PoundingDog Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Sounds to me he's resigned to defeat when Rams scored last TD. A lot of the end game decision discussions from him is like either options (on-side or stop them 3 times with timeouts) are not good which leads me to believe that he did not think the Bills would stop the Rams even if we had 3 timeouts. He pretty much said he believed McVay would go for the 4th down on the one where Bills declined the holding penalty. Also interesting that he admitted the team's "urgency" is not there right from the start. 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) So you think they are aggressive enough to go for it on 4th and 7 if you decline but play prevent defense after pushing them back? similar issues with the sneak/timeout with play call mismatching game management strategy Sounds like he isn’t synced with his coordinators when making those calls. Not great for the game manager and play callers to be on different pages repeatedly. Edited December 9 by NoSaint 4 9 2 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted December 9 Posted December 9 “You have two options - neither is great “ But one option is better than the other … 5 7 3 Quote
PoundingDog Posted December 9 Author Posted December 9 He said "give me the best play at 1 yard line," and they believed Allen sneaking is the best play. They need to develop a best passing play at 1 yard line. 3 9 2 3 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) The sneak/timeout is beyond inexcusable. You have to pass it there. If you do decide to sneak for some reason, you need a play ready to go if you don't get the TD How many years now and this guy still cannot figure out game management in crucial times. It's not even complicated stuff that he continues to mess up Edited December 9 by BillsFan130 4 1 10 1 3 2 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) 35 minutes ago, PoundingDog said: Sounds to me he's resigned to defeat when Rams scored last TD. A lot of the end game decision discussions from him is like either options (on-side or stop them 3 times with timeouts) are not good which leads me to believe that he did not think the Bills would stop the Rams even if we had 3 timeouts. He pretty much said he believed McVay would go for the 4th down on the one where Bills declined the holding penalty. Also interesting that he admitted the team's "urgency" is not there right from the start. Allen said the same thing about the urgency. Seems like they were a little too full of themselves after clinching the division last week. 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: The sneak/timeout is beyond inexcusable. You have to pass it there. If you do decide to sneak for some reason, you need a play ready to go if you don't get the TD How many years now and this guy still cannot figure out game management in crucial times. It's not even complicated stuff Some claim Allen audibled into that which is why McD was giving him an earful on the sidelines after since a pass was called. Edited December 9 by Big Turk 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Allen said the same thing about the urgency. Seems like they were a little too full of themselves after clinching the division last week. Some claim Allen audibled into that which is why McD was giving him an earful on the sidelines after since a pass was called. Didn't Josh say he didn't audible out of it? I thought i saw someone quote that from him but not 100 percent sure Quote
NoSaint Posted December 9 Posted December 9 2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Didn't Josh say he didn't audible out of it? I thought i saw someone quote that from him but not 100 percent sure another thread quoted him as saying he ran the call as best he was capable I haven’t heard it with my ears but someone posted it 1 Quote
zow2 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Allen said the same thing about the urgency. Seems like they were a little too full of themselves after clinching the division last week. We talked about this last week (on the board). The Rams have an elite coach and Super Bowl pedigree. This was a Must-win game for LA vs a team who wanted to win but certainly not a must. As you alluded they were still basking in the division title, Tshirts, caps and snow angels. The Bills still had a chance, i think they can wash this game and learn something. 3 2 2 Quote
KeLLy1278 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 The McDIMWIT presser. What difference does it make what he has to say. What’s he gunna say? “Hey, get off my back, we all make mistakes!!” Actually that would be kinda refreshing from a coach. 1 1 3 4 Quote
SCBills Posted December 9 Posted December 9 11 minutes ago, PoundingDog said: He said "give me the best play at 1 yard line," and they believed Allen sneaking is the best play. They need to develop a best passing play at 1 yard line. Insane that this is a conversation. Honestly, I can’t believe we have to discuss this. 2 2 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted December 9 Posted December 9 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: We talked about this last week (on the board). The Rams have an elite coach and Super Bowl pedigree. This was a Must-win game for LA vs a team who wanted to win but certainly not a must. As you alluded they were still basking in the division title, Tshirts, caps and snow angels. The Bills still had a chance, i think they can wash this game and learn something. Yeah, it's frustrating but kinda like human nature to have a lot down after a goal was reached. Unfortunately that stupid loss to Houston where they attempted to hand the Bills the game repeatedly but we refused to take it may end up costing us the #1 seed. 4 1 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted December 9 Posted December 9 15 minutes ago, PoundingDog said: He said "give me the best play at 1 yard line," and they believed Allen sneaking is the best play. They need to develop a best passing play at 1 yard line. I remember a certain passing play for Seattle in the Super Bowl a number of years back. Maybe not quite at the 1, but we know how it turned out. Allen is pretty much money on these sneak type plays. Just didn’t get in that time. I didn’t hate the strategy. 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yeah, it's frustrating but kinda like human nature to have a lot down after a goal was reached. Unfortunately that stupid loss to Houston where they attempted to hand the Bills the game repeatedly but we refused to take it may end up costing us the #1 seed. Crazy to think that a 42 point day on the road by any Bills team would be called a let down. 3 Quote
Nephilim17 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Ok, I hated the sneak call but McD says, "We'll go back and look at that play, I promsie you that." That kinda sounds like someone else made the call. He obviously is the final word but if he give his coordinators play-calling duties, perhaps the sneak wasn't his idea. Not exonerating McD but perhaps he's not a fan and defending his staff here. Not sure. I just never want to see it again in that scenario and repeating it is fireable. Josh Allen is not just an elite runner but an elite thrower. Have pass plays for the 1-yard line with time running out. 1 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I remember a certain passing play for Seattle in the Super Bowl a number of years back. Maybe not quite at the 1, but we know how it turned out. Allen is pretty much money on these sneak type plays. Just didn’t get in that time. I didn’t hate the strategy. Crazy to think that a 42 point day on the road by any Bills team would be called a let down. Definitely D was...they never showed up. Not a single Bills player made any sort of needed play the entire day on D. Rams were 11/15 on 3rd down today after having the worst third down percentage in the NFL the previous 3 games. Edited December 9 by Big Turk 6 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted December 9 Posted December 9 34 minutes ago, PoundingDog said: He said "give me the best play at 1 yard line," and they believed Allen sneaking is the best play. They need to develop a best passing play at 1 yard line. Has Brady ever heard of this thing called a naked bootleg. Or dive into the line throw to your TE? 2 Quote
JimmyNoodles Posted December 9 Posted December 9 The offense scored 42 points. It seems like they had urgency. Is he only talking about “his” unit, the defense? 5 Quote
fasteddie Posted December 9 Posted December 9 I can't complain about the offense when they score 42 points. However, I am watching NBC and the d linemen hustle and try hard all of the time. The Bills' d linemen look like they have played 10 quarters without substitutions. It's disgusting to watch. 2 Quote
Willyville Guy Posted December 9 Posted December 9 26 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I remember a certain passing play for Seattle in the Super Bowl a number of years back. Maybe not quite at the 1, but we know how it turned out. Allen is pretty much money on these sneak type plays. Just didn’t get in that time. I didn’t hate the strategy. Crazy to think that a 42 point day on the road by any Bills team would be called a let down. I was thinking about the Seattle SB play too. The defense and the blocked punt were the problems today, not pounding it in with 17. 3 1 2 Quote
Bills Bud Posted December 9 Posted December 9 You throw the ball, any good coach would know that. 1 Quote
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