom Brady was absolutely correct commentating during the game that there is no option but to throw 3 times there, all to the endzone.  Burning a timeout resigns you to a 3% chance onside kick attempt.  I get the thought process of your best play, and there is no higher conversion play in our playbook than an Allen sneak to get the 1 yard.  But, as high of a conversion it is, the times you don't get it and have to burn a timeout completely change the complexity of the game and take all other options off the table.

 

Even if you don't think the Bills can stop them from getting a first down, you could always STILL kick the onside and try and get it, but if you fail, still have your 3 timouts to try and get the ball back.  Burning a timeout makes the onside attempt the deciding factor in the game with no recourse.  

And on any of those three passes from the one Allen could run it if he sees an opening.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

4 hours ago, Sweats said:

Did anyone even ask McD what his actual gameplan was cause that's what i would be interested in knowing.

Let them gash us with the running game and play passive zone behind it, expect the offense to score 45.

[Jerome007]

15 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Let them gash us with the running game and play passive zone behind it, expect the offense to score 45.

Let's give McD and Babish their due: they have been GREAT at 2nd half adjustments. Not this time...

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, <bills4life> said:

It’s not that they lose. It’s how they lose.  A blow out loss hurts much less, than games we have a real chance to win. Any time a coach costs you a real chance to win it’s a major let down. How many times do we have to see it.  Smh. 

I've counted at least 20x McDermott has made one of these moronic decisions as a Bills HC.  How many more must be tolerated for the sake of culture. The only culture & process I see is stupidity from our coaches, starting at the top.

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, <bills4life> said:

It’s not about losing the number 1 seed. It’s about not learning from past mistakes. Come playoff time once again the bills will lose in the same fashion. All while our qb plays one of the best games in nfl history. That is the doom and gloom my friend. For the love of Christ how many times have we seen this movie.

Exactly...nobody cares anymore about the 1 seed. The real elephant in the room is fans like myself terrified seeing stupid coaching about to enter another playoffs that Josh got us to.

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I wouldn't say it was a turnover by the offense, though, so the 6-0 ratio stands with them.

It’s not any more of a turnover than a punt return for a TD. The ball is going to the opponent anyway as soon as it hits the foot. 

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Exactly...nobody cares anymore about the 1 seed. The real elephant in the room is fans like myself terrified seeing stupid coaching about to enter another playoffs that Josh got us to.

Terrified ! Lol … let’s be real about this. The Bills can win in the playoffs because they have Josh Allen. Period. It’s always going to come down to the matchup. This year will be no different. Their best chance was always going to be by securing the #1 seed. As Yogi Berra would say “ that ain’t rocket surgery”! Losing a shot at the 1 seed is a far more frustrating development to anyone paying attention than just now realizing the Bills defense isn’t an elite unit. 

[BobbyC81]

12 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

It’s not any more of a turnover than a punt return for a TD. The ball is going to the opponent anyway as soon as it hits the foot. 

Terrified ! Lol … let’s be real about this. The Bills can win in the playoffs because they have Josh Allen. Period. It’s always going to come down to the matchup. This year will be no different. Their best chance was always going to be by securing the #1 seed. As Yogi Berra would say “ that ain’t rocket surgery”! Losing a shot at the 1 seed is a far more frustrating development to anyone paying attention than just now realizing the Bills defense isn’t an elite unit. 

Overall, this defense is undersized and lacks team speed.   We saw what Baltimore did to this defense.  Tough aggressive teams like Philly and Pittsburgh could dominate them.