Matt Milano - rusty or washed?

[RyanC883]

looks timid, afraid of injury, or more likely, unable to diagnose game play speed with 14 months off.  

 

I'd have Williams out there 1/2 the game.  We can't have Milano playing like this in the playoffs.  If Milano can't get it back by then, we should roll with Williams.  

27 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

He gets lost. He was not helping vs the Rams.

I did think he would play more than Milano at this point while we ramp up Milano’s snaps. I also thought he would have a role as a blitzer.

 

The Rams actually only had 3.3 yards per carry. Kyren Williams only 3 yards per carry. 
 

Im not sure how anyone thinks Williams improves our chances of winning this game? He’s not good in coverage.

 

 

agree that peak Williams v. mid-range Milano is in Milano's favor.  However, Milano was not great in coverage or run yesterday.  Williams likely shuts down more of the run plays than Milano at this point.  Milano is getting shacked out of his boots by RBs, etc.  Again, it's a game speed issue for him, which he hopefully gets back in time for the playoffs.  

[Beast]

1 hour ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Taron johnson had multiple man coverage snaps against Puka and got worked.  It's tough... The guy is really good, and he played really really well.  

 

Right. I said he was awful yesterday but ***** happens and he will bounce back.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Watched Milano close in the 2nd half. He’s hobbled. There was one play a player fell into his leg and he had a hard time getting up. Stumbled a little getting up. Another play he looked awkward running in space.

 

Bills must see this as well. Rams were getting lineman on him all the time. He couldn’t disengage.

 

 

[LarryMadman]

Most here don't understand how severe his knee injury was, he will be lucky to become and avg LB once back at full strength.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Just now, LarryMadman said:

Most here don't understand how severe his knee injury was, he will be lucky to become and avg LB once back at full strength.

Again wasn't this a bone break with reports that all his knee ligaments were intact? 

 

I think the bigger issue is he is playing with one arm out there, with a restriction brace on leaving it in an L. 

17 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Watched Milano close in the 2nd half. He’s hobbled. There was one play a player fell into his leg and he had a hard time getting up. Stumbled a little getting up. Another play he looked awkward running in space.

 

Bills must see this as well. Rams were getting lineman on him all the time. He couldn’t disengage.

 

 

Yeah it's not his fault. 

 

The Bills training staff and coaches have just stepped on the gas immediately with him. 

 

Two weeks of practice and he's just taking 100% of non-Dime snaps now. 

[hondo in seattle]

As someone said previously in another thread, the 90s Bills laid some eggs during the season and still reached the SB.  That's what I'm hoping for.  But that defensive performance - combined with the D's performance against the Ravens - makes me worry.  

 

Also, that 90s roster had its fair of jags but at the top of the roster was Bruce, Biscuit, etc.  We don't have anyone like that now. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Watched Milano close in the 2nd half. He’s hobbled. There was one play a player fell into his leg and he had a hard time getting up. Stumbled a little getting up. Another play he looked awkward running in space.

 

Bills must see this as well. Rams were getting lineman on him all the time. He couldn’t disengage.

Where was Bernard yesterday?

 

He was invisible. 

[34-78-83]

15 hours ago, Simon said:

I think he doesn't quite trust his reads and decision-making yet and it's making him more hesitant than anything is physically.

While he's still better than Williams, they really need to him to find his A-game in the next month.

I'd agree with all this except I do believe that Williams by mid year was playing better than MM currently is from an overall perspective. Hopefully MM finds it soon. If not, we do have a pretty good insurance policy in Williams at least, as compared to last year's options like Klein, etc.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Where was Bernard yesterday?

 

He was invisible. 

Bernard made some plays in the run game. He was around the ball.

Milano made one play that looked like his old self. But change of direction isn’t there yet.

 

 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

I don’t get why there is not a rotation with Dorian, especially on running downs. 

[Royale with Cheese]

29 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Most here don't understand how severe his knee injury was, he will be lucky to become and avg LB once back at full strength.

It wasn’t a knee injury.  It was a clean break.

[LarryMadman]

7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

It wasn’t a knee injury.  It was a clean break.

Tibia plateau fracture is totally different than a "clean break" of the tibia.

[Mister Defense]

16 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

It's his second game back after pretty much 2 years of not playing. Let's give him a little bit before calling him washed

 

No, no, no you just misunderstand...

 

He is NOT "calling him washed", just throwing that out there in the ether, that idea, after Milano's two games.

 

Just another objective, even handed post from a non hater.

 

Just asking some questions, of course, nothing ultra negative there at all...

 

 

[stlbills13]

Dorian wasn't playing poorly. I'm just surprised Milano is essentially in a full-time role from day 1. That's the only thing I don't totally understand. 

[Mat68]

He is swimming in it right now.  I know Milano has clout and played at a high level in the past. Williams in his 2 years has been allowed a fraction of the runway they are affording Milano.  If Williams had consecutive series at Milanos current level he would be benched.  It’s fair asking how much more time is allowed.  Detroit?  

Edited December 9, 2024 by Mat68

[Mat68]

16 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

No, no, no you just misunderstand...

 

He is NOT "calling him washed", just throwing that out there in the ether, that idea, after Milano's two games.

 

Just another objective, even handed post from a non hater.

 

Just asking some questions, of course, nothing ultra negative there at all...

 

 

Miller, Poyer, and White have all had similar results from serious injuries.  I think it’s fair to ask.  Im not a film guy.  He just looks off.  Either mentally he is a beat off or physically he is.  I think thats the question.  

[North Buffalo]

Let both and Williams get reps... gonna need both... make them both do wind sprints and whatever linebackers do... grass drills etc

[BuffaloMatt]

Dorian Williams did not get one rep! Even IF Milano was playing well, Williams was leading team in tackles. SMH messing with the D's communication etc. 

[GaryPinC]

56 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Miller, Poyer, and White have all had similar results from serious injuries.  I think it’s fair to ask.  Im not a film guy.  He just looks off.  Either mentally he is a beat off or physically he is.  I think thats the question.  

Probably both.  Definitely in the second half they had intermittently switched him and Bernard where Milano was lined up on the right side of the D which I never remember him doing before injury.  Milano looked slow to read and react IMO, the game looked too fast for him mentally and also physically.  Got fooled by the O misdirections and out of position or took bad angles.  I'm voting rust and definitely want to get him up to speed for the playoffs but not at the complete expense of Williams.  Cycle them, Milano may not return enough where we need Williams top of his game in the playoffs.

[Kelly to Allen]

I do think McDermott needs to think about a rotation of Elam at cb and Dorian Williams at linebacker to at least upgrade the athletic ability and speed.

 

I do think Milano will be a lot better in January